Several Mod Problems

[Kelranox]

Feel free to delete my other threads pertaining to mod issues. I'll list out all of my mod issues here.

 

1. Deadly Reflex 5 - I was finally able to set every key so as to actually use shield bash/dodge. However, I haven't been able to cut someone's wrist/throat, behead or decapitate them. I was also prompted with a box that read "OVERRIDE KICK SCRIPT" during combat. Unsure as to what caused that. I'm using the Steam version of Oblivion and have OBSE 18.

 

2. Gore - I downloaded this mod just a bit earlier but I haven't even noticed a difference between the blood seen in vanilla and the blood seen here.

 

3. Natural Environments - I downloaded this yesterday, put the files in the correct folders, created the invalidation file and the environments look the same.

 

4. Mausoleum - Attempted to install this earlier and I saw the beggar standing at the waterfront, however only her mouth and the top of her head were visible. Also, when I attempted to load my game I was immediately met with a text box full of indistinguishable characters. I was able to progress but it was a bit weird. The dialogue options with said beggar displayed same unknown characters.

 

5. Alternative Start - I can get everything working, except of course for the key. How exactly are you expected to open the door in the sewers without the key?

 

That's about it so far. I realize this is a bit much and I do apologize for my inability to immediately understand mod placement.

[Tomlong54210]

It sounds like you do not have archive invalidation setup. If you use OBMM, set BSA redirection in Utilities > Archive invalidation. Do you have your game patched to the latest version? If you use the GOTY edition and have disc 2 installed, your game is patched. Otherwise, you need to install the latest official patch.

 

Latest Official Patch - http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patches.htm

 

We can help you with load ordering, no problem. Have your load order would help with that, but you should try to fix it yourself first too. Post it after you've taken a stab at it, with some extra help of course. ;)

 

Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- Read this, grab BOSS, run it on your LO, and then use the template on this page to place any unknowns in appropriate locations.

Post Your Load Order - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo

 

If you do not use OBMM, there are other ways to go about taking care of archive invalidation. If you do use it, did you install DR's OMOD version? That might help. Make sure you have the DR hotfix installed as well.

[Kelranox]

Considering I had to re-download Oblivion the other day, I'm sure I have the latest patch.

 

Here's my load order: (X denotes a checkmark)

 

1. Oblivion.esm X

 

2. Horse Combat Master.esm

 

3. No psychic guards v 1.2.esp X

 

4. No psychic guards harder.esp

 

5. Realistic Force Low.esp

 

6. Realistic Force Medium

 

7. Enhanced Water v2.0 X

 

8. Arthur natural Weather.esp X

 

9. Knights.esp X

 

10. ShiveringIsles.esp X

 

11. KT_CustomRaceFix.esp X

 

12. _Ren_BeautyPack.esp X

 

13. Ring of console.esp X

 

14. Alternative Start.esp X

 

15. RealisticForceHigh.esp X

 

16. Natural_Vegetation.esp X

 

17. Natural_Habitat.esp X

 

18. Midas Spells.esp X

 

19. Deadly Reflex 5 Timed Block 250% damage.esp

 

20. Mystery of Mausoleum

 

21. Deadly Reflex 5 Timed Block no damage

 

22. Deadly Reflex 5 Timed Block 150% damage X

 

23. Deadly Reflex Combat.esp

[Tomlong54210]

Considering I had to re-download Oblivion the other day, I'm sure I have the latest patch.

 

Here's my load order: (X denotes a checkmark)

 

1. Oblivion.esm X

 

2. Horse Combat Master.esm

 

3. No psychic guards v 1.2.esp X

 

4. No psychic guards harder.esp

 

5. Realistic Force Low.esp

 

6. Realistic Force Medium

 

7. Enhanced Water v2.0 X

 

8. Arthur natural Weather.esp X

 

9. Knights.esp X

 

10. ShiveringIsles.esp X

 

11. KT_CustomRaceFix.esp X

 

12. _Ren_BeautyPack.esp X

 

13. Ring of console.esp X

 

14. Alternative Start.esp X

 

15. RealisticForceHigh.esp X

 

16. Natural_Vegetation.esp X

 

17. Natural_Habitat.esp X

 

18. Midas Spells.esp X

 

19. Deadly Reflex 5 Timed Block 250% damage.esp

 

20. Mystery of Mausoleum

 

21. Deadly Reflex 5 Timed Block no damage

 

22. Deadly Reflex 5 Timed Block 150% damage X

 

23. Deadly Reflex Combat.esp

What do you mean by redownloaded? Only the GOTY edition of Oblivion comes patched to the latest version, so I guess this means your game is not patched. Please, patch your game. (The link to the latest patch is in my previous post.) Also, seeing your actual load order would be nice as well.

