Need help on FOWE

[heaheawai]

I know that the author is no longer updating this mod, but I do wish someone could make an update or fix for some bugs and wrong texture

 

I am experiencing some Trash bin got the wrong texture that makes it "see through"

http://i.minus.com/jbzS6qiOZQwEgg.bmp

http://i.minus.com/jbpa63E7VIvDp3.bmp

 

some water problem

http://i.minus.com/jehBKESurOrR5.bmp

 

some mistery shaped transparent things like glasses on the ground, mostly found indoor

http://i.minus.com/jLHw3tHYaQ3NA.bmp

http://i.minus.com/j3C9t3Uc0Mpqv.bmp

 

black vending machine

http://i.minus.com/jbj9CGSIPMyI7E.bmp

 

 

anyone got any suggestion what I can do with them? or what exactly file causing these so I can just delete them? Please help

[Purr4me]

I know that the author is no longer updating this mod, but I do wish someone could make an update or fix for some bugs and wrong texture

 

I am experiencing some Trash bin got the wrong texture that makes it "see through"

http://i.minus.com/jbzS6qiOZQwEgg.bmp<--I need to see what else you have running first

http://i.minus.com/jbpa63E7VIvDp3.bmp<--I need to see what else you have running first

 

some water problem

http://i.minus.com/jehBKESurOrR5.bmp<--I need to see what else you have running first

 

some mistery shaped transparent things like glasses on the ground, mostly found indoor

http://i.minus.com/jLHw3tHYaQ3NA.bmp<--represents ICE sheets, bad engine disign, a havoc problem

http://i.minus.com/j3C9t3Uc0Mpqv.bmp<--represents ICE sheets, bad engine disign, a havoc problem

 

black vending machine

http://i.minus.com/jbj9CGSIPMyI7E.bmp<--I need to see what else you have running first

 

 

anyone got any suggestion what I can do with them? or what exactly file causing these so I can just delete them? Please help

ENB's mess up the textures and nif / mesh files with FOWE

[Purr4me]

 

[00:00] Checking for Errors in [02] F.O.W.E.esp
[00:00] Error: record TXST contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TX05 35305854
[00:00] Errors were found in: 01lSnowENV [TXST:0200EE44]
[00:00] Contained subrecords: EDID OBND TX05 DNAM
[00:00] Error: record TXST contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TX05 35305854
[00:00] Errors were found in: 01lSnowENV [TXST:0200EE44]
[00:00] Contained subrecords: EDID OBND TX05 DNAM
[00:00] Error: record TXST contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TX02 32305854
[00:00] Errors were found in: 01lSnowMASK [TXST:0200EE45]
[00:00] Contained subrecords: EDID OBND TX02 DNAM
[00:00] Error: record TXST contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord TX02 32305854
[00:00] Errors were found in: 01lSnowMASK [TXST:0200EE45]
[00:00] Contained subrecords: EDID OBND TX02 DNAM
[00:02] All Done!

 

[heaheawai]

http://i.minus.com/juhVSOXyb71d.jpg

 

This is all mods I am using, and I have NMC too while I took those scrrenshot ingame, guess that is the only mod might conflict FOWE, so I have tried to run the game without NMC but still got the same result.

 

Is there anyway to fix them? Sorry I am totally noob about modding...

[Purr4me]

give me some time here, this is hard to do using a kindle fire on remote to my home, and the home PC is not so cooperative at the moment.

I had the first one installed and ran it remotely and saw the same things , then i saw the game had crashed. set reboot and connected and uninstalled the fiirst one ,now installing the performance one and will see if that one has the same issues. later on tonight, when I get how, I'll have a look at these things.

 

NMC should not have anything to alter things if FOWE is loaded underneath it as well as installed after it was installed, FOWE ...if used with nmm, will no doubt cramp your style a bit.

I am using MO so I have an advantage and do things very fast.( a few moments. )

[Purr4me]

your load order is screwed up...zero esp's ever get to be inbetween esm plugins. I don't care what takes place at game runtime or what others say nmm is capable of ,that plugin list is registry bound so that is how it will load. fix that first, secondly, please use the patches correctly, fellouts FOWE patch is sitting at the top where it will do zero good , look down..you see the word full any where?

 

do you know or understand what "FULL" means? it runs by it's self, no other additional data is needed, yet you have it there.

 

so.....fix the load order, get the plugins ion the proper places...I bet things will look a lot better knowing the game see's things correctly.

 

your game is all jumbled up.

[Purr4me]

from here, It I installed it in the blind and the results were a catastrophic, horrible out come, sorry, I need to attend to this at home.

yours put mine to shame. the mod is not set up right it seems for any instantiations, and I install all 3 parts too including the wardrobe add ons.

I have to get back to work.

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EDIT: @ home, checking things out, first found this.

