Updated OBSE version now getting 30 second lag when saving

[Havan_IronOak]

I recently installed the Map Marker Overhaul upgrade and it said that I needed a newer version of OBSE. I went back and installed that. Now, my quicksaves (F5) and interzone autosaves and even my full saves seem to run much slower. I sometimes see a quick glimpse of a loading screen then the screen goes black and 30 seconds or so pass before my display comes back.

 

This is pretty much a ceteris peribus problem as I've added no other mods in the mean time.

 

I'm using over 50 mods so far and they all seem to work OK I've even degfragmented my hard drive recently (no Oblivion files now show on the defrag report)

 

Map mods that I'm using include

Landmarks with Wells

HouseMapMarkers

 

I've also installed

ULCompOMOD a few eeks back and at that time all worked great.

[Tomlong54210]

Please, post your load order. You may need to update one of your OBSE-dependent mods. Are you running v18 stable. You should not use Oblivion's quick saves, period. If you want a safe quick save feature, install Streamline. Do you have the latest MMO update?

[Tomlong54210]

Please, post your load order. You may need to update one of your OBSE-dependent mods. Are you running v18 stable. You should not use Oblivion's quick saves, period. If you want a safe quick save feature, install Streamline. Do you have the latest MMO update?

[Havan_IronOak]

Please, post your load order. You may need to update one of your OBSE-dependent mods. Are you running v18 stable. You should not use Oblivion's quick saves, period. If you want a safe quick save feature, install Streamline. Do you have the latest MMO update?

 

Sorry it took so long to get back to you...

 

I'm running

Oblivion 12.04.16

DarkUI'd DarN 1.6

OBMM version 1.1.12

 

 

My load Order is as shown below... Any ideas?

Oblivion.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

Artifacts.esm

bookplacing.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Beautiful People - Boethia Custom Race Fix.esp

RougeHairStyl.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

BulkyNord.esp

Beautiful People.esp

Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp

Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp

Larger Ogres and Trolls etc.esp

Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp

ArenaEyeCandyArmor.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Town_Ceremonial_Armor.esp

Imperial Armor Replace.esp

Regional Legion Soldiers by Ionis.esp

A's Silver Ebony Armour and Weapons.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp

Gypsy_Clothes.esp

blackleatherarmor.esp

RustyItems.esp

ArmamentariumVendors.esp

That's so Nico v1.1.esp

A's Elven Swords.esp

A's Elven Longsword.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp

ICTalosBridgeFire.esp

Benirus_Manor_Improved.esp

BrumaHouseLighting.esp

Improved Lava.esp

SDCrystalBallLamps.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Soul Gem Discharger.esp

CM_Better Wine.esp

Cyrodilic Brandy.esp

Droppable LitTorches 1.1.esp

ImprovedSoulgems.esp

Gems.esp

Sunnier Weather.esp

Artifacts.esp

Banes Archer Paradox.esp

Book Placement v2.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

DaggerfallBooks.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Days&Months.esp

Sunlit Interiors 1.31.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

IlluminationWithin.esp

IlluminationWithout.esp

Expensive pelts.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Harpsichords in Cyrodiil.esp

Better Bell Sounds.esp

choirchapels.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

MrPwner's Ambient Churches.esp

CloudrulertempleVWD_v1.1.esp

Slof's Dogs.esp

Slof's Horses Base.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

RedBag - Friendly Animals.esp

Ayleid Arrow.esp

AlterOfChange.esp

CDM-Books and Markers.esp

JQ-Backpacks.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

StokerWolff.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

Volerothe's Trinkets.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp

MapMarkers.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

moremapmarkers.esp

Maps!.esp

The Imperial Museum.esp

Toaster Says Share.esp

Slof's Extra Horses.esp

allinonebasement.esp

BookTrackerOBSE.esp

Cliff's Smokey Chimneys.esp

IWR-Windows.esp

IWR-Lights.esp

IWR-Shutters.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiillStreets.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiilGuardPatrol.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiilIlluminateTorches .esp

CityLights - ImperialCity.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

RealisticFlora.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

Thievery.esp

[Tomlong54210]

Please, post your load order. You may need to update one of your OBSE-dependent mods. Are you running v18 stable. You should not use Oblivion's quick saves, period. If you want a safe quick save feature, install Streamline. Do you have the latest MMO update?

