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Purr4me Grand Master

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http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq192/Drithius/Fallout32014-10-0418-07-13-10.jpg

Turn off the pip light here.

You see just to the left lower corner here?, of the shelves? That's shadow, that means the pipboy light is on. On top of the Gun, is a shinny reflection, that is light.

The mod is (OldWorldSecretsV1.1) That room.

(Megajulia_Prime's Bucket )

I can't even load the page. 30 minutes and ten tries, find another place to post your shots so I can see what it is.

I might know the bug.

The armor is flickering purple? is that right?

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k408/Megajulia_Prime/ScreenShot1_zpsd42abaaf.png

From which mod is it from? If possible. upload a saved game that contains this bug for me to test.

Whit the mods only effecting the weirdness. not 1000 1 mods. just a as small amount will do.

If I can duplicate this, I can fix it for you.

Kitty

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Hey Kitty!

 

Thanks for the reply, I've been hitting a lot of dead ends on this. My save is from within an AWOP cell. I've disabled a lot of other mods, so it won't be exactly the same, but the problem is still present.

 

* Yes, the pipboy light was on; the problem vanishes as soon as I turn it off.

* This only happens indoors.

* This always happens (so far) when there has previously been an explosion or use of a flamer nearby (lighting...)

* if I look at my feet in the above shot (with the pipboy on), the white textures vanish until I look up again.

* Similarly, if I move around the corpses, the different angle will sometimes cause the normal textures to reappear.

 

It is undoubtedly something with the way the specular maps are being rendered but I'm not sure what I can do to fix this aside from disabling them altogether.

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Purr4me Grand Master

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Downloading data now.

My Current loaded up stuff, just looking for particular data I know of and where it was:

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
ThePitt.esm
Zeta.esm
EVE.esm
Alton, IL.esm
AWorldOfPainFO3.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
Vault2lol022.esm
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
OldWorldSecretsV1.1.esp
Dree Perks Anchorage.esp
Dree Perks Pitts.esp
Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp
Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp
Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp
Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp
Dree Perks.esp
KittenExperimentalDynamicViewWeather.esp
DC Moods.esp
The Pitt Moods.esp
DC Moods Brighter Nights .esp

 

I'll see what happens shortly with your saved game, I hope you are not running FOSE cuz that takes a bit of time ripping out the OPT codes from the saved game files.

 

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http://s26.postimg.org/shtdnmryh/Screen_Shot4.jpg

stand by.

Hardware issue for you. The bug is non existent here for me using your data.

http://s26.postimg.org/at1mw0g7d/Screen_Shot5.jpg

I would require a saved game from the other person as well to verify the circumstances are the same, he or she would also need to cut down as much data as possible for me to check it. It may be AA on the systems graphics details for the main OS..the desktop software or DX data is out of date.

Kitty

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Purr4me Grand Master

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I do know this, IF the mesh files for some software are missing specific informations within them, the Object themselves will do this too, aside from world spaces and speculars, individuales are not effected in the same way, but....they appear ONLY to be so in the same way.

 

these things are usually from bad video cards when the data is made. It get trapped into the code of the file. If you know what your doing and are very carful to isolate a suspected mod package, you can use a swiss army knife type of programing to try and cut out the data (pyFFi) will do just that BIG time.

 

the problem is, you need to have the skills to make the repairs on the data effected only.

 

So, target the data ot items, get out pecil and paper and start writing down them as you go if is armor or objects. Get the ID's and then make only an esp for those mesh files and objects. Use Fo3edits scripts asset manager to scan the mesh files listed in the esp you design for the repairs to be made, it will deposit the textures for the data in question to an appropriated folder of your own choosing to isolate and investigate the data, even make a small repair kit if need be to hack / load into the game and verify this was indeed the cause.......from there, we end up deciding if we tell any one or whom it was that made the data in the first place. research and development becomes part of the experience on modding games.

 

Kitty B.

