Democrat Or Republican

[Vagrant0]

OK..

 

I willplay devil's advocate here...

 

I am seeing alot of "Not this person" but if not them then who?

Mc Cain has his whole "Bush's third term" vibe going, so really, once you look past the backing of Michael Moore, Obama seems to be the lesser of two evils with any chance in hell at the moment. I actually see any sort of "dislike for america" arguments actually working in his favor as far as being someone who may actually accomplish something benefitial to tne rest of us who are also sick of how poorly run the country is.

[Thanodai]

Yes, but I can't get past the "I hate America" sentimentality of Obama.

 

-T-

 

Edit: Hooray, 100 posts. A day that will not be remembered or live in infamy.

[Vagrant0]

Yes, but I can't get past the "I hate America" sentimentality of Obama.

But it isn't a "I hate America" sentimentality really. That's just his pastor, and aparently nobody seems to get the idea that the two don't necessary agree on those issues. He isn't even part of the campaign. Chances are that Obama wasn't even in attendance durring that one particular speech.

[freddycashmercury]

But see, it wasn't one particular speech. Wright preached his "die whitey" messages many times. Even if he hadn't, Obama claimed to have been close friends with him and attend his church for 20 years. You'd think he'd know Wright's personal beliefs.

[MajKrAzAm]

Black Liberation Theology is being misrepresented here, Wright isn't suggesting or inciting any violence against whites. He's not saying that blacks should kill whitey, he's saying that they should fight against white oppressors.

[freddycashmercury]

I'm not attacking Black Liberation Theology, I'm attacking Wright specifically. Though I do have my problems with BLT, Wright is the focus now. Wright once said, "Whites are potential humans, they have not evolved yet". That seems fairly racist to me.

[MajKrAzAm]

Freddy, you're quoting Farrakhan. As nuts as Farrakhan may be, it isn't fair to dismiss Wright as a racist just because the two are associated.

[freddycashmercury]

Ah, my mistake. Sorry about that, I get Farrakhan and Wright confused...... :pinch:

 

Eh, I guess Wright really isn't too bad. I do think the press has focused on this issue waaaaaay more than necessary, anyways.

 

EDIT: You know what? Nevermind. Wright is a bit extreme. Apparently Oprah left his church in the late 80's because his sermons made her uncomfortable....

 

EDIT EDIT: I dunno.... Nevermind. It's not a big deal, in any case.

[Jhaerlyn]

Neither --

 

The Democratic party has a long History of Mistakes-- Starting with ensuring the long life of Slavery and Racism in the US

 

The Republican Party has turned from the Party to defend the soul of the Republic, to the Party to defend the Pocket book of the Wealthy Elite.

 

... Not much to choose from.

 

 

... as for Wright ... what bugs me the most is how so FEW have actually listened to the entire sermon .... and certainly none have PUblished it...

 

 

For example, he gets accused of racism by Schnitt and others .... well, what is racist about that one snippet they publish, "God Damn America" ... is America only a reference to the White people?

 

Do people think that Rev. Wright isnt including himself in that Damnation? of course he is, he lives here. He's talking about that downward spiral that many of us see happening in our society ... It sure feels that our country is God-forsaken. I see the new crop of kids growing up ...and more and more of them have no interest what so ever in anything but their own happiness ... many of them even engage in social service ..for how it makaes them feel ...

 

now, i'm not saying this is EVERYONE ... but its a general malaise that I see spreading with each grade that graduates .... maybe I should teach in colleges and see if its the same there or maybe its just that these kids are young ... don't know ... How did I get on this tangent? :(