dodo_borgir Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 *ALWAYS CHECK LIST FOR UPDATES!* Alright, so fallout crashes immediately on startup. What can one do in this situation?Is Bethesda going to solve this problem eventually? Here is a list of things that is definitely NOT the problem: - PC specs (i5, 8Gb 2333Mhz Ram and 4870) - ffdshow (and anything regarding codecs in general) - The version of the game (no version works) - Drivers (all up to date) - multi-core whatever fix (tried it several times with different combinations of other "working" methods) - Tried some fix (apparently intended for the same problem but for pirated version). It was called Skullpture. It didn't work (at least with retail) so don't bother. PS. Tested on:Windows 7 Home (the version which you can install multiple times or something, don't know what it's called)All versions (patches) tested with all drivers up to date and no third party codecs. Also all versions tested with and w/o "multi-core FALLOUT.txt fix"Vanilla and 1.7 tested with Skulpture piracy fix or something.Also tested Vanilla, 1.4.0.6 and 1.7 with "Windows LIVE" Disabler Mod Seems for now that the game is simply incompatible with some copies of Windows 7Which is actually really lame, since I've heard that those who download an illegal copy of the game don't experience any problems at all.Thank you Bethesda for firstly ruining the franchise itself (just my opinion, no need to measure dicks with anyone else, anymore), and now when years later by the hands of some hard-working GREAT modders the game actually starts to sound fun, they completely ignore Windows 7 users.I'm seriously starting to doubt the entire company's competence.Also, Fallout New Vegas just isn't a new game.It's another expansion pack with retail price (please prove me wrong Bethesda). - Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falloutperson416 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I have Windows 7 and the 64x bit system. I run Fallout just fine, but it freezes alot. There is nothing you can do about it. By the way, you bad mouthed Bethesda. the game was released BEFORE WINDOWS 7 WAS RELEASED. It's not there fault. They cant make a 7 version because there tied up in New Vegas. I have no problems with Fallout. I mod, enjoy mods, and expierince the great Fallout world. I would be glad to help as best as I can. Do you have any mods running currently? How many DLC's, if any? Give me some information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodo_borgir Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 I have Windows 7 and the 64x bit system. I run Fallout just fine, but it freezes alot. There is nothing you can do about it. By the way, you bad mouthed Bethesda. the game was released BEFORE WINDOWS 7 WAS RELEASED. It's not there fault. They cant make a 7 version because there tied up in New Vegas. I have no problems with Fallout. I mod, enjoy mods, and expierince the great Fallout world. I would be glad to help as best as I can. Do you have any mods running currently? How many DLC's, if any? Give me some information. I DID bad mouth bethesda. It's not like they couldn't just make a patch... Anyhow. Doesn't run, no mods, no DLC, no nothing. Just doesn't run with any patch or fix or anything...Looks like it's back to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. for me. I consider the stalker series to be superior to fallout 3 anyway.And yes I know they are two separate games. But Stalker feels like survival, as did fallout 1 and 2. But not 3...Thank god for modders...However, how do you know if your game is buggy?When someone:GOES BACK TO STALKER TO AVOID CRASHESyeesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falloutperson416 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well it seems to me that you need to improve your talkin when it comes to talking down. You know your game is buggy when it screws up. Download the latest patch for Fallout 3, download the Fallout Mod Mager on F3N, install it, and launch Fallout using that. Get back to me with the results of all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodo_borgir Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Been there and done that. but also... my ego?I don't really understand what you mean.Anyway, I'm totally allowed to be pissed at piss-poor support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Please don't blame others for your own shortcomings. I, as well as many others run fully legal versions Fallout3 on Win7 - both the 32 bit and 64 bit with no problems. I have fewer crashes and freezes than I did with WinXP. My FO3 version is very much legal, and is patched plus I have all of the DLCs and have not had any problems with installing, running or modding. I use FOSE and FOMM with no problems. If anything, people seem to have more problems with the pirate versions as they are not always compatible with certain mods or DLCs.