1. [Record]
   Type: TES4
   FormID: 00000000
   Flags 1: 00000000
   Flags 2: 00000000
   Flags 3: 0000000f
   Subrecords: 7
   Size: 227 bytes (excluding header)
   
   [Formatted information]
   Main plugin header
   
   HEDR (The main plugin header)
   File version: 0.94
   Record count: 1754
   Unknown: 134121
   
   CNAM (Plugin author)
   Author: taylorsd
   
   SNAM (Plugin description)
   Description: Turns Fallout into a Winterized environment, changing the weather, atmosphere,buildings,landscape, and adding snowstorms
   
   MAST (Plugin dependencies)
   Master file: Fallout3.esm

I went down this road once already for some one else, a very long drawn out mess, had to do with a metro entrance I believe.

Currently, the data ,as is downloaded is corrupted. intact file but was in a corrupted state.

I will try and see if there is an easy way to fix it so you can do it.

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EDIT2. verify that you have what I have...which is next to nothing in the way of mesh files...and in the geck after making repairs to the plugin just so I could load it INTO the geck, I find it has duplicated paths file names for that vending machine at the spring-vale gas station. Now, I am going to extract only the needed data this mod points to and rearrange the correct file name path's and see if the bugs go away...if so, I can offer that as a patch as it it is from this game "vanilla"

instructions only on how to do it, no distributing the data. IF the author wants what I fixed, he or she can contact me for it, my pleasure. But, I won't upload their data. this is fair from where I sit..

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file requires statics, not containers as object targets, that's why there is a problem. containers have no textures. just at the bottom of the vault101 hill as you walk into spring vale, there is a Blue mail drop box, that's comes up as a static, where here, in this mod, it comes up as a container. this needs to be rewritten unless it is / was meant to show a black vending machine? and invisible eaten away drop boxes .but I seriously doubt there would be such a thing "indoors". it's all in the binary files codes, it did not matter about the extraction though that gave me better roads and things, crystal clear ICE too.

 

I am not going to rebuild this.

 

kitty

Edited November 20, 2014 by Purr4me

[heaheawai]

Thank you so much for your help! Please take your time!

I am also feeling so bad and so sorry that I am a totally noob about this, I don't really know how should the load order be, which should goes 1st? and goes last? and does it all mean there will be no fixing about those broken texture? I really have no idea how to use GECK to fix or rebuild anything...

Again, thanks so much, take your time!

Edited November 20, 2014 by redeye_9hk

[Purr4me]

I messed around tonight a bit with it but the code is .....well sort of way off base.

some where a few months ago, I had created a better copy of this mod, expanded it and corrected every bye of it I could find ,added into it a grand total of 1 gig of data. I repaired all the ICE forestland even went so far to start to promo it again... the problem is..it's not mine to do as I wish. so I burnt it to a dvd and put it away , it's now in a box somewhere in storage..across town.

right now, I am shutting it down due to very bad rendering bugs it is causing my other mods. the problem is, I am running vanilla software, it's not patched, it's not all hacked to bits with patch works and things.

it's 100% vanilla untouched data. in order to produce a working set of files I need for another project that has nothing to do with direct-x, I need Pristine software of known Origins running. I can't have guess works here.

http://s26.postimg.org/fuykg6m89/Screen_Shot120.jpg

Be cause I use MO, IT gives me the freedom to .."on the fly" install and test mods, impartially done and default.........if I sit here and try to match every one else...then it's not the same , any results would be void, "INVALID"

some screen shot I have prepared and am uploading to view are tests done with this thing in tow. havoc is the appropriate word for this engine.

Nothing but. ...how ever, the procedures may be out of your skill zone, it's daunting and you must have the knowledge to make it work correctly. one data bye in the wrong place is enough to stop the game from running.

that shot shows the ground, it's not white, where it should be white with other mods installed, but it's not "stable" so, the real ground is showing up, plus, the color of the trees and foliage are not correct either.

 

the dirty parts, they are removed as if you were to make a copy of the bad parts into a patch file By hand using fo3edit, and it does not matter which version, you just need access to the lines of code and know how of what to do with it.

 

once you hand pick out the bad stuff, , it's placed into an outside esp as a reliever, you remove these strings of bad code from the master file.

so ,you end up with the exact data that was out of order in a esp bellow the source, but is now IN order as a separate Entente which can be shut off and not even ran.

http://s26.postimg.org/8t0mtzimh/Screen_Shot102.jpg

this is a manually mind cleaning process, it's not automated ,you, the user are in control and make all the decisions as you should be doing with the tool any way.

that was from these:

• http://s26.postimg.org/4l5ul8h6x/Screen_Shot94.jpg

I have more but the internet is slow as a snail tonight. I have my phone charged up and my kindle fire charging up for tomorrow.

I'll be uploading shot to that off site gallery all night long at this pace.

• http://s26.postimg.org/aaqojacqx/Screen_Shot100.jpg
• http://s26.postimg.org/dvmk2ihah/Screen_Shot103.jpg

 

kitty

Edited November 20, 2014 by Purr4me

[Purr4me]

what it is I want you to look at is the surrounding areas of the objects that were once objectionable to you but now are being rendered correctly.

you might notice HOW the cell actually responds...."works" with objects within them.

http://s26.postimg.org/jos0pc3k9/incorrect_mesh_file_used.jpg

 

if the object in the world space is altered but is called up by any other string, thread, a piece of code that effect s that object, then the links / ref's cross data lines........a line of code can consist of just about any thing, but in this case here, it's effecting the lighting of that cells areas.

http://s26.postimg.org/fgx8gl24p/correct.jpg

 

It takes a long time to get the hang of this stuff...what's bad is when you get too used to it, and then get lazy.........then we end up with a whole lot of junk .rushed out the door just to make things happen too fast.

