Kelranox Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 You need the Horse Combat Master ESM file installed. Please post your load order via the method I linked above. Use Wrye Bash to post your LO. Removing plugins will not necessarily fix anything. I do not understand half of what you are doing. What is the archive invalidation tool you are using? You only need OBMM for archive invalidation. Get rid of the other thing, and set BSA redirection in OBMM. What do you mean by "when I run BOSS even after having installed the UOP and the DR Hot fix it still tells me that I need to use them as if I haven't done anything." The BOSS Log gives general guidelines. It includes comments for each plugin, but that does not mean all of them are applicable. Please post your load order, via Wrye Bash, and your BOSS Log here. I do have Horse Combat ESM, I just don't have it checked in the LO. I tried using Wrye Bash and I had no idea how to actually get the program working. I clicked the Wrye Bash loader and it changed the properties of a few files in the same folder as it, nothing more. Get rid of what other thing? BSA redirection in OBMM? No idea how to do that. The only thing I've done with OBMM is rearrange my LO, set up Darnified UI and use import/export. I mean, I ran the UOP and the Hotfix you linked me to and it didn't seem to fix anything, considering I can't even get Oblivion to start as opposed to before I posted this thread when I could play the game. I looked at the txt after having run BOSS -after- having used the UOP and Hotfix, however the customracefix was still there and the replacement for it wasn't, unless of course an ESP was supposed to be in it's place. Now I have too many files scattered around, this is why I uninstalled Oblivion in the first place >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 You need to activate (check) the ESM. Installed and activated are very different, and that plugin needs to be activated. I said get rid of the Archive Invalidation thing you are using? You said you ran an archive invalidation check. I also told you how to set BSA redirection in OBMM in an earlier post. Set it in Utilities > Archive invalidation. Forgot Bash for now. You do not need it at the moment. Let's stick to the basics for now. You do not seem to much at all about load orders. Remove the custom race fix. The fix is included in the UOP. I just want you to follow my instructions and stop doing for a little while. You only need to install mods through OBMM. There should not be any mods scattered anywhere... Please, just do the following. 1) Remove the custom race fix. Uninstall it. 2) Set BSA redirection in OBMM. Select it in Utilities > Archive invalidation. 3) Activate (put check in the box next to) all of your plugins. 4) Run BOSS 5) Post your load order here. Import/Export > view load order. Copy the entire contents of the file into your post. 6) Post your BOSS log here. Copy the entire contents of the text file into your post. 7) Your comments are confusing. IF you have another archive invalidation tool installed, remove it. The problem right now is that you are confused, and your replies are confusing me. There is no reason to uninstall Oblivion. Just, please, be a little more patient and do not assume random things. Ask questions, instead of doing. That's why I am here, to answer your questions. Please explain this to me. I am trying to understand some of your confusion. "I looked at the txt after having run BOSS -after- having used the UOP and Hotfix, however the customracefix was still there and the replacement for it wasn't, unless of course an ESP was supposed to be in it's place." I assume "the txt" you are referring to is the BOSS Log. Is that right? By "used" you mean installed, right? I do not know what the rest of that statement, the part about the custom race fix, means at all. That mod should be uninstalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelranox Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 The Archive tool I have is ACV v1.1.0. I deleted the CustomRaceFix.esp and set the Archive Invalidation through the Utilities in OBMM. (I didn't put any X marks because I had everything selected) Oblivion.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmDLCShiveringIsles.espKnights.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espRealisticForceLow.espMidasSpells.espNo psychic guards v1.2.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp ------------------------------------Recognised and re-ordered mod files:------------------------------------ Oblivion.esm . Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 902 $, $Date: 2010-05-06 00:21:38 -0700 (Thu, 06 May 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $ HorseCombatMaster.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Knights.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}} RealisticForceLow.esp MidasSpells.