 

Sorry it took so long to get back to you...

 

I'm running

Oblivion 12.04.16

DarkUI'd DarN 1.6

OBMM version 1.1.12

 

 

My load Order is as shown below... Any ideas?

Oblivion.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

Artifacts.esm

bookplacing.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Beautiful People - Boethia Custom Race Fix.esp <-- What is this?

RougeHairStyl.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp <-- This is not compatible with BP.

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp <-- Outdated, remove

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp <-- This is not compatible with BP, and you should only run on of Ren's main plugins anyway.

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp <-- BP includes Ren's Elves and hairs.

BulkyNord.esp

Beautiful People.esp <-- Run on main cosmetic mod, and do not use multiple main plugins (you already had the old Robert-compatible version) installed.

Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp

Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp

Larger Ogres and Trolls etc.esp

Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp

ArenaEyeCandyArmor.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Town_Ceremonial_Armor.esp

Imperial Armor Replace.esp

Regional Legion Soldiers by Ionis.esp

A's Silver Ebony Armour and Weapons.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp

Gypsy_Clothes.esp

blackleatherarmor.esp

RustyItems.esp

ArmamentariumVendors.esp

That's so Nico v1.1.esp

A's Elven Swords.esp

A's Elven Longsword.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp

ICTalosBridgeFire.esp

Benirus_Manor_Improved.esp

BrumaHouseLighting.esp

Improved Lava.esp

SDCrystalBallLamps.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Soul Gem Discharger.esp

CM_Better Wine.esp

Cyrodilic Brandy.esp

Droppable LitTorches 1.1.esp

ImprovedSoulgems.esp

Gems.esp

Sunnier Weather.esp

Artifacts.esp

Banes Archer Paradox.esp

Book Placement v2.esp

Reznod_Mannequin.esp

DaggerfallBooks.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Days&Months.esp

Sunlit Interiors 1.31.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp <-- Outdated, swap for Quest Award Leveler

IlluminationWithin.esp <-- swap for AWLS, better performance, better design

IlluminationWithout.esp <-- You cannot run this with IlluminationWithin.esp. They are both main modules. You can only run one version of mod at a time.

Expensive pelts.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Harpsichords in Cyrodiil.esp

Better Bell Sounds.esp

choirchapels.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

MrPwner's Ambient Churches.esp

CloudrulertempleVWD_v1.1.esp

Slof's Dogs.esp

Slof's Horses Base.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

RedBag - Friendly Animals.esp

Ayleid Arrow.esp

AlterOfChange.esp

CDM-Books and Markers.esp

JQ-Backpacks.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

StokerWolff.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

Volerothe's Trinkets.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp

Landmarks, w Wells.esp <-- There is no reason to use this with MMO. Remove it.

MapMarkers.esp <-- There is no reason to use this with MMO. Remove it.

FormID Finder4.esp

moremapmarkers.esp <-- There is no reason to use this with MMO. Remove it.

Maps!.esp

The Imperial Museum.esp

Toaster Says Share.esp

Slof's Extra Horses.esp

allinonebasement.esp

BookTrackerOBSE.esp

Cliff's Smokey Chimneys.esp <-- Unless this is just a texture replacer, AWLS will replace this.

IWR-Windows.esp <-- This is the Retrofitted version of Illumination Within. You cannot run multiple versions of the same modification.

IWR-Lights.esp <-- Remove these. AWLS replaces them anyway.

IWR-Shutters.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiillStreets.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiilGuardPatrol.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiilIlluminateTorches .esp

CityLights - ImperialCity.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

RealisticFlora.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

Thievery.esp

This load order needs to be sorted, and you have duplicate modifications all over the place. Please, clean this.

 

BOSS - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=boss <-- load ordering utility

LO Template - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=load_order#LOTemplate <-- use this if you have (BOSS) unknowns

 

Please, read the BOSS log file (the one that pops up after running it.)

 

If you want to use BP and Robert, you have to modify the BP plugin to make it compatible. Get the latest version of BP, if you do not already have it.

Making Ren's Beauty Pack Compatible with Robert's Male Body - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=merging_ren_and_robert_male <-- This is not specific to Ren's plugin. You can do the same for BP. It is a pretty straight-forward operation.

