durbin Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Ok Ill start off I run several mods and I had no problems until completing the last quest in the thieves guild and the beginning of the dark brotherhood quest. Ok so I kill the guy in the inn of ill omen, I cant not access the hatch to get out of the area. So I use my partner travel ring to teleport back to my house in the IC. Ok everything else goes fine I joined the dark brotherhood and do the 1st kill mission no problem. Now onto the accident mission I fast travel to BRUMA BAM CTD automatically. Im like ok this happens! So than I keep trying for a whole day and nothing but CTDs. I work through the night researching and trying everything to keep bruma from crashing. No fix. So I do a clean reinstall of all mods and game. BAM CTD. I even tried open cities but there was still doors there after the open cities door. I could not eliminate the problem. Did another clean install and somehow it worked so I was like awesome! I continue on to do the dark brotherhood quest everything was fine until i kill the elf in the jail. Half way through the sewers I start getting some horrib FPS drop like in the 9-10 fps. I was like ok not a problem it happens. So after 20 minutes or so it does it again, 15 minutes it happens again. Now Im to the point where it starts like 20 seconds after a loaded game. But heres the strange thing if I press tab to bring up the inventory they go back to normal, if i go into the console they return to normal. And it is so frustraing every 10-40 seconds I have to press tab or the console button. Ive done my research, Ive tweaked the ini, Ive tried streamline 3.0 and 2.0 the oblivion stutter remover and what ever frame rate optimizers there are here and on planetscrolls. Ive done 6 clean installs in the past 30 hours. Im about to go crazy and I just now really really enjoyed playing this time around. Please help me Im going crazy. My mods are Cobl Races - Balanced.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon I.esp M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon II.esp M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp Potion_Sorter-2081.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Real Lava 1.3.esp Side's Sailing Ships (COBL).esp Spell Ranks.esp Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 ScreenEffects.esm 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 04 CM Partners.esm 05 HorseCombatMaster.esm 06 UnnecessaryViolence.esm 07 TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp 08 TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp 09 Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.6] 0B UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 0F Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp 10 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 11 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp 12 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 13 IlluminationWithin.esp 14 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 15 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 16 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp 17 ClocksOfCyrodiilNoArcane.esp 18 Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp 19 personality_idles2.esp 1A Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0] 1B Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp [Version 1.0.0] 1C Harvest[Containers].esp 1D StandingJOJO.esp 1E DLCHorseArmor.esp 1F DLCOrrery.esp 20 DLCVileLair.esp 21 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 22 DLCSpellTomes.esp 23 ExnemEyeCandy.esp 24 HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp 25 Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp 26 BlackLuster.esp 27 BlackLuster 2SwordStyle.esp 28 Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp 29 DarkIllusionArmor.esp 2A Forestlight Armor.esp 2B Hemingweys NPC Capes.esp [Version 1.02] 2C IvyArmor_Full.esp 2D M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp [Version 2] 2E M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp [Version 2] 2F M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp [Version 1] 30 M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp [Version 1] 31 M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp [Version 1] 32 NexonsArmoryENG.esp 33 PTArtifacts.esp 34 Underworld Armor.esp 35 Thieves Arsenal.esp 36 Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp 37 DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp 38 BlackRogue.esp 39 JB Catsuit Variants.esp [Version 1.5.] 3A JB Catsuit Weapons.esp [Version 1.5.] 3B R18PN - Lingeries.esp 3C R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp 3D Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp 3E AncientTowers.esp 3F DLCThievesDen.esp 40 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 41 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 42 Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 43 BravilSeaDomesExpanded.esp 44 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.1] 45 Abriael_Human.esp 46 eyja.esp 47 Hentai Mania.esp 48 HeartofDarkness.esp 49 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Talos Plaza.esp 4A ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Elven Gardens.esp 4B ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Green Emperor Way.esp 4C ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Prison.esp 4D ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arena.esp 4E ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Waterfront.esp 4F ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Temple.esp 50 