spoiler Favourite ending

[Thandal]

Just one question what dialogue did you have with Alistair in the throne room, did the programming handle it all OK?

 

Interstingly, Big Al's query and my reply options worked beautifully. (Essentially, he's clueless. The plot flags seemed to have been the same as for a male PC who completed the ritual.)

 

The disconcerting moment came when Anora asked "How did my Father die?" I felt like saying, "Better than the first time, when you had to clean your dress afterwards." Sadly, that option didn't appear! :teehee:

[brokenergy]

My favourite ending is a sad ending, with my male city elf trying to convince Morrigan to stay even though it was fruitless. She wont let him wondering though and tells him her true feelings which hurts them both very deeply. He slays the Archdemon and even though the celebrations proceed, the Warden packs his things and along with his dog, start his search for the woman he loves dearly, keep a promise he made to her, that he would always protect her. Loghain is killed for his treatment to the elves and Alistair and Anora are packed off together to bring prosperity to a broken nation.

[ell46]

Just one question what dialogue did you have with Alistair in the throne room, did the programming handle it all OK?

 

Interstingly, Big Al's query and my reply options worked beautifully. (Essentially, he's clueless. The plot flags seemed to have been the same as for a male PC who completed the ritual.)

 

The disconcerting moment came when Anora asked "How did my Father die?" I felt like saying, "Better than the first time, when you had to clean your dress afterwards." Sadly, that option didn't appear! :teehee:

 

:woot: brilliant, I think someone should write a mod for that reply to Anora, that sounds like something I would say in those circumstances.

 

Any chance you can give more details of how to achieve that ending?

[Thandal]

Any chance you can give more details of how to achieve that ending?

 

Here ya' go...

 

Posted 12 April 2010 - 03:29 AM in "General DA:O Discussions - Don't have to have sex with Morrigan?" (minor points and typos in that post edited for clarity and correctness)

 

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[Major SPOILER]

 

Ok, so this may or may not be what you're looking for...

 

Using one well-known, (and built-in) cheat, it *is* possible to reject Morrigan and her ritual completely and still defeat the Archdemon without sacificing anyone about whom you care (including yourself!)

 

The following steps are the "minimal intervention" way. (Obviously one could achieve the same final result while employing the... ummmm... help, earlier.)

 

1. Execute Loghain at the conclusion of the Landsmeet.

 

2. When time to choose your final crew, leave Alistair to guard the Gates at Denerim.

 

3. Save just outside the roof-top door that leads to the "Last Battle". (You do that anyway, right?)

 

4. Exit and re-load DA:O with the command console option.

 

5. At any point from here on, (until the pentultimate moment) use "runscript zz_addparty Loghain" to add Anora's father (now evidently resurrected and Joined) to your group.

 

NOTE: Since you have never had him on your team before, you will NOT be able to adjust his tactics to ensure he heals himself when necessary. And since you won't be able to "tell" him to use potions either, be sure you have a healer with you and that they focus on him. The whole point is to have both of you around at the end.

 

6. At the appropriate moment he requests being allowed to strike the killing blow. A request which you are more than happy to grant.

 

And there you go! There is one "Post Coronation" bit of dialogue that's off. Anora asks how her father met his end even though she witnessed the Landsmeet. (Alistair isn't sure how/why you survived either, but in that case one of the offered responses works very well for the situation.)

 

Anyway, Morrigan denied, Blight defeated, everyone important still alive, and Alistair still your friend/lover/consort (whatever status you had pursued/achieved earler.)

 

Have Fun!

 

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As I said before, it was very satisifying to have Loghain die again -- especially since *this* time it actually helped!

[ell46]

Thank you for finding this for me, not sure how I could have missed it. I'm not far from the end now so I'm going to give it a go :biggrin: can't wait to see Morrigan high tail it out of there when I decline her offer, shame I can't spend the night with Alistair instead, but you can't have it all.

[Thandal]

Thank you for finding this for me, not sure how I could have missed it.

 

No problem at all (epecially since it was my post in the first place...) :whistling:

 

 

Enjoy!

[ell46]

:laugh: I know I've just been hunting and there it was right at the top, still don't understand how I missed it :wacko: I've been ill what can I say :yucky:

 

This must the worst character I've ever come across in a game, only 30 years to live, no children, talk the love of your life into having sex and impregnating another woman so you/he can live, depending on race can't marry and become queen, not even any talk of marriage if you don't make him King, all in all you don't really have much going for you, what ever happened to happy endings :sad: I wonder if the story/script writer was on prozac at the time?

