Need help with my mods please

[jacobDbruce]

Hey guys, I don't think I've posted on here before, but I haven't played FO3 for a while now because I couldn't figure out this problem, and I figure maybe someone here might have the answer to my problems. The specific problem is that after about 10 or 20 minutes worth of play it freezes up on me. I've tried at least 20 different load orders now, nothing works, but this is the load order I ended up with in the end, it's probably one of the better load orders I came up with, but it still doesn't work:

 

##### MOD FILES #####

 

Fallout3.esm

HairPack.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThPitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Destruction.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

Classic Fallout Weapons BETA.esp

Max Level 99 V2.esp

99+2.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp

Tailor Maid.esp

Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp

Tailor Maid PITT.esp

Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp

Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp

Tailor Maid ZETA.esp

DrivableMotorCycle.esp

JHB Workbench Repairs.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

EVE.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp

Destruction - Main.esp

Destruction - Main - Statics.esp

Destruction - DLC.esp

Destruction - DLC - Statics.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

BuildableBots v0.3a.esp

RobCo Certified Engineer.esp

Buildablebots Robcert. addon.esp

freecapa.esp

freecapb.esp

Auto Aim Fix v1.1.esp

custom_patch.esp

 

##### PACKAGES #####

 

16_Pin-up_Posters

Adult_Load_Screens

AEV_1_7

AEV_1_7G

Ambient_Wasteland_2

Blue_Pipboy_Deluxe_v1_3

BuildableBots0-3a

Destruction

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow v2

EVE_-_Operation_Anchorage

EVE_096_Beta_Main

EVE_096_Important_UPdate

FOIP_-_EVE_and_FWE

FOIP_-_Marts_Mutand_Mod_and_FWE

FOIP_-_Project_Beauty_and_FWE

FOIP_-_Weapon_Mod_Kits__and_FWE_Package

freecap

FWE - FO3 Wanderers Edition

FWE_Master_Release_Patch_5-03

HD_Resources_V2

Invisible_Trog_fix_for_DLC_Pitt

L3XDrivableMotorcycle035

Martigen's Mutant Mod

Robco_Certified_Buildable_Bots

RobCo_Certified_Engineer_V2_1_Beta

Sexy_Anime_Pipboy_Screen

SXYPosterBetaFG

WMK_Broken_Steel_Compatibility_Patch

WMK_Mothership_Zeta_Compatibility_Patch

WMK_Operation_Anchorage_Compatibility_Patch

WMK_Point_Lookout_Compatibility_Patch

WMK_The_Pitt_Compatibility_Patch

 

 

I don't think it's MMM, WMK, or EVE. I don't really know much about the problem, so I'm thinking maybe there's a way for me to get more specific details about the problem, because I really want to use most of these mods, and I don't really have the time to uninstall them all and install a few at a time until I find what is causing the problem because I'd have to play the game for at least 10 or 20 minutes each time before the crash would occur. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[SkullKnight]

So, is the game freezing or crashing?

 

Freezing is a common problem when running FO3 with a quad-core computer. Using the following fallout.ini settings generally fixes the problem:

bUseThreadedAI=1

iNumHWThreads=2

 

Crashing can be caused by a variety of things. Bad data files or load order can cause crashing, as well as running out of RAM. Automatic sorting is usually ok for load order, except for the mods it doesnt recognize. I see that you have a patch at the end to resolve conflicts. That should help with preventing problems as long as its done correctly. I personally recommend http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11336 for dealing with merging stuff and resolving conflicts. With a 64-bit OS, the large address aware patch can help with RAM-related crashes. It can be done on a 32-bit OS as well, but some other adjusting will be needed.

[jacobDbruce]

VERY helpful post SkullKnight, it is actually freezing up on me, and I have a quad-core as you may have seen in my profile. I'll try the ini settings you suggest and let you know how it goes. Thanks again.

[jacobDbruce]

Ok, I could only find bUseThreadedAI in my ini file, maybe you spelt iNumHWThreads wrong or something? BTW, I assume I should be editing Fallout_default.ini, is that correct? I tried it after changing just bUseThreadedAI to 2 but it still froze up on me, the music was still going though.

[SkullKnight]

The file you should be editing is "fallout.ini", located under <User>\Documents\My Games\Fallout3.

 

bUseThreadedAI is a boolean, so "2" would be an invalid value. You have to add the line iNumHWThreads=2 yourself, as its not present in the ini by default. Just press enter and add it right under bUseThreadedAI=1.

 

So, when done it should look like:

 

<other stuff>

bUseThreadedAI=1

iNumHWThreads=2

<other stuff>

[jacobDbruce]

Ok, I tried your suggestions but that still didn't work, so I spent some time disabling and re-enabling some mods. I seem to have narrowed it down to either the sneak bonus during storms module or the radioactive rain and snow module that comes Enhanced Weather. Thanks anyway for the help, and is it better I leave the INI as it is, or change it back?

[SkullKnight]

Ok, I tried your suggestions but that still didn't work, so I spent some time disabling and re-enabling some mods. I seem to have narrowed it down to either the sneak bonus during storms module or the radioactive rain and snow module that comes Enhanced Weather. Thanks anyway for the help, and is it better I leave the INI as it is, or change it back?

 

Im not aware of any mods that cause freezes rather than straight CTDs, but keeping the ini settings should be better than not using them (unless you did them wrong, of course). Without the ini edits, I was getting rampant freezing even on an unmodded game. Did you edit the right file and put the edits in the right place (theyre under "General")?

 

I am really not sure what fallout_default.ini in the install folder does, so I would suggest you change that one back. Only make edits to fallout.ini in the My Games area.

[jacobDbruce]

 

Im not aware of any mods that cause freezes rather than straight CTDs, but keeping the ini settings should be better than not using them (unless you did them wrong, of course). Without the ini edits, I was getting rampant freezing even on an unmodded game. Did you edit the right file and put the edits in the right place (theyre under "General")?

 

I am really not sure what fallout_default.ini in the install folder does, so I would suggest you change that one back. Only make edits to fallout.ini in the My Games area.

Well, I think it's maybe got more to do with a combination of mods. One of those two I noted, and another one which I can't be bothered pin pointing. It did seem to come good after disabling those two, however now I'm having some problems with missing textures at a certain area causing crashing, but I think I know how to fix it. As for the fallout_default.ini, I did change that back after you specified I was editing the wrong file. I'm pretty sure this is mod related though, because my game runs fine in vanilla mode.