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Hey everyone,

I just encountered / created a problem with my Oblivion installation, and I'm hoping you can help.

 

Some background:

I installed the new version of Better Cities and Unique Landscapes, and after uninstalling Better Cities, I tried to start the game to make a clean save, but it wouldn't even get to the main menu. I know how temperamental Oblivion can be, so I thought nothing of it, seeing as I wasn't in a BC cell anyway, and went on with my BC installation. I started the game, and it ran fine, but I realized that I hadn't activated all of the new BC files, so I saved, exited, activated those files, and restarted the game. This is when the trouble started.

 

From this point onward, whenever I load a save, the load bar progresses a very small amount, and then the game stops responding, and I have to quit it through the Task Manager. I have "rolled back" the versions of BC and UL to the ones that worked before, but the problem persists. I have deactivated everything but Oblivion.esm and loaded my oldest save, but that doesn't work either. I have also restarted my computer, but that didn't solve anything.

 

Are my saves corrupted? (Please say no.) Is there some problem with Oblivion.exe? Any help you can offer would be wonderful.

 

Thanks in advance!!

-GG

 

P.S. I just realized that it might be worth noting that I have mods that require OBSE, so I run the game through obse_loader.exe. I don't know if that matters, just putting it out there.

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Do a clean save update of BC?

 

Updating Saves - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=updating_saves

 

If you have Wrye Bash, right-click on the save and choose 'Diff Masters' to see exactly what all has changed since the save was created. You may have overlooked something.

 

 

Edit: You may want to try regenerating the Oblivion.ini as well, but do not forget to re-apply any important INI tweaks - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=know_how_to#RegenerateTheOblivion.ini

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I would do a clean save update, but as it stands now, I can't load ANY save. I checked the masters, and my currently loaded mods are exactly the same as my last functioning configuration. Also, I disabled everything but Oblivion.esm and tried to start a new game, and I can't even do that.

 

Should I just reinstall Oblivion?

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  On 7/27/2010 at 2:28 AM, GooeyGungan said:

I would do a clean save update, but as it stands now, I can't load ANY save. I checked the masters, and my currently loaded mods are exactly the same as my last functioning configuration. Also, I disabled everything but Oblivion.esm and tried to start a new game, and I can't even do that.

 

Should I just reinstall Oblivion?

You should not have to reinstall. Did you use Bash to verify that your load order is exact? Do you use TES4LODGen? If so, have you re-run it? Have you tried regenerating the Oblivion.ini or a clean boot? Updates of various kinds (i.e., Windows Updates or drivers) can sometimes cause these sorts of issues too.

 

Regenerate the Oblivion.ini - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=know_how_to#RegenerateTheOblivion.ini

Clean Boot - http://www.ehow.com/how_5331553_clean-boot-windows.html

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I did check the masters in bash, and it says that nothing's changed. Both regenerating the ini and a clean boot failed to solve the problem. I'm going to try reinstalling Oblivion and see how that works.

 

EDIT: A reinstall failed to solve my problem. I'm at a loss here.

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A full re-install should work. You just have to delete the oblivion folder after you uninstall. Just save your modfiles and rid of everything else.. I had to do this recently for a very similar problem. i downloaded a mod that changed the skeleton files and it ended up crashing each and every game. even a unmodded lvl 1 file save. I had no choice but to re-install,delete my oblivion folder and re-install. Just make sure to have bacckups for your esp files.I have backups for my meshes/textures etc so if you plan on a full re-install make sure to have backups to. this way you don't have to download every mod again.

 

I don't know if your issue is my issue but this is what worked for me so good luck and all that stuff.

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  On 7/28/2010 at 3:42 AM, GooeyGungan said:

I did check the masters in bash, and it says that nothing's changed. Both regenerating the ini and a clean boot failed to solve the problem. I'm going to try reinstalling Oblivion and see how that works.

 

EDIT: A reinstall failed to solve my problem. I'm at a loss here.

Your saves may be corrupted. If you move your Saves folder out of Documents\My Games\Oblivion, can you launch a new game successfully? If you have previously run all of these mods, the game should not suddenly completely break after upgrading. You should be able to rollback to a working state, if you kept the necessary files around. What happened after you regenerated the INI? Did the crash change at all?

 

Please, post your Dxdiag - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=know_how_to#PostYourDxdiag

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Ok, so here's my DxDiag information.

 

 

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I moved my saves out of my save folder, and that didn't help. Regenerating the ini didn't change the behavior of the crash, either. When I reinstalled, I did back up my mods and such, but I didn't delete my Oblivion folder. Would that make a big difference?

 

Thanks for the help!!

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  On 7/28/2010 at 10:18 PM, GooeyGungan said:

Ok, so here's my DxDiag information.

 

 

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I moved my saves out of my save folder, and that didn't help. Regenerating the ini didn't change the behavior of the crash, either. When I reinstalled, I did back up my mods and such, but I didn't delete my Oblivion folder. Would that make a big difference?

 

Thanks for the help!!

No removing that folder could make a difference. Where did you reinstall the game to? I would try playing with your hardware config as well. Pull out the controller, update/rollback drivers. I guess you should try a real clean reinstall (deleting both Oblivion folders) first, however.

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Well, it took all day, but I reinstalled everything (I think) and now it works. I don't know what exactly went wrong, but I'm just glad it's fixed. However, I've found some new bugs. All NPC's have black eyes and are bald. I read up on this issue, and it seems to come from conflicting "beauty" mods. The trouble is, I'm not using any of those mods. Is there any other source for this problem?

 

Edit: forgot my load order.

 

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