Zetsuboketti Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I have run into an odd problem where any NPC, whether added by a mod or not, clips or falls through the bed or bedroll on which they're sleeping anytime they shift positions (i.e. roll over). Basically the NPCs are still in the game but they are not on top of the bed itself; more like in it. A couple of days ago, I used TES4Edit to clean some plugins and used Gecko to merge a few clothes mods and another merge containing weapons, but the cleaning and the merging did not seem to have negatively affected anything. The problem just started today and my most recently installed mods are Rhianna Goddess Companion, Kvatch Rebuit, Vypers Zero Bounty and Infamy Spells, Birthsign jewelry, Full Soul Gem Enchanting, Okari Temple, and Hentai's Schoolgirl Uniform Collection. Thanks in advance for any assistance you guys can provide. Here's my load order: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Silgrad_Tower_T.esm 02 Windfall.esm 03 ScreenEffects.esm 04 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4.1] 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 06 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 07 CM Partners.esm 08 Toaster Says Share v3.esm 09 HorseCombatMaster.esm ** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp ** Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0 Vwalk.esp 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 0B Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp 0E EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.3.5] ++ EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp [Version Final] ++ Better_Water-1830.esp 0F WindowLightingSystem.esp 10 BookTrackerOBSE.esp 11 VanityCameraSmoother.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ++ FGPorter_nofollow.esp 12 MiscTracker.esp [Version 1.1] 13 My Voice Extender.esp 14 personality_idles4.esp 15 P1DlookHereYou.esp 16 PTWeaponValues.esp 17 RealitySpectre'sBetterPotions.esp ++ Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp [Version 1.01] ++ shiveringislesdoorusable.esp 18 Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp 19 Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1] 1A Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp 1B DLCHorseArmor.esp 1C DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 1D DLCOrrery.esp 1E DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] ** DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp 1F DLCVileLair.esp 20 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 21 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 22 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ** DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp 23 DLCSpellTomes.esp 24 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 25 1AlexScorpionSneakingSuit.esp 26 alllll61-Saint Silver armor.esp 27 Arynns-Heavenly-Sword_hottest.esp 28 Blue and White.esp 29 BlackLuster.esp 2A KDDwemerSpectacles.esp 2B Nicos Scimitars Back.esp [Version 1.61] 2C PTArtifacts.esp 2D SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp 2E Slof's Boners! v5.esp 2F superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp 30 Unlimited Wear.esp 31 BleachOverhaul.esp 32 TGND Fantabulous Formal Dresses.esp 33 HGECUndiesHCup.esp 34 TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp 35 DLCThievesDen.esp 36 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 37 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] ** DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp 38 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp 39 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 3A Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 3B Lock Bash Omega.esp [Version 1.5] 3C Ivellon.esp [Version 1.5] 3D Adult_BookStore.esp 3E BladeSong.esp 3F BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0] 40 Confession Booths by morerunes 2.esp 41 BridFetishGirl.esp 42 GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp 43 Gaenor in Dementia.esp [Version 1] 44 GwedenBrothel.esp 45 GwedenExpansion.esp 46 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp ** Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp 47 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp 48 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp ** Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp 49 EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1] ++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp ** EiAmod Vwalk.esp 4A M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp [Version 6] 4B M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp [Version 2] 4C MolagBalTreasury.esp 4D