fearofshorts Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Thanks for the advice!Here's the output of "diff masters": Removed Masters (Streamsave_6.ess):• ArmamentariumLL.esp • ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp • ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp • bgBalancingEVNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp • Cobl Races.esp • EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp • EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp • EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp • MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp • MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp • OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp • TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp Added Masters (Active Masters):• Windfall.esm • Artifacts.esm • TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp • PersuasionOverhaul.esp • RenGuardOverhaul.esp What should I remove or add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Could you post your load order here too? I need to do some cross-referencing for my recs. The removed mods look fine though. I would try removing the added mods, all but TT4OOO, which should be perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearofshorts Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Thanks so much Tom! • 00 Oblivion.esm • 01 Windfall.esm • 02 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4.1] • 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm • 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm • 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] • 06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] • 07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] • 08 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm • 09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] • 0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] • 0B Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] • 0C Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1] • 0D HorseCombatMaster.esm • 0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.7] • 0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] • 10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp • 11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp • 12 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] • ++ Shivering OOO.esp • 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp • 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp • 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp • 16 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp • 17 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp • ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 19 Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp • 1A Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp • 1B EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.3.5] • 1C Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp [Version Final] • 1D Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp • ++ Symphony of Violence.esp • 1E MIS.esp • 1F MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp • 20 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp • 21 Storms & Sound.esp • 22 WindowLightingSystem.esp • 23 AliveWaters.esp • 24 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp • 25 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp • 26 Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp • 27 Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp • 28 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp • 29 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp • 2A RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.7] • 2B RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5] • 2C RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.7] • 2D Living Economy.esp • 2E Living Economy - Items.esp • 2F DLCHorseArmor.esp • 30 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] • 31 DLCVileLair.esp • 32 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] • 33 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp • 34 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 35 DLCSpellTomes.esp • ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] • ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp • 36 XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp • 37 Armamentium female.esp • 38 DLCThievesDen.esp • 39 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] • 3A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 3B KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2] • ++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 3C Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp • 3D Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] • 3E Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] • 3F OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] • ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 40 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp • 41 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] • 42 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp • 43 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] • 44 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] • ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] • ++ OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp [Version 0.5] • ++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0] • ++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0] • ++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35] • 45 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] • 46 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 47 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] • ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2] • ++ FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] • 48 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 49 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 4A Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 4B Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • 4C Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.40Alpha] • 4D TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c] • 4E TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c] • 4F TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c] • 50 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c] • ++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c] • ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] • ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01] • ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35] • 51 Fransfemale.esp • 52 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] • ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] • 53 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp • 54 Amaterasu no Yume.esp • 55 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp • 56 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] • 57 DLCfrostcrag.esp • 58 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp • 59 Knights.esp • 5A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] • 5B EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp • 5C TotF.esp • 5D The Lost Spires.esp • 5E Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] • ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3] • 5F Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] • ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] • ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] • 60 AutoBookPlacer.esp • 61 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.1] • 62 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp • 63 ImprovedSoulgems.esp [Version 1.11] • 64 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] • 65 PersuasionOverhaul.esp • ++ Short Grass V3.esp • 66 Enhanced Vegetation [110%].esp • 67 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] • 68 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90] • 69 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] • ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80] • ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89] • ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89] • ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] • 6A SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] • ++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70] • ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84] • ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83] • 6B MidasSpells.esp • 6C RenGuardOverhaul.esp • 6D DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp • ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86] • 6E Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5] • ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78] • ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.78] • ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp • 6F bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D] • 70 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] • ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] • ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] • ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] • 71 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] • 72 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] • 73 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV] • ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U] • ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] • ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10] • ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.] • 74 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D] • ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV] • 75 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D] • ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] • 76 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993] • 77 MRP - Autosaving.esp • 78 MRP - Cant Equip Item.esp • 79 MRP - Fast travel unavailable.esp • 7A MRP - Horse stabled outside gate.esp • 7B MRP - Loading area.esp • 7C MRP - Not enough charge.esp • 7D MRP - Quickloading.esp • 7E MRP - Quicksaving.esp • 7F MRP - You find nothing of use.esp • 80 MRP - You successfully harvest.esp • 81 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] • ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] • 82 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp • 83 CastleWestWeald.esp • 84 Get Wet.esp • ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] • 85 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'm thinking COBL Races might be the culprit. Did your PC use a custom race? Try adding that mod back. If that does not work, try adding back the others. • ArmamentariumLL.esp <-- This mod should only alter leveled lists, if you still have Armamentarium installed. That means that no content is missing from the game with its removal. Removing it should be fine. • ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp <-- The same applies to other plugins that only modify the leveled lists and do not add content. • ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp • bgBalancingEVNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp <-- Removing this added content, so this should not cause any problems either. • Cobl Races.esp <-- This could cause problems, especially if it was loading after RBP. If your PC or another character in your save depends on its races (formIDs) removing this could cause crashes immediately upon load. • EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp <-- This does not add new content. Removing it should be fine. • EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp <-- The same applies here. • EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp <-- The same applies here. • MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp <-- The same applies here. • MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp <-- The same applies here. • OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp <-- The leveled list modifier only argument applies here. • TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp <-- This is another LL plugin. These last two, if any LL mod could cause problems, would be more likely to have complications, but I doubt it. Just make sure you rebuilt your Bashed Patch and re-run TES4LODGen. Try adding back the COBL plugin. You may need to change races for your PC or something. Remember to save while in the showracemenu menu and reload that save, so that your stats are not reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearofshorts Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 I think the problem is that the game crashes no matter whether I load a game or start a new one. Thanks once more for your suggestions, but they didn't work. :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Please, post your updated load order: Right-click on 'File' > List Mods... Also, delete your Oblivion.ini again to eliminate the corrupt INI possibility while troubleshooting this. Games do not just crash for no reason. Have you tried restoring our mod list to the way it was for that older save. In other words, when you do 'Diff Masters' on that save, it should not list any added or removed masters. Have you tried launching with that configuration again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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