 

Post your Load Order - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo

 

Do you have the DR 5 hotfix? It is at the bottom of the DR Nexus Downloads page, that of the regular version and the OMOD. You also have some outdated mods installed.

 

Popular Outdated Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods <-- remove them or trade up

 

You need to choose ONE No Psychic Guards plugin, and you also need to sort that load order. Did you read all of my last post?

[Kelranox]

When attempting to install the 1.2.0416 patch I was met with this error "Old File was not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match."

 

I moved the patch to the Oblivion folder but the error wasn't fixed.

 

Oblivion.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Arthur_Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Knights.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceLow.esp

MidasSpells.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

 

Fixed Load Order. I have Horse Combat.esm in there as well but it isn't checked.

[Tomlong54210]

I really need to know what you meant by redownload... Are you using the GOTY edition, the Steam version, the retail version or the D2D version?

[Kelranox]

I really need to know what you meant by redownload... Are you using the GOTY edition, the Steam version, the retail version or the D2D version?

 

I downloaded it a while back but I had some problem with the mods and files, so I deleted it and redownloaded it recently through Steam. Assuming since I have Shivering Isles and KoTN it's the GoTY edition.

[Tomlong54210]

I really need to know what you meant by redownload... Are you using the GOTY edition, the Steam version, the retail version or the D2D version?

 

I downloaded it a while back but I had some problem with the mods and files, so I deleted it and redownloaded it recently through Steam. Assuming since I have Shivering Isles and KoTN it's the GoTY edition.

Cool, your game is patched then. Did you look into archive invalidation yet? Are you using OBMM? You need DR's ESM active though. It is required. Did you see that Load Ordering page I linked. Run BOSS on your LO. Also, remove the Race Fix and replace it with the UOP.

 

 

Edit: I got sidetracked, lots of tabs and windows open, sorry about the delayed reply.

 

Stabilization Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods <-- Links to the UOP at the top.

 

It seems that you should just go ahead and check all of your installed plugins. Is there a reason why you unchecked them in the first place?

 

Edit: I have lost my train of though, but I will catch up here when you reply. :(

[Kelranox]

I really need to know what you meant by redownload... Are you using the GOTY edition, the Steam version, the retail version or the D2D version?

 

I downloaded it a while back but I had some problem with the mods and files, so I deleted it and redownloaded it recently through Steam. Assuming since I have Shivering Isles and KoTN it's the GoTY edition.

Cool, your game is patched then. Did you look into archive invalidation yet? Are you using OBMM? You need DR's ESM active though. It is required. Did you see that Load Ordering page I linked. Run BOSS on your LO. Also, remove the Race Fix and replace it with the UOP.

 

 

Edit: I got sidetracked, lots of tabs and windows open, sorry about the delayed reply.

 

Stabilization Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods <-- Links to the UOP at the top.

 

It seems that you should just go ahead and check all of your installed plugins. Is there a reason why you unchecked them in the first place?

 

I ran the Archive Invalidation tool and did smart check, however I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do after that. That came with Natural Environments, yes? I removed that one as instructed and attempted to use All Natural as a replacement but Wrye Bash is too confusing >.>

 

Ran the UOP patch.

 

I replaced my Deadly Reflex Combat.esp with the hotfix you linked.

 

I'm using OBMM, yes. I ran BOSS on my LO. However, when I run BOSS even after having installed the UOP and the DR Hot fix it still tells me that I need to use them as if I haven't done anything.

 

I removed the custom race fix but nothing is sitting in it's place. However, even though I put it in backup BOSS shows that it's still there.

 

Current Load Order (I tried running Oblivion with this Load Order and it crashed, so evidently I did something wrong with trying to fix my Load Order to the point in which the game won't even start)

 

Oblivion.esm X

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp X

DLCShiveringIsles.esp X

Knights.esp X

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp X

RealisticForceLow.esp X

MidasSpells.esp X

No psychic guards v1.2.esp X

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp X

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp X

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp X

 

No matter how many mods I remove, the game still crashes. This was done after patching Oblivion, as I see it that's supposed to fix errors >.>

[Tomlong54210]

You need the Horse Combat Master ESM file installed. Please post your load order via the method I linked above. Use Wrye Bash to post your LO. Removing plugins will not necessarily fix anything. I do not understand half of what you are doing. What is the archive invalidation tool you are using? You only need OBMM for archive invalidation. Get rid of the other thing, and set BSA redirection in OBMM. What do you mean by "when I run BOSS even after having installed the UOP and the DR Hot fix it still tells me that I need to use them as if I haven't done anything." The BOSS Log gives general guidelines. It includes comments for each plugin, but that does not mean all of them are applicable. Please post your load order, via Wrye Bash, and your BOSS Log here.