Let The People Drink Problem

[shopsD]

Well I have a great working oblivion game - until I install Let the people drink. I just dont know how to place it in my load order.

 

BOSS puts it before better cities and oblivion crashes when loading a saved or new game.

 

I put it after better cities and oblivion works but the Market District height map is messed up (floating doors and other items e.t.c)

 

I disable it completely and the game runs fine. I just don't want to disable it.

 

I will list out my load order just note that I have confirmed the problem is let the people drink.

 

(One more thing Amulet of Soul and realistic fatigue cause problems - my ghost collapses and dies because he cant get up and return to his body. Any help please to tweak the realistic fatigue settings)

 

Oblivion.esm

GTAesgaard_2.esm

Cybiades.esm

Windfall.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

EnhancedWeather.esm

MD_Saddle_Master.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm

CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

ANB_Scrolls.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

UndiesUnderneath.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

EnhancedWeather.esp

Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp

Symphony of Violence.esp

AmbientTownSounds.esp

MIS.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

PCSoundHaerDalis.esp

Rainbows.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

The Loo.esp

bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp

nmDLTIC-1-6.esp

bDLTIC-1-6.esp

DLTIC-1-6.esp

Chapel Tithe.esp

Fishing in Cyrodiil.esp

kuerteeSittableRocks.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Portable Campsite.esp

Walk to Oblivion - OBSE.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Populated Prisons.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp

TFF_FantasyFigures_Base.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp

UU_Female_Undies.esp

Extinguish the Lights.esp

MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp

OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.esp

Ivellon.esp

Arena Armory.esp

Black Horse Mail Box.esp

AW_BHC_HomeDelivery.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

eyja.esp

GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp

GDS.esp

GTAesgaard.esp

GTAesgaard_2.esp

Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp

IC Atmospheric Shops Mod.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

KvatchCastleMakeover.esp

EiAmod.esp

EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

Malevolent.esp

Servant of the Dawn.esp

Side's Sailing Ships.esp

Side's Sailing Ships (Bathing).esp

Side's Sailing Ships (COBL).esp

TheElderCouncil.esp

TheStorytellersBrotherQuest.esp

thievery.esp

VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

VHBloodlines 1.2.esp

Windfall.esp

24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp

24HrArenaAliveLow.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp

FrostcragRebornCobl.esp

Knights.esp

Cybiades.esp

CybiadesDungeon.esp

TOTF.esp

RTT.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

MannimarcoComplete.esp

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp

bartholm.esp

Moriarcis.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Roleplaying Dialogues.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

BathingMod_InnsHaveTubs.esp

OWE&P.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealisticForceLow.esp

RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp

RealSleepExtended.esp

Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp

StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp

Pilgrim Spells.esp

Smite of Order.esp

TeachSpell.esp

MidasSpells.esp

ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Duke Patricks - Double Arrow Nock Shot.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp

OOO-Level_Stock.esp

ActorsInEmotions.esp

ANB_Gabby_Comp.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

Get Wet.esp

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

UnnecessaryViolence.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

StarX VVR_OOO_FCOM Patch.esp

OWE&P 4FP.esp

Reaper's Adjustable Oil Lamp.esp

The Amulet of Soul.esp

PoisonMachine.esp

English Silent Voice Fix.esp

CallMount.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

JolardHome.esp

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

za_bankmod.esp

CallMountStableMaster.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp

Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp

Better Cities - Thievery.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ranokoa]

I would have to say that your first problem is not having a problem before with such a giant mod list. Geez that's a lot.

 

 

 

 

1: Disable 90% of your mods, with the first 10% in the list enabled (do not disable ESMs) and make sure to never disable the mod in question. Play the game, see how it runs. If nothing out of the ordinary happens, disable that 10% and enable the next 10% including esms and the problem mod. Continue on until you either run into problems or not. (This is just good for narrowing on the "in case" factor)

 

2: After this is done and nothing has happened try enabling them all but this time disable 10% at a time.

 

If you are able to pinpoint the mod problems in those 10% you can easily go further from there. If you can't quite pinpoint the problem then what I'll do is something I don't want to, I'll download all the mods that I believe could be contributing to the problem myself and find the solution.

 

I'm kind of being rushed off so a lot of what I wanted to say will have to wait. Anyways, something that could be the problem, which happens quite a lot more than most think (or I think most think) is sometimes it's not quite that mod A has incompatibility issues with mod B or C alone, but what mod B and C changes when both are enabled DOES make mod A screw up. This is the main reason above all else I say to enable / disable these mods like this, in case it is another mod aside from Better Cities that is making it so that when Better Cities is enabled that you have your problem. I personally don't know a whole lot about either of those mods, ut this can potentially help.

 

Tell me how it goes, and if all else fails I'll just download em and do the whole problem solving. Sorry but I am really being pushed off to clean, and rightfully so (we have Game Night tomorrow.). I wish I could help you further beforehand but it will have to wait till later for me.

 

Be well, sleep well, fight well, live long.

~Ranokoa

 

Tell me how it goes.

[TodaY]

Let the people drink should be above Better Cities in your LO, so that better cities can make the changes to the IC it depends on. Also, get wrye bash, run BOSS, and rebuild your bashed patch.

[Ranokoa]

That sounds a lot less annoying than my solution. Do that! lol

[shopsD]

Let the people drink should be above Better Cities in your LO, so that better cities can make the changes to the IC it depends on. Also, get wrye bash, run BOSS, and rebuild your bashed patch.

 

Well as you can see I ran BOSS which did not solve the problem and I have wyre bash with python and all the files required. But have not installed it.

 

Inform me please how Wyre Bash will help

 

 

 

[Peteman991]

I got the exact same problem as OP. My load order is much smaller however, and extremely clean 99% stable so far 12+ hours. As soon as I add LTPD I can't load any save games.. it will CTD immediately. If I put it after BBC however, it works fine. Maybe this is some sort of conflict with the new BBC version 4.6.1?

 

It worked fine on my old install with these two mods, however, an older version of BBC.

 

Did you ever figure out the issue?