crash on startup

[PlasticOnoMan]

i had been playing oblivion for about a month, maybe a little less, and, though i'm sure i encountered one or two, i can't readily recall a single bug in that time- beside a few ctds and almost always crashing on exit.

then it refused to start at all, crashing on start up (with the standard oblivion has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution) before the bethesda logo even appeared. i first unchecked the mods i'd recently installed (cm partners, companion sound sets and living economy) and when that didn't work, i unchecked all the mods and attempted to start the game. this didn't work either.

i've now uninstalled oblivion a couple times, completely deleting all the folders, ini, savegames and entries in the registry before reinstalling (though copying esps and meshes+textures from mods to a separate folder, then replacing) and it still eventually crashes on startup.

i can replace the ini with the first ini the reinstalled game created and the game will start. however it will still eventually crash, prompting me to again replace the ini with the original copy. then it will start- - - -only to crash yet again. i've also noticed that the game is increasingly buggy.

 

any thoughts?

[XxShinra]

are you useing OBSE? you should download it if you don't, because some mods require it... http://obse.silverlock.org/ you copy the contents of OBSE and paste it in your Oblivion data folder then you open Oblivion with OBSE loader. If you already have OBSE could it be Vista related? try to open as administrator. What I did was just right click Oblivion then click properties and run in compatibility 4 windows 2000, XP, or whatever um... otherwise open startmenu/useraccounts/turn user account control on or off/ check the box to turn it off. ... mine is off too I just noticed, I used to just run as administrator or something, then I turned UAC off. Try to run as Admin or just get rid of the internet security ( UAC ) all together I would, later! :biggrin:

[Tomlong54210]

Start over.

 

Installing Oblivion <-- Step #1. Keep following the "Next Step" until you finish.

[bben46]

When you do start over - DO NOT add your old saves mods etc back in until after the vanilla game works properly. Before copying any mods, saves etc back, make sure you are patched to the latest patch. Then, after the fully patched vanilla game works. Make a backup of it. outside of the Oblivion folder make a new folder for backups. COPY - do not move the data folder there. then COPY, do not move the save games folder there also. Now install OBMM & OBSE and any other utility programs you use and test to be sure they are working before adding any mods.

 

Now whenever you have a problem, you can rename the existing data folder and save game folder (olddata, oldsaves are what I use) then COPY - again DO NOT MOVE the backed up data folder and saved games folder back into the game and you will be back at vanilla without reinstalling.

 

If you are having a problem that is caused by a mod, don't copy the mods back. redownload (unless you kept the original download) and install them one at a time, testing each one as you go.

[PlasticOnoMan]

thanks for the advice everyone.

 

i do have obse and uac is deactivted. i thought that was the only vista-oblivion issue, but maybe not- i guess i'll run a couple searches.

 

as for mods- i disabled all the mods i'd installed in the week before the problem started, and most other newer mods. could an older mod have suddenly started to conflict? also, are there specific mods that would have an effect on the ini?

having to constantly replace it absolutely means something's editing or corrupting it, right?

 

i'm running the unoffical oblivion patch right now, maybe that could fix something...? if the problem persists, i'll uninstall\reinstall again....

[d181sp1]

Is your game patched to the latest version?

[PlasticOnoMan]

Is your game patched to the latest version?

 

yep.

[Anniria]

you said you had a bunch of old mods you don't use anymore? I'm trying out completely uninstalling/deleting all my Oblivion files, defragging and cleaning the drive, then reinstalling, will let you know if it works as normal Vanilla. If it does then that's what I would suggest, then only download mods that you are using NOW. Personally I'm cutting back on alot of the mods I WAS using to, hopefully, not only let the game run, but run smoother.

[Tomlong54210]

thanks for the advice everyone.

 

i do have obse and uac is deactivted. i thought that was the only vista-oblivion issue, but maybe not- i guess i'll run a couple searches.

 

as for mods- i disabled all the mods i'd installed in the week before the problem started, and most other newer mods. could an older mod have suddenly started to conflict? also, are there specific mods that would have an effect on the ini?

having to constantly replace it absolutely means something's editing or corrupting it, right?

 

i'm running the unoffical oblivion patch right now, maybe that could fix something...? if the problem persists, i'll uninstall\reinstall again....

That's too general. What kind of effects are you talking about? Different mods can affect different parts of the INI, and there is no way to guess what type of changes you have had trouble with.

[PlasticOnoMan]

That's too general. What kind of effects are you talking about? Different mods can affect different parts of the INI, and there is no way to guess what type of changes you have had trouble with.

 

 

what i meant to ask was if it is only optimization utilities like the oblivion stutter remover that affect the ini- if these types of mods are the only ones that could corrupt the ini or edit it in such a way that would prevent the game from starting. i am using three such utilities, but had been using them pretty much since i first installed the game.