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - The Arcane University.esp 51 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Market.esp 52 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arboretum.esp 53 JQ&DM-ScriptedBackpacks.esp 54 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp 55 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp 56 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 57 LordKain_Adash_World.esp 58 M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp [Version 6] 59 M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2] 5A mystery of mausoleum.esp 5B Return Of Shadows.esp [Version 1.03] 5C Servant of the Dawn.esp 5D Side's Sailing Ships.esp 5E Side's Sailing Ships (COBL).esp 5F Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 60 24hourArena.esp [Version 1.1] 61 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp 62 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 63 DLCFrostcrag.esp 64 Knights.esp 65 M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp [Version 1] 66 M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.esp [Version 3] 67 The Lost Spires.esp 68 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp 69 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 6A HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.2] 6B Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 6C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] 6D Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 6E Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 6F Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 70 Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp 71 Colourwheels Sexy Bank.esp 72 M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp [Version 1] 73 M.O.E. - Travel Services.esp [Version 3] 74 M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp [Version 1] 75 M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp [Version 1] 76 M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp [Version 7] 77 M.O.E. - Realistic Prices, Realistic Weights, No Quest Items.esp [Version 2] 78 M.O.E. - New Classes.esp [Version 1] 79 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 7A Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 7B bondage_sex.esp 7C Eroblivion.esp 7D M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon I.esp [Version 1] 7E M.O.E. - Alternative Script Effect Icon II.esp [Version 1] 7F Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 80 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] 81 Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] 82 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0] 83 M.O.E. - Fatigue Loss from Running.esp [Version 1] 84 M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp [Version 6] 85 BasicInstinct.esp 86 M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp [Version 1] 87 M.O.E. - Levitation Magic.esp [Version 1] 88 M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp [Version 1] 89 M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp [Version 1] 8A M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp [Version 2] 8B Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2] 8C MidasSpells.esp 8D MidasMagicCompanions.esp 8E FearsomeMagicka.esp 8F Spell Ranks.esp 90 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp Delinquent Master: RshAlchemy.esp 91 Enchantment Enhanced.esp 92 M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part One.esp [Version 1] 93 M.O.E. - Realistic Law Enforcement - Part Two.esp [Version 2] 94 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp 95 Druid.esp 96 All+5AttributeModifiers.esp 97 Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp 98 Seph's new animations.esp 99 CTAddPose_v_1.esp 9A CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp 9B actors_in_charge.esp 9C 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 9D EFGAddPose.esp 9E shinyEmotions.esp 9F DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp A0 Slof's Sexy Anims.esp A1 zzEstrus.esp A2 M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp [Version 1] A3 M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp [Version 1] A4 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp A5 AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp A6 CuteElf11.esp [Version 1.3.5] A7 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp A8 AinmhiRace.esp A9 M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp [Version 1] AA Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0] AB Beautiful People.esp AC CM Partners.esp AD CM Partners Special NPCs.esp AE CM Partners NPC.esp AF CM Partners More NPCs.esp B0 CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp B1 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp B2 cmAbbeyAeryn.esp B3 cmSashaSonja.esp B4 1em_Vilja.esp B5 Aliyah.esp B6 Companion_Ab_Human.esp B7 Companion_Ab_Human_2.esp B8 Companion_Ab_Human_3.esp B9 Companion_Ab_Human_4.esp BA DAEluna.esp BB sexycompanion.esp BC DAValeriaCuteElf.esp BD DATalitha.esp BE DAJadeAmberSheevaTabaxi.esp BF DAMeridiaKatrina.esp C0 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] C1 Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] C2 lumi_enchantments.esp C3 Real Lava 1.3.esp C4 ScreenControls.esp C5 SnArrowEffects.esp C6 Hemingweys Capes.esp [Version 2.00] C7 UnnecessaryViolence.esp C8 CleanQuit.esp C9 IlluminationWithout.esp CA AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp CB CM_Piper2.esp CC SPB Tatakau Maid San.esp CD SPB Mercenary Armors.esp CE Azure.esp CF BladeSong.esp D0 R18PN - Schatten lauf Amr.esp D1 Potion_Sorter-2081.esp D2 