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Fyrant

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I have just restarted playing Oblivion and after weeks of trying to figure out how to use wrye bash, obmm, and a good load order I finally got up and running with minimal issues and all the mods I wanted to play with. Unfortunately, I did my testing pretty much exclusively in the sewers (beginning of the game) and now that I'm out I'm having what seems to be a bug or mod conflict issue that is causing CTDs regularly.

 

I use both Deadly Reflex 5 and Unnecessary Violence 3.1 which I think may be causing the issue, but I'm not sure. My complete load order is below and if any of you guys could recommend some trouble shooting actions I'd greatly appreciate it!

Load Order:



    1.  
    2. • 00 Oblivion.esm
    3. • 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]
    4. • 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
    5. • 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
    6. • 04 Tamrielic Ingredients.esm
    7. • 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
    8. • 06 Qarls_Harvest.esm
    9. • 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
    10. • 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
    11. • 09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
    12. • 0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
    13. • 0B Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]
    14. • 0C Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1]
    15. • 0D Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
    16. • 0E BathingMod_Base.esm
    17. • 0F Progress.esm [Version 2.0]
    18. • 10 HorseCombatMaster.esm
    19. • 11 UnnecessaryViolence.esm
    20. • 12 HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
    21. • 13 nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
    22. • 14 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
    23. • 15 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
    24. • 16 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
    25. • 17 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
    26. • 18 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
    27. • 19 SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30]
    28. • 1A Better Cities .esp
    29. • 1B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
    30. • 1C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
    31. • 1D Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
    32. • 1E Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
    33. • 1F Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
    34. • 20 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    35. • 21 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    36. • 22 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    37. • 23 Fran Armor Add-on.esp
    38. • 24 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
    39. • 25 oc_darker_nights.esp
    40. • 26 darker nights for shivering isles.esp
    41. • 27 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    42. • 28 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    43. • 29 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    44. • 2A All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]
    45. • • • Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
    46. • 2B Diverse Voices.esp
    47. • 2C Rainbows.esp
    48. • 2D LightsOut.esp
    49. • 2E CampfireBehavior.esp
    50. • 2F WindowLightingSystem.esp
    51. • 30 diversegrasses.esp
    52. • ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]
    53. • 31 Qarls_Harvest.esp
    54. • 32 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5]
    55. • ++ VA_BetterGold.esp
    56. • 33 Living Economy - SI.esp
    57. • 34 Living Economy - Items.esp
    58. • 35 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
    59. • 36 Choices and Consequences.esp
    60. • 37 DLCHorseArmor.esp
    61. • 38 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
    62. • 39 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11]
    63. • 3A DLCOrrery.esp
    64. • 3B DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
    65. • 3C SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11]
    66. • 3D Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 0.1]
    67. • 3E DLCVileLair.esp
    68. • 3F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
    69. • 40 SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp [Version 1.21]
    70. • 41 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
    71. • 42 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
    72. • 43 SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30]
    73. • 44 DLCSpellTomes.esp
    74. • 45 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
    75. • 46 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
    76. • 47 CSR - Fine Iron.esp
    77. • 48 CSR - Golden Saint.esp
    78. • 49 Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp
    79. • 4A pale_rider's Armory of The Divine Guardian.esp
    80. • 4B pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp
    81. • 4C pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp
    82. • 4D RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
    83. • 4E Warglaive - EV.esp
    84. • 4F Thieves Arsenal.esp
    85. • 50 Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp
    86. • 51 Roberts Armamentium female.esp
    87. • 52 DLCThievesDen.esp
    88. • 53 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
    89. • 54 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
    90. • 55 SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30]
    91. • 56 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]
    92. • 57 FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    93. • 58 ExnemRuneskulls.esp
    94. • 59 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    95. • 5A Tamrielic_Ingredients_cOMbo.esp
    96. • 5B FCOM_TamrielicIngredients.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    97. • 5C Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
    98. • 5D Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
    99. • 5E OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
    100. • 5F FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    101. • 60 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
    102. • 61 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    103. • 62 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
    104. • 63 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    105. • 64 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
    106. • 65 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    107. • 66 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
    108. • 67 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
    109. • ++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35]
    110. • 68 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 0.2]
    111. • 69 ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]
    112. • ++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35]
    113. • 6A ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]
    114. • ++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35]
    115. • 6B FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    116. • 6C Choices and Consequences - MMM.esp [Version 0.2]
    117. • 6D FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
    118. • 6E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    119. • 6F FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    120. • 70 FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    121. • 71 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    122. • 72 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    123. • 73 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    124. • 74 FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    125. • 75 FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    126. • 76 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    127. • 77 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    128. • 78 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    129. • 79 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    130. • 7A Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    131. • 7B Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    132. • 7C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    133. • 7D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    134. • 7E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    135. • 7F Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    136. • 80 Master-Crafting-1.1-MMM.esp
    137. • 81 Master-Crafting-1.1-MMM Greaves fix.esp
    138. • ++ TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]
    139. • 82 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
    140. • 83 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]
    141. • 84 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
    142. • 85 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
    143. • 86 FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    144. • 87 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    145. • 88 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    146. • 89 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    147. • 8A FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    148. • 8B FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2]
    149. • 8C FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1]
    150. • 8D TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b]
    151. • 8E TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 1.2b]
    152. • 8F TIE In - Cobl.esp [Version 1.2b]
    153. • 90 TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b]
    154. • 91 TIE In - RealSwords.esp [Version 1.2b]
    155. • 92 TIE In - MMM Gems.esp [Version 1.2b]
    156. • 93 TIE In - MMM Craft.esp [Version 1.2b]
    157. • 94 TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b]
    158. • 95 TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b]
    159. • 96 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    160. • 97 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]
    161. • 98 ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]
    162. • ++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]
    163. • ++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]
    164. • 99 OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp
    165. • 9A OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
    166. • 9B MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
    167. • 9C Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp
    168. • ++ Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - OOO.esp
    169. • ++ Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - FCOM.esp
    170. • 9D Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1]
    171. • 9E Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]
    172. • 9F GP_Moretta.esp
    173. • A0 Jason1_Pirate Ship.esp
    174. • A1 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
    175. • A2 Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
    176. • A3 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
    177. • A4 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
    178. • A5 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]
    179. • A6 Nascosto Isles 3.esp
    180. • A7 All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp
    181. • A8 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
    182. • A9 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
    183. • AA DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
    184. • AB SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp [Version 1.30]
    185. • AC DLCFrostcrag.esp
    186. • AD DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
    187. • AE SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp [Version 1.2]
    188. • AF Knights.esp
    189. • B0 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
    190. • B1 SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06]
    191. • B2 TIE In - Knights.esp [Version 1.2b]
    192. • B3 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    193. • B4 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    194. • B5 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.5]
    195. • B6 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
    196. • B7 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
    197. • B8 xulTheHeath.esp
    198. • B9 XulEntiusGorge.esp
    199. • BA xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
    200. • BB xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
    201. • BC xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
    202. • BD xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
    203. • BE xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
    204. • BF xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
    205. • C0 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
    206. • C1 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
    207. • C2 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
    208. • C3 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
    209. • C4 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
    210. • C5 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
    211. • C6 xulPantherRiver.esp
    212. • C7 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
    213. • C8 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
    214. • C9 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
    215. • CA xulBlackwoodForest.esp
    216. • CB xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
    217. • CC KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
    218. • CD xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
    219. • CE xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
    220. • CF NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 3.0]
    221. • D0 RR - LTPDPatch.esp
    222. • D1 FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]
    223. • D2 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
    224. • D3 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
    225. • D4 Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
    226. • D5 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
    227. • D6 DS Storage Sacks.esp [Version 1.21]
    228. • D7 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
    229. • D8 Wondrous_Inventory_v091.esp
    230. • D9 TIE In - Salmo, Cobl.esp [Version 1.2b]
    231. • DA TIE In - QarlsHarvest.esp [Version 1.2b]
    232. • DB TIE In - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.2b]
    233. • DC TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp [Version 1.2b]
    234. • DD TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2b]
    235. • DE TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 1.2b]
    236. • DF BathingMod_Soap.esp
    237. • E0 BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp
    238. • E1 RealisticFatigue.esp
    239. • E2 RealisticHealth.esp
    240. • E3 RealisticForceHigh.esp
    241. • E4 RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp
    242. • E5 SupremeMagicka.esp
    243. • E6 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
    244. • E7 SM_NoPoisonLevitationEffects.esp
    245. • E8 SM_EnchantStaff.esp
    246. • E9 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp
    247. • EA attack and hide medium v2.1.esp
    248. • EB No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp
    249. • EC Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 1.5x damage.esp
    250. • ED DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
    251. • EE ProgressMBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
    252. • EF ProgressSBSP.esp [Version 1.0]
    253. • F0 RealisticLeveling.esp
    254. • • • Dark Dungeons - SI.esp
    255. • ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.77]
    256. • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
    257. • • • X.Races.Comp.esp
    258. • F1 CreeperJones.esp
    259. • ++ bgBalancingEVNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp [Version 10.5DV-D]
    260. • F2 _burning_kvatch.esp
    261. • F3 [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
    262. • F4 UnnecessaryViolence.esp
    263. • F5 NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
    264. • ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
    265. • F6 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
    266. • F7 Streamline 3.1.esp
    267. • F8 Shadowcrans Mergeable Tweaks.esp
    268. • F9 Dangerous Waters.esp
    269. • FA Fun.esp
    270. • FB Samurai in Cyrodiil.esp
    271. • FC Visual Enchantments v0.9.esp
    272. • FD JumpModifier.esp
       

