TCIK Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Okay, since I'm completely at a loss, I come asking your advice, community! I am having a peculiar CTD problem that is 100% repeatable. In fact, I have a save right before it! Whenever I encounter a Frost Imp, and it attempts to cast something on me, I CTD. Using the debug text, I found that it was casting Ice Bolt, so I added it to my character to test. I seem to be able to cast it without crashing just fine, but the moment that it aggros on me and casts it, boom - instant fail train to the desktop. I use Wrye Bash, and the patch building feature of it. I also use BAIN to install most packages and OBMM to install OMODs (obviously) as well as change load order when necessary (never.) I'm also using BOSS to auto sort my load order, and I'm actually going to cut and paste its output in this thread for scrutinizing. Of the ones that won't be listed in this would be texture replacements, like QTP3 (Full, not Reduced or anything else,) RAEVD, the LOD texture packs and probably others that have slipped my mind. Anyway, I hope you can help me! Here's my mod list: ----------------------------------------------------------- Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility © Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010 Some rights reserved. CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ v1.51 (2 April 2010) ----------------------------------------------------------- Master .ESM date: Mon Jan 01 09:11:00 2001FCOM detected.OOO detected.Better Cities detected. ------------------------------------Recognised and re-ordered mod files:------------------------------------ Oblivion.esm . Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 963 $, $Date: 2010-05-28 23:30:48 -0700 (Fri, 28 May 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $ All Natural Base.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}} Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Cobl Main.esm . Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time. Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats,Relations}} Mart's Monster Mod.esm . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} FCOM_Convergence.esm . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Factions,Relations,Relev}} Better Cities Resources.esm BetterMusicSystem.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp . Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version). . Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM. . Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name. DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp . Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM. . Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}} Better Cities .esp . Note: Dummy file to load Better Cities .BSA Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp . Requires: Shivering Isles expansion. FCOM_Francescos.esp . Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b. FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp . Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b. . Requires: Francesco's supplementary addon package. FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp . Requires: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items 4.5b. Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}} . Note: Do not use with original Real Lights mod. All Natural.esp . Note: Required for All Natural. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate}} All Natural - SI.esp . Note: Required for All Natural SI support. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate}} All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp . Note: Only use one All Natural weather plugin. Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Water}} Storms & Sound.esp . Note: Use only one Storms and Sound mod file. Rainbows.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp Item interchange - Extraction.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Filter,Deactivate}} BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}} DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp . Conflicts with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'. DLCThievesDen.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}} DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp . Note: Make sure to install the FCOM patch 'FCOM_Cobl.esp'. Cobl Si.esp . Requires: Shivering Isles expansion. OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp FCOM_Cobl.esp . Requires: 'Cobl Glue.esp' and 'OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp'. . Note: Do not use COBL and Tamerielic Ingredients at the same time. Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp . Requires: 'FCOM_BobsArmory.esp'. FCOM_BobsArmory.esp . Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'. Oblivion WarCry EV.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,Delev,Graphics,Invent,Relev,Stats}} . Requires: either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp'. FCOM_WarCry.esp . Note: Use either 'FCOM_WarCry.esp' or 'FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp', not both. Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,R.ChangeSpells,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} FCOM_Convergence.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} FCOM_RealSwords.esp FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp FCOM_SaferRoads.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats}} FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp . Requires: 'Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp'. FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Factions,Graphics,Invent,Relev}} . Requires: Shivering Isles expansion. FCOM_Archery.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NoMerge,Stats}} FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NoMerge,Relations}} Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} MMM-Cobl.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Invent}} LordKain_Adash_World.esp . Note: German mod. MountainTower.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp . Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} and remove the C.Climate tag Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats}} DLC_MOBS.esp . Note: Don't use Battlehorn_mobs.esp, Lair_mobs.esp, Mehrunes_mobs.esp, or Thievesden_mobs.esp if using this as this includes all those. . Note: Use version 1.01 'http://tesnexus.com/downloads/download.php?id=29355' for Bashed Patch . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Stats}} FCOM_Knights.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Factions,Relations,Relev}} . Requires: DLC 'Knights.esp'. P1DkeyChain.esp Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp . Note: Use only one Enhanced Vegetation plugin. Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp . Note: Using any of the Storms & Sound patches Storms & Sounds.esp. If using any other Storms & Sound file (OBSE-Storms & Sound.esp, EW-Storms & Sound.esp, etc.), it must be renamed to Storms & Sound.esp. . Note: Better Cities patch is based off Better Cities.esm and can load above all Better Cities esps. Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp Alternate Start Revamped.esp MidasSpells.esp Midas OscuroGems.esp Midas Betterholy.esp Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp . Note: Use only one Reduced Costs module at a time Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp Midas PowDur2x.esp . Note: Use only one PowDur modifier at a time. Load after midasspells.esp Midas Eldrich Power 2.5x.esp . Note: Use only one Eldrich Power modifier at a time. Load after PowDur modifiers. Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp . Note: Pick either the Non OBSE version or this one. But not both. Do not run without Oblivion Script Extender. Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp . Note: Pick either the Non OBSE version or this one. But not both. Do not run without Oblivion Script Extender. Oblivion XP.esp Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Filter,IIM,Invent,Relev,Deactivate}} . Requires: Bashed Patch Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Filter,IIM,Invent,Deactivate}} . Requires: Bashed Patch Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp . Requires: Bashed Patch Cobl Races.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH: Eyes, Hair, R.Relations, Voice-M, Voice-F,R.Description,R.Skills,R.Attributes-F,R.Attributes-M,R.ChangeSpells}} . Note: Do not use with RBP. Cobl Races - Balanced.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-F,Body-M,Eyes,Hair,R.Relations,R.Description,R.Skills,R.Attributes-F,R.Attributes-M,R.ChangeSpells}} . Note: Do not use with RBP. Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp . Note: Only use if using Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities - COBL.esp Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH: Filter,Deactivate}} All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Filter,C.Climate,Deactivate}} Bashed Patch, 0.esp Streamline 3.1.esp -----------------------------------------------------------------Unrecognised mod files: Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unknown mod file: Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2a.esp -----------------------------------------------------------Done. 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TCIK Posted June 2, 2010 Author Share Posted June 2, 2010 Oh, I should probably add, I use the following OBSE plugins: StreamlineFastExit2Oblivion Stutter RemovalEnhanced Music ControlSound Commands I tried the Oblivion Crash Preventer plugin, but it did absolutely nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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