ShadowfangKeep.esp D3 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp D4 RshAlchemy.esp Cobl RulesThis ruleset covers Cobl (Common Oblivion) and related mods. CONFIGURATION: Cobl Main.esmx Cobl Glue.esp Glues Cobl items into vanilla lists, cells x Cobl Si.esp Glues Cobl items into Shivering Isles cells. x Cobl Tweaks.esp Adds Cobl items to creatures and NPCs. x Cobl Races.esp Additional races, hairs, eyes. o Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp Adds foods from various mods to the Dinner Plate. (Requires OBSE.) sorry couldnt find my list so I used wyrebash list my specs are Windows 7 with ati Phenom x4 925 with an ati radeon 4600 HD 1gig and 8 gigs of ram. PLease oh please someone help me before I go crazy!!!! OK just tried running it without obse and does same thing Ive done everything I think I found on the board and I have not seen anyone else with this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbin Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 I have disabled all mods except the ones for my character meshes and it still does the same thing. But I start a new game and it dosent seem to happen I think I spent like 20 minutes on a new character and it dont seem to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TabuKuroshi Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Wild guess, but have you tried the remove bloating feature in Wrye Bash? If a new character is working ok, then maybe the save is messed up and/or bloated. I'm not an expert at fixes, so this might not help at all. I just figured I would mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 If you did a 'clean' install and then put your old save games and old mods back, you just put the problem back. Using the game uninstall does not really uninstall everything. It leaves a lot behind. Old saves, old mods, old oblivion.ini and - most important old entries in the Windows registry. If you are able to start and play some, the registry is probably OK. So another reinstall is probably not needed. First, delete the Oblivion.ini ( the one in the folder with the saves - NOT the one in the Oblivion folder) When you start the game, it will create a new one based on your hardware. Then try this: It should leave you with a true clean install - without the hassle of reinstalling.Bben's Oblivion Revert to Vanilla gamehttp://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=340 But first, get some sleep. It just isn't worth missing sleep over a game. And if you are tired you will make mistakes. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbin Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 YEs I have cleared the bloat of all my saves repaired the hair npcs factions and removed abomb. The only thing I can think of is I didnt have the pugins required by fdearsome magic and did not set my value to 1 in unneccesary violence ini. BEcause I noticed that when creating a new character. Nut I tried that and fps still go down to 8 to 10 and is restored back to normal when pressing tab or ` console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbin Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 YEs I have cleared the bloat of all my saves repaired the hair npcs factions and removed abomb. The only thing I can think of is I didnt have the pugins required by fdearsome magic and did not set my value to 1 in unneccesary violence ini. BEcause I noticed that when creating a new character. Nut I tried that and fps still go down to 8 to 10 and is restored back to normal when pressing tab or ` console. Bben I followed the clean install on this website and I only replaced one new save after backing them up..... But its just wierd how the old save game works fine but when I start a new one there is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbin Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 WElp I just decided to dump a 90 hour save and start again. But I kept a backup just in case something will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuhhris Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 WElp I just decided to dump a 90 hour save and start again. But I kept a backup just in case something will work. Its probably the Bruma Statue. I had this issue. Did you complete the main story line? Because I'm guessing they put up a statue of your character which is probably a custom race and it crashes Bruma. There is a KillBrumaStatue/KillKvatchStatue mod out there somewhere forgot where. I know that's not much help but if you completed the main story line and you are having trouble entering Bruma then that is most likely the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfen Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 • 11 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp • 12 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp I think you probably need to choose one of these - not both. • 5D Side's Sailing Ships.esp • 5E Side's Sailing Ships (COBL).esp I'm not familiar with this one. Check the install instructions for this mod to verify that you are supposed to install both rather than chosing one of them to install. • 90 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp • Delinquent Master: RshAlchemy.esp This is a serious problem. RshAlchemyRecipes depends on another mod which is not loaded. Things like this cause serious badness... • D4 RshAlchemy.esp Oh, here it is. This needs to be loaded before RshAlchemyRecipes. Either move that one down or this one up in the load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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