Crashing everytime at Cheydinhal?

[finestanonymous]

Hey guys,

I have this really annoying problem with my game that I have had for a while now, I have tried to fix it myself but nothing seems to work... either that or I just dont know enough about the problem to be able to fix it. My problem is with Cheydinhal... whenever I enter the city or even attempt to my game always crashes and I mean *always* this means I cant continue with the questline for the dark brotherhood among other things... its pretty game breaking, I suspect it may be to do with my load order or perhaps better cities? I dont know.

 

Either way I was hoping someone could help me with this issue? I will post my load order down below if anyone would like to look through it.

 

 

I have a rather long load order list... sorry :tongue:

Oblivion.esm
Hair Style Master.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
X.Dryads.GotF.esm
DremoraCompanion.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Children of Cyrodiil.esm
Fort_Cooper.esm
ScreenEffects.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Falling Leaves.esp
BerserkArmorsandClothes.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
Inebriation.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
PortableAltars.esp
Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp
RTT.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
Cosmetic Compilation - No NPC Changes.esp
Capucine's Aquamer Race.esp
Slof's Snow Leopard Race.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Get Wet v0.92.esp
SylvanArmor.esp
NexonsArmoryENG.esp
PetsOfChorrol.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
AbyssDemon.esp
Slof's Drow Race.esp
36Sermons-Miltiades.esp
Warcraftelf.esp
NUNightelf.esp
CM_Better Wine.esp
GW71_Life_Detect.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
Slof's Extra Horses.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
Side's Sailing Ships.esp
ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp
EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
Jagnot-SI-Bliss Aquaduct House.esp
EnchantmentRestore.esp
Arborwatch.esp
Castle_Knightstone.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Slof's Drow Stuff.esp
DM_LucienCompanion.esp
AvaiRii_UnderwaterHome.esp
ActorsInEmotions.esp
GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
ImprovedSigns.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
Anoicaar.esp
Castle_Highrock.esp
New Vampire Feeding Sound.esp
ScreenControls.esp
Vvardenfell_Imports.esp
Griffes Shendhai.esp
Anvil_MorningGloryBetterCities_Mixed.esp
Castle_Almgard-V2.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Regrow_Nirnroots.esp
Alluring Potion Bottles.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Book Jackets.esp
Sewer_Mansion.esp
CTAddPose_osr1.esp
CTAddPose_osr3.esp
CTAddPose_osr2.esp
Maigrets House Cats.esp
Enchantment Enhanced.esp
X.Races.Comp.esp
Merged Armour Plugin.esp
Dremora Mortal.esp
X.Deus.Obscurus.esp
_Ren_Strangers.esp
Slof's Better Bodies.esp
Nephilim.esp
BlackMarshHall.esp
Rainbows.esp
X.Falmer.esp
Wiedergaenger Race.esp
TheUndying.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp
Trokturian Cow.esp
Vaernlor Manor.esp
Tsaesci.esp
Kaleencolors.esp
X.Eleionomae.esp
00TheEagle.esp
Tal'Ratha.esp
Neo_Ahrum_race.esp
NorthernSuthay.esp
Plate Armor Plus - Woman's Move Edition.esp
NaRae Pose - 01.esp
No Sun Damage v1.0.esp
Vampiric Affiliation.esp
Sno_DarkClub.esp
LanchanceV3.esp
Nightmist Manor.esp
SpreadingVampirism_NoSecondaryInfection.esp
Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp
CurseOfHircine.esp
CoH Spawn Rates Increased.esp
CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp
CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp
werewolf faction.esp
AssassinsCreed2EziosGear.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
SilverPhoenixArmor.esp
House Sai'tereth.esp
HST Patch-COBL.esp
Whispered Warning.esp
strotisUseableDaedricStatues.esp
RetburyVillage.esp
DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
AranMathi.esp
LadyLis_Isles_Loft_RC4-EV.esp
NaRae Pose - 02.esp
CoC NPCs and Clothes.esp
Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp
Better Benirus Manor.esp
Circ Vamp Aesthetics.esp
Theryon.esp
Blissful_Dreams.esp
Pitcher Plant and Lily Ingredients.esp
StrangersRefine.esp
A0SC-Ushnars Hound Fix.esp
NewSheothManor.esp
Blue Moon Hall.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Better Bell Sounds.esp
Fort_Cooper.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Lush & Gaudy Aurora Borealis.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
Storms & Sound.esp
Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
SpiderMorphRace.esp
black creak cabin.esp
Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp
OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
Better Cities .esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Underwater.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
LithiansNatureOfTheBeastModBeta.esp
Dark_Seducer_and_Golden_Saint_Race.esp
BWs Argonian Hair.esp
AIRrace Evy.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
HTBSpookyHouse.esp
DremoraCompanion.esp
Housewives v101.esp
LandMagicPatch.esp

 

 

Bear in mind that if you dont recognise some mod names thats because some of the mods in my load order are my own and I also cant edit the bottom of my load order as I have some mods in a very delicate balance so they can work.