[Havan_IronOak]

Thanks for the help! I added in several of the beauty mods a while back and had a problem with the way the eyes were displayed. Once I got them to appear correctly I was kind of afraid to mess with them again. But I did uncheck a number of them and that made a BIG difference in the load/save speed.

 

Not sure why the upgrade to OBSE accentuated that but it's definately better now. I'll need to spend some time applying the other fizes you suggested as well.

 

Thanks again.

[Tomlong54210]

Thanks for the help! I added in several of the beauty mods a while back and had a problem with the way the eyes were displayed. Once I got them to appear correctly I was kind of afraid to mess with them again. But I did uncheck a number of them and that made a BIG difference in the load/save speed.

 

Not sure why the upgrade to OBSE accentuated that but it's definately better now. I'll need to spend some time applying the other fizes you suggested as well.

 

Thanks again.

Good to hear.

 

 

Happy gaming!

- Tomlong75210

[Havan_IronOak]

I've worked my way through the rest of your suggestions and my load order is now as follows:

 

Oblivion.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

Artifacts.esm

bookplacing.esm

Armamentarium.esm

BulkyNord.esp

Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp

Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp

Larger Ogres and Trolls etc.esp

Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp

ArenaEyeCandyArmor.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Town_Ceremonial_Armor.esp

Imperial Armor Replace.esp

Regional Legion Soldiers by Ionis.esp

A's Silver Ebony Armour and Weapons.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp

Gypsy_Clothes.esp

blackleatherarmor.esp

RustyItems.esp

ArmamentariumVendors.esp

That's so Nico v1.1.esp

A's Elven Swords.esp

A's Elven Longsword.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp

ICTalosBridgeFire.esp

Benirus_Manor_Improved.esp

BrumaHouseLighting.esp

Improved Lava.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

SDCrystalBallLamps.esp

MyMuseum.esp

Soul Gem Discharger.esp

CM_Better Wine.esp

Cyrodilic Brandy.esp

Droppable LitTorches 1.1.esp

ImprovedSoulgems.esp

Gems.esp

Sunnier Weather.esp

Artifacts.esp

Banes Archer Paradox.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Book Placement v2.esp

DaggerfallBooks.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Days&Months.esp

Sunlit Interiors 1.31.esp

Nico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp

Reznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

PhysTaps Teaser Imperial Arena_Merchants Inn.esp

Expensive pelts.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Harpsichords in Cyrodiil.esp

Better Bell Sounds.esp

choirchapels.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

MrPwner's Ambient Churches.esp

CloudrulertempleVWD_v1.1.esp

Slof's Dogs.esp

Slof's Horses Base.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

RedBag - Friendly Animals.esp

Ayleid Arrow.esp

AlterOfChange.esp

CDM-Books and Markers.esp

Encumbrancemult10.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

StokerWolff.esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

Volerothe's Trinkets.esp

HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

moremapmarkers.esp

Maps!.esp

Kikai & Slof Clothing.esp

The Imperial Museum.esp

Toaster Says Share.esp

Slof's Extra Horses.esp

Life Detected - OMOD.esp

HealthFood-2050.esp

PCSoundCernd.esp

allinonebasement.esp

BookTrackerOBSE.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiillStreets.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiilGuardPatrol.esp

[Calsar] LightUpCyrodiilIlluminateTorches .esp

CityLights - ImperialCity.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

RealisticFlora.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

Thievery.esp

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

 

 

I'm pretty happy now with the appearance of everything and with load/save times but...

 

My kahjit's have pink hands and feet and when looted a pink torso as well.

 

Using the FormID finder plugin it lloks as though I'm missing a MESH called _male\skeletonbeast.nif

 

Any idea what that's about? I've downloaded and unpacked a few of Roberts kahjit plugins and scanned them for that .NIF file but it doesn't seem to appear anywhere.

 

BTW.. the moremapmarkers.esp that I left in seems to be the only one that features guilds as a quick travel destination in most cities. I don't always quick travel but when I'm tired I do and it's nice to have.

[Tomlong54210]

Book Placement v2.esp <-- I do not think this is supposed to be used with the ESM. This is the ESP that is part of the same mod as bookplacing.esm, isn't it...?

 

Pink indicates missing textures. The mesh is not the problem. What body replacers are you using, if any? What Khajiit textures do you have installed?

 

Quest Award Leveling.esp <-- replace with Quest Award Leveler (Popular Outdated Mods - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=popular_outdated_mods)