(besides being illegal) You never know what you will get when you download a pirate copy - or what you won't get. You have the word of a thief that he is giving you what he says he is. Whatever your problem it is not the fault of either Win7 or Bethesda - that leaves ... As your profile shows just 3 posts, and 2 are here badmouthing Bethesda it seems you just signed up to whine. Instead of complaining about it, why not try actually reading some of the info we have here to help people with problems, (over 1.7 million served so far) then asking questions specific to your problem. Or, if you want it to 'just work' and never crash, go back to your console games that can't deal with mods. (That's why they don't crash) BTW, We are NOT affiliated with Bethesda or any other game maker in any way. We are here to support the gaming comunity by furnishing a place to post their mods and a forum to discuss the games and mods and help gamers with problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falloutperson416 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Thank you for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodo_borgir Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Please don't blame others for your own shortcomings. I, as well as many others run fully legal versions Fallout3 on Win7 - both the 32 bit and 64 bit with no problems. I have fewer crashes and freezes than I did with WinXP. My FO3 version is very much legal, and is patched plus I have all of the DLCs and have not had any problems with installing, running or modding. I use FOSE and FOMM with no problems. If anything, people seem to have more problems with the pirate versions as they are not always compatible with certain mods or DLCs.(besides being illegal) You never know what you will get when you download a pirate copy - or what you won't get. You have the word of a thief that he is giving you what he says he is. Whatever your problem it is not the fault of either Win7 or Bethesda - that leaves ... As your profile shows just 3 posts, and 2 are here badmouthing Bethesda it seems you just signed up to whine. Instead of complaining about it, why not try actually reading some of the info we have here to help people with problems, (over 1.7 million served so far) then asking questions specific to your problem. Or, if you want it to 'just work' and never crash, go back to your console games that can't deal with mods. (That's why they don't crash) BTW, We are NOT affiliated with Bethesda or any other game maker in any way. We are here to support the gaming comunity by furnishing a place to post their mods and a forum to discuss the games and mods and help gamers with problems. No reason to treat me in such an unsophisticated manner just because I only have 3 posts.It means nothing.I also would like to point out that your 2/3 statistic thing is just unfair.It seems you are making assumptions about things you have no basis nor reason for.However, I maintain my point that support for this game has been total ass.I just hope they get their act together for Vegas...And IT IS the fault of bethesda that the game fails to run even as vanilla.They should most definitely support Windows 7 since they've been selling DLC up to this day... I also get that it's easy to say that I shouldn't blame others since you don't have any problems with the game yourself. I admit that it is most likely not directly the fault of either Windows or Bethesda. It is something minor in between.However, I just think that it should be one of those two cleaning up the mess. That task shouldn't be left on the shoulders of hundreds of gamers that just can't get it to work, no matter what.Since Microsoft has clearly changed something in the OS's architecture which causes the application to fail.It is then the responsibility of Bethesda to clean up that mess via Microsoft.But what if they don't!?Well then they get these kinds of conversations on the Internet, and some people possibly skipping their next game.Nothing more, nothing less. Anyway, now that we got that out of the way.Let's get back to my original intention with this topic.Which was not to *edit*"female dog" :):):):)*edit* about this but to put up a simple list of what I've tried. Then everyone could identify with the problem. Nothing of the things mentioned above work.Trying out some other DIY "fixes" ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 IAlright, so fallout crashes immediately on startup.Also, the Windows theme changes to standard.Don't know if that matters yet. This is a new one on me. It would have to go into the Windows preferences to actually change it. My guess is you changed the resolution to play, and it was not changed back when it crashed. And the theme you had was not compatible with the changed resolution so it went to the default. If so , the changed theme is a result of the crash and not really a problem. What version did you start with? and what was your upgrade sequence? what version do you have now? Do you have the disk or steam version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieUK Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I have Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and everytime I start it up, it refers to Windows 7 Basic abiet it doesnt affect gameplay of anysort, it infact enhances it It didnt do this before tho I had to make a clean install losing all mods and data etc.Thats what propted me to move onto Oblivion and I have not looked back, I still play with Fallout now and again but I is planning more stuff to add. Tho My game is only base game and patched to 1.7 with a few Mods that are only esps.I will see what happens when I patch it with the other ones as Well as Adding the DLCs See if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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