Better Cities trouble

[Kelranox]

--Update-- I'm running the Steam version of Oblivion. I'm also not running any other mods which would be incompatible with Better Cities.

 

 

So, I've recently downloaded the proper files for Better Cities. I've extracted all of them to their proper locations, at least I believe I have. After starting up Oblivion, the game immediately exits itself. It isn't a proper crash, considering Windows doesn't search for a problem. Oblivion runs fine when the mods aren't selected in the load order, however. Do note that all other mods are working fine, except for Alternative start which doesn't prompt me with the dream sequence text. I only noticed this after I installed Deadly Reflex. I did install the HotFix patch, so I don't believe that was the problem.

 

BOSS Log

 

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Recognised and re-ordered mod files:

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Oblivion.esm

. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

 

Better Cities Resources.esm

 

HorseCombatMaster.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.

. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

Better Cities .esp

. Note: Dummy file to load Better Cities .BSA

 

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

 

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

 

LordKain_Adash_World.esp

. Note: German mod.

 

Knights.esp

 

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations}}

 

RealisticForceLow.esp

 

RealisticForceMedium.esp

 

RealisticForceHigh.esp

 

MidasSpells.esp

 

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP.

 

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

. Note: See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues.

 

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair}} and deactivate.

 

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics}}

 

Better Cities - Skingrad City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

 

Better Cities - Bravil City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

 

Better Cities - Anvil City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities ANVIL.esp

 

Better Cities - Chorrol City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities CHORROL.esp

 

Better Cities - Cheydinhal City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

 

Better Cities - Leyawiin City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

 

Better Cities - Bruma City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities BRUMA.esp

 

Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp

 

Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp

 

Better Cities IC Arena.esp

 

Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp

 

Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp

 

Better Cities IC Market.esp

 

Better Cities IC Prison.esp

 

Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp

 

Better Cities IC Temple.esp

 

Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp

 

Better Imperial City.esp

 

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

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Load Order

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Oblivion.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

LordKain_Adash_World.esp

Knights.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceHigh.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

[Tomlong54210]

I'm confused. Is the bottom thing the thing that is supposed to be working? You need to remove one of those Ren's modules. The 'only hairs' version is simply being overwritten by the full version and not doing anything, so that one seems to be the ideal candidate for removal...though that depends on what you'd meant to do, I guess...

 

As for alternative start, it can conflict with quest mods, and BC does have a few quests related to functionality, among other things, so temporarily disabling alternate start mods can help various quests work properly. I cannot say that that applies to BC, but it does apply to various vanilla and unofficial mod quests. Bear that in mind for the future, I guess.

 

Is there a reason why you opted not to install the full version of BC or BC IC? Also, did you download both parts of the resources OMOD? BC's only requirement is SI, and you have that, so something is probably missing. If you do not have the latest version of BC, I recommend upgrading to it too. Oh... That's the problem... You have the patch for the Full version, and the patch is missing a master (since you do not have the full version installed). You should install BC with OBMM. Then this oversight would've been avoided.

 

Reinstall BC, preferably with OBMM, or fix the plugin arrangement, and take care of Ren's mod as well.

 

 

Edit: Troubleshooting - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting <-- There's a nice checklist here that may be helpful in the future.

[Kelranox]

I'm confused. Is the bottom thing the thing that is supposed to be working? You need to remove one of those Ren's modules. The 'only hairs' version is simply being overwritten by the full version and not doing anything, so that one seems to be the ideal candidate for removal...though that depends on what you'd meant to do, I guess...

 

As for alternative start, it can conflict with quest mods, and BC does have a few quests related to functionality, among other things, so temporarily disabling alternate start mods can help various quests work properly. I cannot say that that applies to BC, but it does apply to various vanilla and unofficial mod quests. Bear that in mind for the future, I guess.