 

 

I really hope someone could help me with this problem, I would really appreciate it.

 

Thanks :smile:

[Executor64]

not close to being an expert here, but my load order sorted by BOSS doesn't look anything like that (the mods i use from your list that is)

if you own your own mods, why don't you report them to BOSS so it knows where to put them

 

other that that i cant tell you anything that you don't already know, like anything altering

the city has potential of doing that, as well as any mod with not enough play testing by ppl (those vampire mods for example)

Maybe it's dirty edits or something, cleaning all mods is relatively fast...

as im stuck with an error myself

hope you get yours solved

Edited October 16, 2014 by Executor64

[finestanonymous]

not close to being an expert here, but my load order sorted by BOSS doesn't look anything like that (the mods i use from your list that is)

if you own your own mods, why don't you report them to BOSS so it knows where to put them

 

other that that i cant tell you anything that you don't already know, like anything altering

the city has potential of doing that, as well as any mod with not enough play testing by ppl (those vampire mods for example)

Maybe it's dirty edits or something, cleaning all mods is relatively fast...

as im stuck with an error myself

hope you get yours solved

 

Hey thanks for the reply,

I dont use boss as I cant get along with it :P and also I dont know how to clean dirty edits... I downloaded tes4edit and looked at how to clean dirty edits but it seems very complicated... I dont know what mods to clean or not clean and I dont want to make my problem worse :(

[Executor64]

Until you get a more experienced evaluation of the problem:

 

So personal advice, BOSS is the best way to build your load order. Im sure you know how it works, but

also there are some options to make it recognize your mods in the future (and you can always run it, and then modify the load order after BOSS put everything in the ideal place)

 

As for tes4edit, its pretty simple to use, a 2 step thing, as shown in the video below (the vid is slooow)

 

 

 

 

 

But in order to know which mods are dirty you need... you guessed from the video above....BOSS (the report boss gives you after it sorts your mods has the info on what mod is dirty)

Still expert opinion needed here for the actual load order, but i can tell you right now boss can make your life a bit easier

Edited October 16, 2014 by Executor64

[finestanonymous]

Until you get a more experienced evaluation of the problem:

 

So personal advice, BOSS is the best way to build your load order. Im sure you know how it works, but

also there are some options to make it recognize your mods in the future (and you can always run it, and then modify the load order after BOSS put everything in the ideal place)

 

As for tes4edit, its pretty simple to use, a 2 step thing, as shown in the video below (the vid is slooow)

 

 

 

 

 

But in order to know which mods are dirty you need... you guessed from the video above....BOSS (the report boss gives you after it sorts your mods has the info on what mod is dirty)

Still expert opinion needed here for the actual load order, but i can tell you right now boss can make your life a bit easier

Aww ok I cave in lol, I will try to use BOSS again just gotta edit the lower portion of the load order because those mods wont work if they are not where they are.

 

Thank you so much for your help, hopefully this fixes my problem.

 

Hope you get your problem solved.

[finestanonymous]

Hiya I couldnt figure out how to clear the mods but I used BOSS to reorganize my load order and its made it worse... Im now getting a Oblivion:Oblivion.exe application error everytime I open the main gate to Cheydinhal, the error message says this :

 

" the instruction at 0x00776dba referenced memory at 0x00000000 the memory could not read."

 

:(

[Legotrash]

I know I'm too late but still,forget about boss,it's not fail-proof (and I didn't even know that boss can cause a problem like yours to begin with). I haven't tried loot but personally I tweak my load order by myself. If you had load order problems check this out Load Order - TESCOSI . Opinions differ of course and I know there's plenty of people who use boss but I think it's better arranging your load order yourself,just like you're modding your game yourself (while learning from others of course).

 

If you'll get things as they used to be,try to remember if any of your mods do any of the following:

1.Change Cheydinhal

2.Change its NPCs

3.Adds new NPCs to the city

 

^These are for starters :P ,I'll edit this if I can think of anything else. Also get ConScribe . By the way,have you tried waiting a few in-game days and then try to get in the city?

[Executor64]

hi again

well BOSS doesn't know your mods if there is no info uploaded on your mods

(thus my suggestion to use boss then manually move the stuff you made yourself)

 

BUT turns out boss is obsolete now :O

bben46 said now there's a better tool called LOOT by the same team that made boss! Link below

http://loot.github.io/

 

edit: you do use OMM or Wrye bash?

When i say manually move mods i mean move them while in OMM and Wrye Bash (as data files on launcher simply put - sucks)

Edited October 18, 2014 by Executor64