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yeldarb

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Unless a specific weapon is causing problems,Deactivate one of the two and see if that fixes your CTD.Use BOSS to sort your load order. Why do you have an esp for the Nvidia screen fix when you use Wrye Bash(line 20)? If you have Si you are using the wrong esp for balanced races(line 258). Use the new conflict detector in OBMM utilities to try and locate the conflict. The old conflict detector is more specific, but it is more difficult to read and understand.
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Risenz Apprentice

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Taken from the Unnecessary Violence page:

 

UV's esm provides several tools for other mod makers to make use of. Most important of these is an animation lock. OB's engine will cause a CTD if more than one animation is played on a given actor at any given time.

Might have something to do with it. Not sure though

 

Also, to clear up any thoughts you might have:

UV and DR play together very nicely indeed, since UV adds a lot of additional attack types but in no way touches the vanilla combat system, UV nicely fills that gap.

 

What version of NifScript are you using? And you might aswell list all of your obse plugins, they can act strange sometimes too

 

And I also wish to reiterate yeldarb's point. You dont need either of those mods.

 

Quick question which I myself am not sure about. 98-99 Do you need OOO 1.32-cobl if you have FCOM-Cobl?

 

Small note aswell: I dont think Tamrielic Ingredients is compatible with Cobl, infact i think its already included

 

What is Fun.esp?

 

That's all I can think of, I'll check a few things to see incompatibilities... later maybe.

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