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Sorry I'm not sure what you meant by cutting down data (uninstalling my mods?) but I've found that eve seems to be causing the error as I uninstalled it and everything was fine my armor never turned white after an hour of playing/doing things that made it turn white before. Here is my save file though incase you can replicate it https://www.dropbox.com/s/2wqaqcuhpgplb95/Save%202505%20-%20Max%2C%20Commanding%20Officer%27s%20Quarters%2C%2011.42.52.fos?dl=0

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Purr4me Grand Master

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So far from one list of mod you had posted, out of them I isolated the problem data, here is the current load with zero issues I have.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
ThePitt.esm
Zeta.esm
AWorldOfPainFO3.esm
Vault2lol022.esm
Alton, IL.esm
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
EVE.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
OldWorldSecretsV1.1.esp
KittenExperimentalDynamicViewWeather.esp
Dree Perks Anchorage.esp
Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp
Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp
Dree Perks Pitts.esp
Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp
Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp
Dree Perks.esp
DC Moods Brighter Nights .esp
DC Moods.esp
The Pitt Moods.esp

 

 

Now when I activate what I believe is the data you have there (outcastpower armor camo retextured) I could be wrong about the mod but not the results found. This renders the White lite very bright from the pipboy. Why this does that is because the mod in question is a Joke mod still sitting on the nexus , people are downloading things like this and still get caught by it.

 

the files are Blanks.dds files, listed as legit re-textures, they are just plain black blanks. But the game will load them and the result is the armors get lit up like the 4rth of July !

 

textures\pipboy3000\pipboyglove01.dds
textures\weapons\2handrifle\sniperrifle.dds
textures\weapons\2handrifle\sniperrifleclip.dds
textures\weapons\2handrifle\1stpersonsniperrifle.dds
textures\armor\powerarmor\powerarmorbodyoutcast.dds
textures\armor\headgear\powerarmoroutcasthelmet.dds

 

these are just Junk.

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Your EVE file....what is the source and date of production? Whom packaged it up, what form of install did it require?

 

Sorry I'm not sure what you meant by cutting down data (uninstalling my mods?

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
ThePitt.esm
Zeta.esm <---- if the bug is still there, your claim is if EVE is involved ,you have the bug...Correct?

 

so do this:

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
ThePitt.esm
Zeta.esm

Eve.esm

------------------------ Hard save and verify the bug is in it even screen shot it, please show me first. I need to know your armor files zip package name...the one effected by this problem.

 

You were and are the focus of this discussion so we need to fix your issue.

I'll download what you have placed on the server now and see what's in it.

kitty

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Purr4me Grand Master

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Ok, downloaded ,tested, Current loaded data is here:

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
AWorldOfPainFO3.esm
Alton, IL.esm
EVE.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
DC Moods Brighter Nights .esp
DC Moods.esp
The Pitt Moods.esp
Dree Perks.esp
Dree Perks Anchorage.esp
Dree Perks Pitts.esp
Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp
Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp
Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp
Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp

 

 

No bugs detects in the saved game file with the above plugins, I have the flamer and even used it to work my way outside.

so. to be clear ,obviously there is more to this bug hunt I have not yet seen. IF you can, Subtract the data I posted here and list the links to the remaining mods,, I have almost every mod ever made, but some mods are not to my Genders liking so I have not downloaded a few. a lot I have renamed.

I do have my own examples of bugs I know about, flickering data /armors and weapons, objects, even the ground will do it.

 

post that. if you want to see the screenies from the test, I'll post em for you.

kitty

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Purr4me Grand Master

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http://s26.postimg.org/93sjny0i1/Screen_Shot7.jpg

Flamer thing

http://s26.postimg.org/firkkm77t/Screen_Shot6.jpg

http://s26.postimg.org/8gtmyf3m1/Screen_Shot5.jpg

http://s26.postimg.org/tezswi3gp/Screen_Shot4.jpg

Kitty

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