Probable Load Order Issue

[AhWinter]

Hullo you presumably helpful fellows. I recently downloaded quite a few mods (a half hour binge, honestly), one or multiple of which cause Oblivion to quit to desktop after I start the game before it reaches the Bethesda logo. I'm attempting to start it after deactivating mods one by one but, as you can probably tell from the following that will take a while. If any of you have some advice for what I should disable / uninstall / change the order of, I will give you one ascii cookie and my gratitude.

 

Oblivion.esm

bookplacing.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

za_less_NPC_conversations.esp

tag_NaturalWildlife.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

Days&Months.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Crowded Cities 30.esp

DecoratorAssistant v1.1.esp

Knights.esp

Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Thermae.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Spirit Blade.esp

Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

CuteElf11.esp

LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Brighter_Torches.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

ImprovedSigns.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Update1-9881.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

[Shadowfen]

Hullo you presumably helpful fellows. I recently downloaded quite a few mods (a half hour binge, honestly), one or multiple of which cause Oblivion to quit to desktop after I start the game before it reaches the Bethesda logo. I'm attempting to start it after deactivating mods one by one but, as you can probably tell from the following that will take a while. If any of you have some advice for what I should disable / uninstall / change the order of, I will give you one ascii cookie and my gratitude.

 

Oblivion.esm

bookplacing.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

za_less_NPC_conversations.esp

tag_NaturalWildlife.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

Days&Months.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Crowded Cities 30.esp

DecoratorAssistant v1.1.esp

Knights.esp

Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Thermae.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

300_Combat Sounds.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

_Real_Lights.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Spirit Blade.esp

Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

CuteElf11.esp

LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Brighter_Torches.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

ImprovedSigns.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Update1-9881.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

 

I recommend that you download BOSS and run it to reorder your mod load order if you have not done so already.

[AhWinter]

What is BOSS? I assume something that automatically detects incompatible load orders, I'm googling it now for download. Thank you for the reply, here have a cookie even though your response hadn't fixed it yet. (%)

[bben46]

BOSS is not perfect, but it is the best sorter available. You don't say if you are using OBSE, OBMM or whether you have the latest patch or not.

 

OBMM -Makes working with mods much easier http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2097

 

OBSE - Required for many mods - if you don't have it, and a mod requires it, what you report is what happens. http://obse.silverlock.org/

 

Latest patch, 1.2.9416 needed for many mods; http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patches.htm

 

Your first mistake was installing a bunch of mods without testing. Now the time you saved will be more than lost in finding out which mods are causing trouble. I recommend removing Deadly Reflex for troubleshooting as it can affect many things in the game. It should also be installed very low if not last in the load order.

 

Along with OBSE. any missing master (esm) will cause that same problem. If you feel your geek skills are sufficient, Wrye Bash has some tools that will help also, but it's not for neophytes. http://wryebash.netai.net/#Installation

[Shadowfen]

What is BOSS? I assume something that automatically detects incompatible load orders, I'm googling it now for download. Thank you for the reply, here have a cookie even though your response hadn't fixed it yet. (%)

 

Better Oblivion Sorting Software - BOSS

 

Here you go.

[chaospearl]

I can tell you right now that your game is crashing because you have installed "Let the People Drink COBL" but you don't have COBL installed. That esp won't run if it can't find the COBL master esm. I'd suggest getting COBL because it rocks, but if you'd rather not, then you'll need to use the non-COBL version of Let the People Drink.

 

Edit: I should have added more info since you're new to modding. Sorry! COBL = Common Oblivion LIbrary. It's basically a big bunch of graphics and items that you install once and a whole bunch of different mods make use of them. Anything that says "requires COBL" or "COBL version" or "COBL compatible" means you need to have COBL installed or the mod is going to crash on startup. Almost all mods that make use of COBL also have a normal non-COBL version, but as I said, I'd really recommend getting COBL.

 

More edit: Where's my cookie?

 

Another edit: Don't feel too badly about the downloading and installing binge. There isn't a single soul here who hasn't done the same thing at one time or another. Most of us only know better precisely because we make the same mistake and then had to spend hours fixing it, the same way you are now. And some of us know better yet continue to do it anyway... (whistles innocently)