 

Is there a reason why you opted not to install the full version of BC or BC IC? Also, did you download both parts of the resources OMOD? BC's only requirement is SI, and you have that, so something is probably missing. If you do not have the latest version of BC, I recommend upgrading to it too. Oh... That's the problem... You have the patch for the Full version, and the patch is missing a master (since you do not have the full version installed). You should install BC with OBMM. Then this oversight would've been avoided.

 

Reinstall BC, preferably with OBMM, or fix the plugin arrangement, and take care of Ren's mod as well.

 

I was under the impression that I -did- download the full version of BC. I have 4-5-2b, and both resource parts. As well, I downloaded the file available in the mirror on the Nexus page. I didn't use files that required mods of which I don't have, so I don't necessarily understand what you mean. I deleted the hair add on for Ren.

 

 

Edit: Troubleshooting - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting <-- There's a nice checklist here that may be helpful in the future.

[Tomlong54210]

...? Oh... Is this your reply?

 

I was under the impression that I -did- download the full version of BC. I have 4-5-2b, and both resource parts. As well, I downloaded the file available in the mirror on the Nexus page. I didn't use files that required mods of which I don't have, so I don't necessarily understand what you mean. I deleted the hair add on for Ren.

 

 

Edit: You are not missing any mod. The problem is that BC is not installed correctly. Oblivion is crashing over a missing master it seems. To check the resources situation, do you have 6 BSAs for BC in your Data folder? Reinstall BC this time, and just choose the full options or something. Post your LO for me again, using OBMM. (Import/Export > View load order) The BOSS log is unnecessary.

[Kelranox]

I counted six BSA's: Better Cities - Textures EV, Better Cities - Textures, Better Cities - Sounds, Better Cities - Shipyard, Better Cities - Meshes, Better Cities - Bravil Docks

 

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OBMM Order

 

Oblivion.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Better Cities .esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Growlfs Animated Hair.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

LordKain_Adash_World.esp

Servant of the Dawn.esp

Knights.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceHigh.esp

MidasSpells.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Streamline 2.1.esp

[Tomlong54210]

Your mod list is longer... Update Streamline. If you do not know what you need to install, look at my comments on the page's comments thread.

 

 

Edit: After you've installed the latest version, check out this page: SL.ini Tweaks.

[Kelranox]

Your mod list is longer... Update Streamline. If you do not know what you need to install, look at my comments on the page's comments thread.

 

 

Edit: After you've installed the latest version, check out this page: SL.ini Tweaks.

 

Yeah, I uninstalled Oblivion and reinstalled it. Then added mod after mod, tested them after each individual add with OBMM and BOSS. So far, everything is working. I didn't update Streamline because I saw that the latest version is a beta and I didn't know if it was buggy or not. Is it stable then?

 

Better Cities actually works now! However, whenever I exit Oblivion normally (and it isn't even that big of a problem, it's just annoying to have to exit via CTRL+Alt+Delete) it crashes and states that Windows is searching for a solution to the problem, causing the computer to freeze. However, everything is remedied with CTRL+Alt+Delete. It's simply a minor annoyance. I assume I'd have to move my save files somewhere else?

[Tomlong54210]

Streamline's Beta is more stable than the version your using and more stable than a bunch of non-beta mods. Beta in Oblivion modding is not the same. That Beta has been out for a long, long time. In order to remedy the crash on exit, install Fast Exit 2 (but I guess you've been avoiding updating OBSE because of beta too...)

 

Stabilization Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods <-- Install the latest OBSE and Fast Exit 2

 

Oblivion.ini Tweaks - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/oblivion <-- check these out for stability too, at least the first two groups

[coyote_player93]

hnpø

Edited June 14, 2016 by coyote_player93

[Tomlong54210]

use boss, then the load order will become perfect, if that doesent work either, and, it may be your oblivion is jumping out of the game is because you need cobl, atleast my oblivion dident work whitout cobl:P

Look at the first post, haha...

 

 

Edit: The OP has not installed one mod that requires COBL, but I think that COBL is a great mod to have as well. However, would you happen to know whether or not COBL is OMOD-Ready?