Skingrad_OpenRoad.esp 4E SN_Shivering_Shack.esp 4F Star's Rest.esp 50 TreasuresOfTyrV10.esp 51 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.4] ++ VHBloodlines 1.2 Vwalk.esp 52 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp ** Apachii_Goddess_Store Vwalk.esp 53 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp 54 Windfall.esp ** Windfall Vwalk.esp 55 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 56 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 57 DLCFrostcrag.esp 58 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 59 Knights.esp 5A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] ** Knights Vwalk UOP.esp ** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp 5B TOTF.esp ** TOTF Vwalk.esp 5C TOTF-EiAE Patch.esp 5D RTT.esp ++ Enhanced Weather - Ruined Tail's Tale Patch.esp [Version Final] ** RTT Vwalk.esp 5E The Lost Spires.esp ** The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp 5F Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.4] ** Vergayun Vwalk.esp 60 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.2] ** HeartOftheDead Vwalk.esp 61 bartholm.esp ** bartholm Vwalk.esp 62 Curseman's Anti Extinction Mod.esp 63 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp ++ AlmostNoRandomOBGates.esp 64 SaturationHealthIndication.esp ++ LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp ++ M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp [Version 1] 65 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 66 Quest Item Tag Remover.esp 67 RedBag - Friendly Animals.esp 68 Repair_Anytime-9384.esp 69 Scouter.esp 6A Sexlivion.esp ++ Short Grass V3.esp 6B SetsunaDummyTraining.esp 6C Silgrad_Tower_T.esp 6D StarX Vampire Deaths.esp 6E Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] 6F Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp 70 M.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.esp [Version 6] 71 Remove Extra Data.esp 72 SetEssentialActors.esp 73 RefScope.esp [Version 2.0.2] 74 SetBody.esp ++ Spells No Lighting.esp 75 NekhanimalLifeDetect.esp ++ Poison_Apples_as_Poison_Ingredient-3514.esp 76 IshMultipleApparelEnchantments.esp 77 SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2] 78 Deadlier Sneaking 1.1.esp 79 SM Bounty.esp [Version 1.22c] ++ CoblDeathFix.esp [Version 1.20] 7A kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp 7B 300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp 7C TRN One of the Gang.esp ++ GuildBetrayal.esp 7D ResetEmotionAfterCombat.esp 7E Enhanced_Hand_to_hand-2329.esp 7F Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp 80 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 81 Enhanced Mercantile Progress.esp [Version 2.0] ++ DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.76] ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ++ Khajiit Fix.esp 82 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp 83 Anwolf Race.esp ** _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp 84 Slof's Playable Xivilai.esp 85 Slof's Drow Race.esp 86 DemonRace.esp 87 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0] 88 IDKRRR_C_race.esp 89 Demon Hunter.esp ** Riddick Saber Claws.esp 8A Chocolate Elves.esp 8B Raven Elves.esp 8C Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp 8D X.Races.Comp.esp 8E Companion Postal Service.esp 8F 1em_Vilja.esp ** 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp 90 Companion Neeshka.esp ** Companion Neeshka Vwalk.esp 91 Rhianna.esp ** Rhianna Vwalk.esp 92 KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp 93 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp ++ bgHighElfSeamReducerFixEV.esp 94 No More Annoying Merchant Comments - Combined.esp 95 Remove_Persuasion_Game_Replies-3059.esp 96 Think to Yourself.esp ++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp 97 Get Wet Dark.esp 98 ScreenControls.esp 99 qazFingerSnap.esp ++ Faction Rank Fix.esp 9A Hentai Armors Retextured.esp 9B Capucine's Aquamer Race - Exnem.esp 9C de-nerfed staff of worms.esp ++ Faster Level Up x50.esp 9D Magicka Regen x8.esp 9E Max_Ability_Modifiers-2455.esp 9F More_and_cheap_training-8523.esp A0 TomeKnowledge300.esp A1 Triple_magicka-7315.esp ++ toothman's funny loadscreens.esp A2 Enchantment-and-Spellmaking-Unlocker-Unbalanced.esp A3 Regenerate_Magicka_Enchantment-3225.esp A4 JustDaedraShrines.esp A5 JustWayshrines.esp ++ NoInfamyCheckAtAltars.esp A6 Slave Alba(Elf).esp A7 DBSRebuiltCompleteFPS.esp ++ RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.esp A8 Dxcufgb's Complete Night Mother Quest.esp A9 Sheogorath Can Go To Jail.esp AA SI Bounty Spells.esp ++ SI Powers Adjustment Cheat.esp AB moon.esp AC Bounty spell.esp AD