[Thandal]

... all in all you don't really have much going for you, what ever happened to happy endings :sad:

 

I guess that's why it's billed as a "Dark" adventure, eh? I actually liked the moral ambiguity involved in any ending other than "The Utlimate Sacrifice". Well, perhaps "appreciated" is a better word.

 

I agree with you (and the myriad of others who point out) that once you've crossed the romance (as opposed to friends-with-benefits) threshold with her, *AS WRITTEN*, Morrigan is either a) lying when she says she loves you, b) one sick/damaged... soul, (self-edited from my inital choice of "biotch") or c) both!

 

But I prefer to think that the writers just got caught a little behind deadline. By that I mean that, as my absolutely favorite NPC, I refuse to let my final impressions of her be bitter. The way I (choose to) see things, she just doesn't do a very good job of justifying her decisions.

 

If one is NOT head-over-tea-kettle about her, then her "You will never see me again" is a lot easier to swallow. But if totally smitten, (and the feeling is genuinely reciprocated, in her own "I'm not sure how to do this..." way) then there'd better be a damn sight more than "That's the way Flemmeth and I decided it would be back before I even met you!" to explain her flight.

 

It's not that I *need* a happy ending. The bittersweet has it's own attraction. Emotionally, I had my strongest reaction of five playthroughs when I *did* complete her ritual, and got hit by the epilogue slide.

 

... alone ... mountains ... snow ... with child ... regret

 

My problem is that her "reasons" don't support the drastic nature of her action. (Of course it occurs to me that I'd have been even *less* satisified if the writers had tried the Laura Petrie approach: "Well if you don't know, then I'm certainly not going to tell you!")

 

Soooooo, much like when I read a long novel with too many foreign names and I create a mental ideogram for "that collection of letters" without even trying to pronounce them, then substitute that -gram whenever I encounter the name again. I substitute "a reason that makes sense in her (perhaps warped, perhaps more accurate) view of the world" for whatever nonsense she's spouting about "the way things have to be." Kinda' like the way I just stop her mouth with a kiss when she's nattering about "a normal women doesn't react this way". Only in reverse.

 

Pathetic, huh?

[ell46]

Real life has enough bittersweet for me these past few years, I don't need it in games as well, I play to escape all that.

 

I never analyse the characters, their life stories don't really interest me to the point where I think 'Oh dear that is terrible etc' I take as I find and I like Morrigan I'm not saying I would trust her but then I'm cynical by nature and pragmatic to boot, but I like her and the epilogue about the snow etc didn't move me at all, it's what she wanted, she'll survive. I agree I think that some of the story wasn't given as much thought as it should have been, probably because they tried to cram too much into it, perhaps too many endings. I only know what I've read from people that have romanced her and a lot seem very upset with her, so I can't really comment but imagine it would be hurtful, like when Alistair dumps you.

 

:laugh: I do the same thing when reading impossible sounding names etc, substitute my own as close to the original, it makes life a lot easier.

 

Not pathetic, I'm sure a lot of people that have other romances could be considered pathetic, like when I get sick of fighting I take Alistair off for a walk and look at the view, it's nice down by the water in the Dalish camp and the battlements up at Wardens Peak, quiet and peaceful, they should put a benches there so we can sit down and admire the view or pack a tartan blanket to sit on, now there's an idea for an impossible mod :laugh:

[SpellAndShield]

Real life has enough bittersweet for me these past few years, I don't need it in games as well, I play to escape all that.

 

I never analyse the characters, their life stories don't really interest me to the point where I think 'Oh dear that is terrible etc' I take as I find and I like Morrigan I'm not saying I would trust her but then I'm cynical by nature and pragmatic to boot, but I like her and the epilogue about the snow etc didn't move me at all, it's what she wanted, she'll survive. I agree I think that some of the story wasn't given as much thought as it should have been, probably because they tried to cram too much into it, perhaps too many endings. I only know what I've read from people that have romanced her and a lot seem very upset with her, so I can't really comment but imagine it would be hurtful, like when Alistair dumps you.

 

:laugh: I do the same thing when reading impossible sounding names etc, substitute my own as close to the original, it makes life a lot easier.

 

Not pathetic, I'm sure a lot of people that have other romances could be considered pathetic, like when I get sick of fighting I take Alistair off for a walk and look at the view, it's nice down by the water in the Dalish camp and the battlements up at Wardens Peak, quiet and peaceful, they should put a benches there so we can sit down and admire the view or pack a tartan blanket to sit on, now there's an idea for an impossible mod :laugh:

 

Alistair is a racist male without a father for dumping non-human females!