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp . Note: See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues. _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics}} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Okay, you need the Unofficial Oblivion Patch installed. Install it. Did you download the full UOP and the supplemental? You need at least the full version. I hope you did not uninstall the DR hotfix too. You need that installed as well. For future reference, there is no need for X marks. Your LO does not include deactivated plugins. The BOSS log is not exactly your LO, so it will contain the list of all installed plugins, ordered. Take care of the things I've mentioned above, and try to launch the game. I have a few more suggestions, but I am still trying to gauge where you are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelranox Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 Okay, you need the Unofficial Oblivion Patch installed. Install it. Did you download the full UOP and the supplemental? You need at least the full version. I hope you did not uninstall the DR hotfix too. You need that installed as well. For future reference, there is no need for X marks. Your LO does not include deactivated plugins. The BOSS log is not exactly your LO, so it will contain the list of all installed plugins, ordered. Take care of the things I've mentioned above, and try to launch the game. I have a few more suggestions, but I am still trying to gauge where you are at. I'll post my LO for every adjustment, sound good? As you can see I installed the UOP and the DR Hot Fix, I'm assuming the Hot Fix.esp simply replaces the DR Combat.esp? At any rate, the game still crashes but below is my LO. Oblivion.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espDLCShiveringIsles.espKnights.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espRealisticForceLow.espMidasSpells.espNo psychic guards v1.2.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 No. If the plugin replaced another plugin, it would have the same name (or have an OMOD script.) The Read Me would tell you to replace a plugin if that were necessary. All right now... Have you tried regenerating your Oblivion.ini, and have you uninstalled and deleted that AVC thing? Do you have the latest version of OBSE installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelranox Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 No. If the plugin replaced another plugin, it would have the same name (or have an OMOD script.) The Read Me would tell you to replace a plugin if that were necessary. All right now... Have you tried regenerating your Oblivion.ini, and have you uninstalled and deleted that AVC thing? Do you have the latest version of OBSE installed? If you're referring to the Invalidation value, it's 1. As I've come to understand, 1 means it's fine, yes? However, the game still crashes. I deleted the AVC Program and yes, I have the latest OBSE installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigrets Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Aside from your other problems which are being dealt with, just a response to this question: 4. Mausoleum - Attempted to install this earlier and I saw the beggar standing at the waterfront, however only her mouth and the top of her head were visible. Also, when I attempted to load my game I was immediately met with a text box full of indistinguishable characters. I was able to progress but it was a bit weird. The dialogue options with said beggar displayed same unknown characters. Did you read the mod description and or comments (preferably for more info). The quest for this mod is in Chinese and because you don't have the Chinese language dictionary installed the characters appear as symbols. There is an English translation being done I believe which I'm waiting for before I play it. This mod has other problems including a rumours dialogue issue that needs to be fixed. Otherwise if you have missing bodies etc you need to check it's installed correctly as many people seem to have played through without too many issues except the language. However, I suggest you follow Tomlong54210's advice to sort your other issues before trying this mod again. Also check the mods requirements. It will not run without them. From the description:Requirements==========Oblivion v1.2.416Official DLC Shivering IslesOblivion Script Extender v0018b6 or laterOBSE pluggy 125b or laterOBSE -Elys- Universal Silent Voice 0.93 or laterHGEC/EC/MANGA or other compatible body modelAt least 1.1GB of free hard-disk space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelranox Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 Aside from your other problems which are being dealt with, just a response to this question: 4. Mausoleum - Attempted to install this earlier and I saw the beggar standing at the waterfront, however only her mouth and the top of her head were visible. Also, when I attempted to load my game I was immediately met with a text box full of indistinguishable characters. I was able to progress but it was a bit weird. The dialogue options with said beggar displayed same unknown characters. Did you read the mod description and or comments (preferably for more info). The quest for this mod is in Chinese and because you don't have the Chinese language dictionary installed the characters appear as symbols. There is an English translation being done I believe which I'm waiting for before I play it. This mod has other problems including a rumours dialogue issue that needs to be fixed. Otherwise if you have missing bodies etc you need to check it's installed correctly as many people seem to have played through without too many issues except the language. However, I suggest you follow Tomlong54210's advice to sort your other issues before trying this mod again. Also check the mods requirements. It will not run without them. From the description:Requirements==========Oblivion v1.2.416Official DLC Shivering IslesOblivion Script Extender v0018b6 or laterOBSE pluggy 125b or laterOBSE -Elys- Universal Silent Voice 0.93 or laterHGEC/EC/MANGA or other compatible body modelAt least 1.1GB of free hard-disk space Well, for the time being I'll leave MoM on the shelf. I still can't get the game to actually start, so that needs to be fixed first >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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