magickman12 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I hhave been trying to get permission from a mod author to inluce his mod in mine since it would be the cherry on top, so to speak, but I've received no answer for over a month after I've pm'd and emailed him. Now, I intend on giving him full credit for what he did (the mod is Bandit Hideouts where he added some abandoned houses in the wilderness), and I stated that in my request. I've no answer and I'd really like to put it on Nexus because in all, I'm very proud of all the hard work I did on it. I could put it out w/o his mod, but I feel it enhances it. I could also make my own hideouts, but I'm kinda anxious to get this out there as a beta version, at least, because I have more plans for it later. So my question is: is it a faux pas for me to go ahead and use it giving him full credit for what he did? I may never hear from him because Oblivion has been out a while now and people have moved on. So, what would you do? What is acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Some of this depends on what conditions he mentioned in the readme/description of the mod. If no conditions exist, they cannot be made, or the author cannot be contacted, the mod and all related content cannot be used. In cases like this, were there aren't any resources being used, just the same basic concept, you're almost always best off just doing your own thing from scratch and forgetting that the mod even exists. The temptation to steal scripts, NPCs, cluttering, or locations is just too tempting for some, and is just simply not worth the ban that would result. Often, doing things from scratch just turns out better since you learn more, and things are better suited to whatever purpose you had in mind for your mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaospearl Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 If you're talking about herosinger's Bandit Hideouts, here's what the readme says...Licensing/Legal===============I would greatly appreciate it if you would contact me and obtain my permission before re-packaging any part of this mod. ... so. It says he'd appreciate being contacted; I don't know if that means "you MUST contact me for permission" and he's just being polite about it, or if he intended for it to be taken exactly as he wrote it. I just... don't know. If you have made every effort to do as he asks and get his permission to no avail, AND you fully intend to give him credit for all of his work, AND you make sure to note in your mod's documentation that you will of course remove all of his work if he asks... then I think you're on the sunny side of "legality" -- but just barely. I say that because I feel that if he truly did not wish his mod to be repackaged under any circumstances, he would have said so flat-out. He had the opportunity to say "you must obtain my permission" and deliberately chose not to. Note that I'm no kind of authority; I'm just offering my personal interpretation of the words. If it were me, I still wouldn't do it. I think it's poor mod etiquette. If you want to be safe, polite, and earn your place as a respected member of the modding community, don't use it. Make your own as Vagrant suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magickman12 Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 Good good I've already begun working on one of my own hideouts, but I think I will release this first version without the hideouts and then the next version with. I want to make them player homes, anyway. Thank both of you for your good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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