Less_blood_price_and_higher_max_bounty_payoff-8180.esp AE MRMHMR.esp AF Tail_Amulet_Converter.esp B0 RRElphintos.esp B1 VGA_SaintSeducer.esp B2 MQ Refusal - No Gates + Get Horse.esp B3 RoyalGuard.esp B4 Dark Raven Elves.esp B5 brumaguild.esp B6 SecludedStronghold.esp B7 Better Looking Dremora Playable.esp ++ Alternate Script Effect Icon.esp B8 Vswe_Skip_Start_No_Videos.esp B9 NO_Recoil_Stagger.esp BA SSHouseSI.esp BB max spell effectiveness.esp BC Crowded Roads Revisited_GoldRoad_10.esp BD Crowded Roads Revisited_ChorrolCheydinhal_10.esp BE Crowded Roads Revisited_GreenRoad_10.esp BF Crowded Roads Revisited_YellowRoad_10.esp C0 ComicBookSuits.esp ++ ReteroX_OBEvilSkeletons.esp C1 Knight of Skeleton.esp C2 AznarsVampiresLongCraving.esp C3 [Hwii]Lancer_Dread.esp C4 SteelMaidenArmor.esp C5 ICEGHouse.esp C6 Priestess_of_Dibella_HGEC.esp C7 mECB_Collection.esp C8 PsychosDisrobeSpell.esp C9 GUTSIndigoArmor.esp CA High Heels.esp CB HGEC Boots.esp CC OBForcePush.esp CD Summonable Gate Keeper 1.2 Master.esp CE SummonMerchantSpell.esp CF SRJhealCompanion.esp D0 kaleen.esp D1 ElvenPrincess.esp D2 The Weapon Smith.esp D3 Okaritemple.esp D4 Valhallamanor1.esp D5 secura_outfits.esp D6 Lady Fantasy.esp D7 HentaiSchoolGirlCollection.esp ++ betterskullofcorruption.esp D8 Vypers Zero Bounty and Infamy Spells V2.esp D9 FullSoulGemEnch.esp DA Birthsign Jewelry.esp DB Merged Plugin - Weapons 01.esp DC Merged Plugin - ClothesArmor 01.esp DD Bashed Patch, 0.esp DE Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.2] DF Streamline 3.1.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealtrecon Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I must say I am impressed that you've managed to load that many mods at one time. Maybe the game is being swamped with data and causing an error with the problem you specified. I can't really say what the problem is, but perhaps it could even be a problem with the core files of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetsuboketti Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Its not that difficult really. I just try not to use mods that edit the same part of oblivion and wyre bash pretty much handles the rest. I do really hope that the core files are not corrupt or anything though. because I'd hate to reinstall everything again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeldarb Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 If they do not fall completely through a bed, just fall into the bed a little, like when you walk on a carpet in game. I might not change it at all. You probably lowered the "level" of the bed and bedrolls accidentally I am not sure if it is a pathgrid or mesh issue. You do use Wrye Bash, so your problem could be fiIxed by deleting a few meshes to cause the beds and bedrolls to revert to vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetsuboketti Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 They are still "there" as the icon for pickpocketing/vampire feeding/talking is roughly where their body should be but doing anything other than talking causes my character to stand in place until I exit Oblivion which is a bit of a problem as I'm a vampire. As for your suggestion, can you tell me which meshes I should delete? I don't want to make the situation worse by taking a stab in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeldarb Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Place the bed and bedroll meshes in a folder so you can reinstall them and then delete them. Hopefully the game will revert back to the vanilla resources from the bsa's. If the beds do not fix themselves you still have the meshes to reinstall from the folder.The beds should be in Meshes\furniture- they are inside upper/lower and middle class. I am not sure where the bedrolls are if they have been added by a mod.I took a closer look at your load order >>>You may fix the problem with BOSS. clothing mods usually go into the upper half of a load order.<<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetsuboketti Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Alright, I'll try removing the bed files and adjusting the load order. I'll post with the results after I have a chance to check if it works. Thanks! edit: Unfortunately this did not help as the problem yet persists. I'll try to remove some of the many, many mods I have installed as well as restore some esp's to their pre-cleaned state but if there are any more suggestions I would rather try them first. Also, I'll add some pictures in case the earlier description is not clear enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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