More immersive Capitol defences

[Gwaddan]

Did anyone else wonder Where was all the Capitol’s defences when the bombs fell?

What happened to the Anti Air defences to stop China’s Fighter bombers?

Where are the Pill Boxes (as seen in Operation Anchorage),

and most importantly Where is the American army’s Tanks (as referred to in Operation Anchorage).

Surely the protectrons, Sentry Bots and MR Gutsy’s wouldn’t have been a match for the Chimeras, and other Chinese Vehicles.

 

This leads me onto my Mod idea, There have been s few posts of similar mods;

 

http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=91503&st=0&p=720781&hl=Surface%20to%20air%20missile%20&fromsearch=1entry720781

 

My Idea is such;

Adding SAM batteries in strategic locations around the wastes based on the 1950’s Zeus SAM. And possible fire bases to protect the Capital from enemy planes.

 

Placement of Operation Anchorage style Pill boxes to the Armouries Each equipped with Sentry guns to reflect a bit more realism. (even USAF/RAF Lakenheath just down the road from me has pill boxes for defence.

 

And now the big one, Mobile Armour. The Chinese had Chimeras, So I had the idea of static models of M-42 Duster as a basic Self propelled AAA, M60 as a MBT and finally the M106 Self propelled artillery.

 

The rub is that It is a tall order to prepare the 3D meshes and get them as usable items in game. (my 3d modeling skills are a joke and NifSkope doesn’t work on my system.

 

If anyone is interested in this project please give me a call (you can contact me through the forums or Nexus)

[WastelandAssassin]

it is indeed a really big project, but it sounds great, so if you can pull if off, then i guess it will be one of the highest rated mods

now, i don't know if this will help, but there is a mod here in the Nexus, which contains meshes and i think textures for an Abrahams tank (hope it's spelled right)

so maybe you can use this one as a base

another think there is, is a mod that adds modern day aircrafts, like fighter jets and such, which you can also use, if it fits your theme

i'm afraid i have no skill in Blender or any such program, so i can't help you with the making of this mod

but i do wsh you the best of luck with it

[bben46]

The tank and AA missiles would fit in well in the FO3 world.

 

I lived near a Nike Ajax site as a kid and remember watching them being raised up out of the ground. An empty Nike site would make a good FO3 Home.

Here is a link to a deserted Nike site.

Nike site

 

There are probably some floorplans somewhere on the internet if you really want to be super accurate. But I don't think that is really necessary as the design for the sites would have evolved over time.

 

As for tanks, I think a modified Abrams or just about any other type will work fine. It should look very different from a Chimera though. As the FO3 world is a little more advanced it could be robotic controlled using the Protectron AI. Along with a powerful main gun, I would suggest a couple of standard game machine gun or laser turents on it.

 

A tank should be very difficult to take out. Almost impossible with small arms - but possibly with a weakness to rockets and bottlecap mines. Of take it over through a terminal that can give it basic commands - Patrol, guard, attack, stop, go to sleep.

[LtHavoc1983]

Well, maybe I can help with some refences of how armored vehicels could look like in Fallout 3. I would assume that they would look something like we would see in the old puppet series Thunderbirds or Captain Scarlet. Both series are retro future in nature and with some research you should be able to find some images of the models they used for that show.

 

That said, there is that Japanese company who created the model line called MaK: Maschienen Kreiger. The style of the vehicles there is very retro future and some of it is based on concepts and ideas from WW2. Let me show you what I mean:

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/1269702672302.jpg

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/1269702807319.jpg

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/1269703253069.jpg

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/1269703346481.jpg

 

Also here is the image of the Laser Tank from one of the Thunderbirds Episodes. I sadly do not have the images from the Tanks seen in the episodes "THe Imposters"

 

http://www.grahambleathman.co.uk/images/battletankmed.jpg

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/DH1Tank.jpg

 

Anyway, here are some general images of retro looking tanks I dug up that may be useful as reference:

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/M34A1_Garfield_Heavy_Tank_by_Jan-1.png

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/Future_Tank_by_Frohickey.jpg

 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/LtHavoc/Sci-Fi/Vehicles/1140311859565-1.jpg

 

Also a missile site could look like this, after 200 years:

 

http://datafortress2020.110mb.com/milcat/boblayzell.jpg

 

All overgrown and rusty, forgotten in the wastelands.

 

Just some ideas I throw out, tell me what you think.

[Nadin]

Drivable APCs? You could just use the script from the drivable motorcycle mod.

[Gwaddan]

I am not too conserned with the vehicles being mobile as after centuries of sitting there they arent likely to want to move anyway!

 

Lt_Havoc - Thank you for the pictures they give me some great ideas, I am considering using a the modern tanks as a base but encanced weaponry, The MBT for example should be equiped with a HE Laser and turret guns. again my main objective is to find someone who is able to create the 3d models and import them into GECK as static models for now, maybe at a later date make them mobile or at least destructable!

 

bben46- Thanky you for the pictures ot the Nike base remains, that is most impressive and gives me some great ideas for the layout I would like to keep the interior layout as realistic as possible but would probably rely on using a mixture of DCTA textures and Vault. The tanks are going to be the fun bit, Primarily I would like them as static but in future modifications i would hope to introduce quests to reactivate the Nike bases for the Outcasts, and retrieve the construction plans to the tanks for the Brotherhood, so they can re create a MBT... But all this hinges on somone with the ability and kindness to make the 3D models and meshes usable in Geck!!

 

WastelandAssassin- If you could be able to find the link to that mod I would be incredibly gratefull, If i have a base to work off it could save a lot of hassle! and thank you on the Good Luck, I think its gonna be needed!!

[WastelandAssassin]

I am not too conserned with the vehicles being mobile as after centuries of sitting there they arent likely to want to move anyway!

 

Lt_Havoc - Thank you for the pictures they give me some great ideas, I am considering using a the modern tanks as a base but encanced weaponry, The MBT for example should be equiped with a HE Laser and turret guns. again my main objective is to find someone who is able to create the 3d models and import them into GECK as static models for now, maybe at a later date make them mobile or at least destructable!

 

bben46- Thanky you for the pictures ot the Nike base remains, that is most impressive and gives me some great ideas for the layout I would like to keep the interior layout as realistic as possible but would probably rely on using a mixture of DCTA textures and Vault. The tanks are going to be the fun bit, Primarily I would like them as static but in future modifications i would hope to introduce quests to reactivate the Nike bases for the Outcasts, and retrieve the construction plans to the tanks for the Brotherhood, so they can re create a MBT... But all this hinges on somone with the ability and kindness to make the 3D models and meshes usable in Geck!!

 

WastelandAssassin- If you could be able to find the link to that mod I would be incredibly gratefull, If i have a base to work off it could save a lot of hassle! and thank you on the Good Luck, I think its gonna be needed!!

 

well, HERE is the M1 Abrahms Tank model, and there are models and textures, or so the description says

of course, you will need to ask the author to use it, but i hope he will grant you permission

 

about the planes, i can't seem to remember where i have found them, but if i do find the mod, i will send you the link