KnightRangersGuild Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37285/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatLuke Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37285/? That mod doesn't any of the things requested in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatLuke Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 There's a current mod in progress that is quite similar to the idea I had for this mod. It's not as big in scope, but it's the best I've seen so far. http://chorrol.com/forums/index.php?s=688bfd3722c8b40e922bfafec8127a27&showtopic=5663&st=40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeduke Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) not sure if this strain is still running but this is what google gave me so Is there a mod that makes bandit groups of orcs that also have trolls and giants with them? also send reply to ttworldduke at gmail Edited August 26, 2015 by yeduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbymanga Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 not sure if this strain is still running but this is what google gave me so Is there a mod that makes bandit groups of orcs that also have trolls and giants with them? also send reply to ttworldduke at gmailum, Trolls are savage gorilla like animals in the Elder Scrolls. They're not exactly going to be "teaming up" with a group of Orcs. Not to mention Giants are more solitary, tending to themselves. Maybe you could have a group of Orc-Bandits who trick you into heading into a gladiator pit where they set loose some caged Trolls onto you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrClay Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 wow I have yet to play as an orc but reading this mod request makes me wish it was already done so I can start a new game as an orc character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpaceShuttleChallenger Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) If you want to do an orcish stronghold by the book, you're setting yourself to shut a lot of potential players out of this mod. And I mean a lot. Like, your character is going to have to be an orc, specifically a male orc, and not one that's very young or very old, and he'll have to have an interest in wives and upholding traditional orcish lifestyles, so probably he's going to have to be a straight warrior/barbarian class who's too hard-core even to use restoration magic, and he's not going to run around exploring Skyrim when he's supposed to be at home protecting his stronghold. And if the mod requires you to build a harem of wives in order to complete the quest, you might as well slap a big old "No Girl Gamers Allowed" sign on the front cover of the mod, which from my perspective, is a problem. That said, there's really no reason an orc stronghold can't be run differently than the ones we see in Skyrim. Canonically, orcs do accept non-orcs as one of their own if that non-orc is able to prove themselves worthy, and even though orcs are the primary followers of Malacath, Malacath himself doesn't seem to have racist or sexist inclinations. Indeed, in The Cursed Tribe, he goes as far as to praise the player as the only person who is worthy of his recognition, even if the player is a female breton mage standing in a crowd of true-born orcs. So as far as I'm concerned, the only thing Malacath is concerned about is whether or not someone has the strength and honor to uphold his principles. After all, if someone has the guts to challenge a chief and defeat him in battle, what's the stronghold going to do? Deny her the title she rightfully won in combat? Use underhanded methods to force her off the throne? Good luck getting that by Malacath. At the end of the day, the chieftain of an orc stronghold upholds his position by force, so whoever has the strength to maintain rule will do so, and whoever doesn't have the strength is going to shut up and deal with it, traditions be damned. At most, satisfying lore would consist of having to smack the bujeebus out of a few extra challengers in order to prove once and for all that you're chief whether anyone likes it or not. Edited August 28, 2015 by TheSpaceShuttleChallenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbymanga Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) If you want to do an orcish stronghold by the book, you're setting yourself to shut a lot of potential players out of this mod. And I mean a lot. Like, your character is going to have to be an orc, specifically a male orc, and not one that's very young or very old, and he'll have to have an interest in wives and upholding traditional orcish lifestyles, so probably he's going to have to be a straight warrior/barbarian class who's too hard-core even to use restoration magic, and he's not going to run around exploring Skyrim when he's supposed to be at home protecting his stronghold. And if the mod requires you to build a harem of wives in order to complete the quest, you might as well slap a big old "No Girl Gamers Allowed" sign on the front cover of the mod, which from my perspective, is a problem. That said, there's really no reason an orc stronghold can't be run differently than the ones we see in Skyrim. Canonically, orcs do accept non-orcs as one of their own if that non-orc is able to prove themselves worthy, and even though orcs are the primary followers of Malacath, Malacath himself doesn't seem to have racist or sexist inclinations. Indeed, in The Cursed Tribe, he goes as far as to praise the player as the only person who is worthy of his recognition, even if the player is a female breton mage standing in a crowd of true-born orcs. So as far as I'm concerned, the only thing Malacath is concerned about is whether or not someone has the strength and honor to uphold his principles. After all, if someone has the guts to challenge a chief and defeat him in battle, what's the stronghold going to do? Deny her the title she rightfully won in combat? Use underhanded methods to force her off the throne? Good luck getting that by Malacath. At the end of the day, the chieftain of an orc stronghold upholds his position by force, so whoever has the strength to maintain rule will do so, and whoever doesn't have the strength is going to shut up and deal with it, traditions be damned. At most, satisfying lore would consist of having to smack the bujeebus out of a few extra challengers in order to prove once and for all that you're chief whether anyone likes it or not. I feel like the "must be inclusive" clause when it comes to mods is really restricting when it comes to skyrim. It's this MBI rule that actually ruins immersion. Like, say I'm playing an Argonian. I shouldn't have to go through the trials of joining the Brotherhood, since I could have been raised since birth to become an Assassin. Does that really make any sense that my character would have no recollection of what the Brotherhood is? Some stories really can only be told from the perspective of a particular race or gender. Look at that Orc woman you meet in Markarth, who left her stronghold because she didn't want to be the third wife to a warchief. There's character motivation that could never exist if that character was being written as a Breton or a Khajiit. But even then, yes you're right. Malacath himself doesn't care if his followers are Orcs, they're just his children and the most likely to worship him. The Orcs have their own culture, but it's never implied that Malacath and the Orcs agree on everything. The Orcs don't use magic, but like you said, Malacath didn't care that you were a Breton Mage, just that you had conviction to do what was needed while a true Orc was nothing but a cowardly backstabber. But how about this for a mod, you the player find an Orc stronghold, taken over by Foresworn rebels. They've slaughtered most of the Orcs, except for one, who sits drunkenly in a nearby village, feeling weak for loosing his home. When he sees the courage in your words, he agrees to fight at your back and help you take back the Stronghold, telling you about a secret back entrance to a mine that he knows of that you can take to kill them off. Once the foresworn are dead, you have a partially broken down Orcish Stronghold that you can rebuild and repopulate. You can bring your husband/wife from earlier, or even marry the Orc who you met at the Tavern if you want. You can then find others around Tamriel who would be honoured to join your Stronghold and fight for you. And as you rebuild the Stronghold, you can choose how you want to build it. Maybe you're a High Elf and you want to add Elvish designs to the houses and colours. Or maybe you're a Khajiit and you'd like to get nice soft sand to replace the hard dirt to make you feel at home. Or maybe you're an Imperial, and you want to establish a trade route to Solitude to sell Oricalcum to the Empire, mined through the large mine you used to slaughter the Foresworn earlier. Edited August 29, 2015 by deathbymanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatLuke Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 For those of you unaware, the stronghold building aspect of this mod has been completed since it was requested several months ago. The other aspects like recruiting orcs from around Skyrim and finding wives, etc isn't there yet. But the author intends to include a few quests in the future. Here's the link to build your own stronghold. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64038/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D64038%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D2702384&pUp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbymanga Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 For those of you unaware, the stronghold building aspect of this mod has been completed since it was requested several months ago. The other aspects like recruiting orcs from around Skyrim and finding wives, etc isn't there yet. But the author intends to include a few quests in the future. Here's the link to build your own stronghold. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64038/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D64038%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D2702384&pUp=1 thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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