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I've tried to install a bunch of mods using ObMM - I also have latest version of OBSE (0018). I have fresh installed the game on Windows 7 64 home, and have no saved games. I cannot play the game - when I try to create a new game it cuts to desktop every time.

 

I am using BOSS, and according to that I have no conflicts. I will post the BOSS report below. I will also post my active load order, since BOSS shows all esp/esm files even if they aren't active.

 

However, if I use ObMM to look for conflicts, it shows conflicts with almost all of my mods. See this screen shot:

 

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5ce7fe1c1f.jpg

 

Most of the time the ObMM says the conflict is with the Unofficial Oblivion Patch or OOO. But I know that this can't be right, because I know many people are using all of these mods with OOO and UOP. What on earth is going on?

 

I am not mod-savy enough to know what mod might be the problem. Any help?

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ObMM load order:

 

Oblivion.esm

Natural Interiors.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Artifacts.esm

bookplacing.esm

TNR - ALL RACES FINAL.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural Interiors - Cities.esp

Natural Interiors - NE Compatibility.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

RustyItems.esp

Tegeals Extra Robes.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp

ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

Artifacts.esp

Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

sunk ships.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

HoarfrostCastle.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

movablebodies.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_MMM.esp

SM_COBL.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

Obicos_Ingredient_Increaser_v11-5131.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp

Kobu's Personality Enhancer.esp

Kobu's 2x Slower Skills Mod.esp

Dark Dungeons.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

LightSpellWhiteDimmer.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

SaddleBag.esp

Benirus Lair.esp

Magik.esp

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ok, so I turned off every single mod so that only the core game esm is on, and it still cuts to desktop. Windows 7 conflict?

 

I know other people are running this game with Win 7, this is nonsense.

 

Well, this is interesting. I clean installed Oblivion and only applied the official patch 1.2, and it now won't even boot into the load screen. Cuts to desktop instantly. There must be some windows 7 conflict. Before the clean install I could at least get into the menu to choose "New Game".

 

Note that I'm aware you can't install it into the Programs Files folder, I installed to C:/Games/Oblivion

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I'm gonna keep posting my progress here so that other people have the same trouble getting Oblivion to run on Win 7 with similar mods can find solutions based on my experience.

 

Win 7 does seem to fully remove all registry entries on uninstall, but fails to remove the files in \Documents\My Games\Oblivion. These files MUST be removed or the game insta-crashes to desktop.

 

Now have the game working with NO patches applied at all. Will now try to patch using official patch 1.2.0416 ...

 

 

Works. Will now move on to mods.

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My system specs:

 

Win 7 x64 Home

Core i5 @ 3 GHz (overclocked)

4GB (2x2GB) Gskill 1600MHz RAM (clocked at 1500MHz)

Gigabyte Ga-P55A-UD3

EVGA Geforce 8800 GTS g92 512MB

Western Digital Caviar Black 640 GB HDD

Creative X-Fi Sound Card

Running 1680x1050 native resolution

 

Using HDR, and forcing 2x AA and 4x AF using Nvidia control panel

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I've installed the distant land texture fixes (better grass, Landscape LOD + Border, Normal Map Fix, and Texture noise replacement), Unofficial Oblivion Patch, OOO 1.33, and MMM 355b5.

 

All work ok.

 

Will install more in morning

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  • 3 weeks later...
Win 7 does seem to fully remove all registry entries on uninstall, but fails to remove the files in \Documents\My Games\Oblivion. These files MUST be removed or the game insta-crashes to desktop.

 

Win7 does not remove all of the Oblivion registry entries as that removal is done by the Oblivion uninstaller- which should not even be called an uninstaller because it does not uninstall anything except the base game. It leaves behind the data folder with any problems it had, the save game folder, with any of its problems, the ini file -which should be overwritten on the new install, and several registry entries.

 

For a more detailed explanation, Here is a link to my complete uninstall/reinstall procedure located in the articles section of the Nexus

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=240

 

It allows you to preserve any saves and mods, or remove them completely - your choice.

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