 

In the geck I repaired the correct paths to the "vending machine", it uses the static map as well as all the rest that go with it at that point in the games structure. If we remove an object from the game world / replace it with out having other data that it was connected too, then you end up with Junk ,CTD's in the cells as you enter them.

 

in the above shots, there it shows the exact file path.....Know this ,there is no files at that location for this mod to even use.

Hence why I asked you to check your packages, do you have these mesh files and are they in folders laid out in structure as shown here within the binary? do the paths match?

I doubt there is. it;s was made this way, I can only assume deliberately in order to render Black data and invisible mail drop boxes, to give it a winterized look. I don't believe any other after thoughts were done.

 

Hubris Comics area, that does need to be fixed, I'm not going to fix it because that data is from the anchorage DLC..and is missing substructure data that will prevent the DLLC from working, so, you walk under water that is really there instead of solid ground, in this case ICE.

 

kitty is here to say, "you want to impress me?", make me some real hons est to goodness roses for fallout 3's data base every girl can Enjoy.

Make me some real Bethesda data From THIS data base here using THIS software ,and this girl will be happy.

 

The underlying codes that are in all the files listed here are not all that hard to make. OR that hard to replicate and fake.

But forcing the engine to do work it does not need to do is tiresome, and very hard to fix.

 

porting in data from a Different binary assemblies is also bad too, I have caught most of it already and know why thing work and don't work.

there is a lot to modding any game, but with it comes responsibility to others so behave, act right, do the right things and good things come your way.

 

F.O.W.E - Fallout Winter Edition

A Game Modification for Fallout 3

~~Compatabillity Test~~
!!Rating Meanings!!
Pass = No Conflicts Known
Stable = Stable, with possible Unknown Conflicts
Minor = Known Conflicts But Will Still Work, possbile Crashes
Fatal = Your Game Will Definately Crash at some point


Tested on and created on Fallout Official Patch 1.1.0.35- *STABLE*
Tested on Fallout Official Patch 1.4.0.6 *STABLE*
Tested on Fallout Official Patch 1.5 * FATAL*
Tested with Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch version 1.5.022 and Unofficial Expansion Patches Anchorage and The Pitt- *STABLE*
Tested with Fallout Fake Patch 1.5.022-* STABLE*
Tested Conflicts between Major Mods and FOWE such as Fook,MMMRC2,CALIBR,XFO,FWE,EnhancedWeather-Rain, Fellout, WeaponModKits- *MINOR*
Modded with G.E.C.K. version 1.5.0.19........*FATAL* :)

~~Mod Requirements~~
Fallout 3
Fallout 3 DLC Operation Anchorage, installed and Anchorage.esm checked
Fallout 3 Official Patched Version 1.1.015 to 1.4.0.6
1.5 Gigabytes of Free Hardrive Space for F.O.W.E. Lite , 2 Gigabytes for F.O.W.E.
The minumum Requirements to play Fallout 3 as indicated by Bethesda
**DO NOT USE OFFICIAL PATCH 1.5 With This MOD~~

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What F.O.W.E. does for Fallout
turns Fallout 3 into a winter atmosphere

F.O.W.E..esp
-Changes over 5000 entries in Fallout 3
-Buildings given photorealstic snow texture mix
-Landscape given photorealisitc textures
-Grass,Trees, and rocks given snow look
-Distant LOD budilings and landscape given snow look
-Weather has a chance for Lite and Heavy snow storms

F.O.W.E. LITE.esp
-Changes over 3000 entires
-Buildings given lite snow texture look
-Landscape Given same textures as D:C Anchorage
-Distant LOD uses DLC Anchorage Textures
-Distant LOD buildings are not touched and are Default
-Weather has a chance for lite and heavy snow storms

F.O.W.E. Clothing Addon.esp
-Still a Work In Progess
-Beta Release
-Adds over 30 Winter Clothing Types
-Headwear, not working properly
-Scarfs not working properly
-Mask not Working Properly
-Power Armor Textures not working properly
Well What the Hell Does Work Then
-Trench Coats, Winter Jackets, Winter Coats, Flak Jackets, Full Outfits
Clothing additions take up body addon slots,necklace slots, Choker Slots
and can be used on top of your current armor. You can combine combat armor
and wear a trench coat, or winter coat or jaclet. Combat armor and Flak Vest
-Full Outfits are regular armor like combat armor and can be combined
-All clothing addons are given a moderate Armor Rating from 1-30 depending on
what type of clothing it is. Flak Jackets are given a higher armor rating than a winter coat, i.e.
-All clothing addons are placed strategically in leveled list as to conflict as little as possible with mods such as FOOK. Load This mod before FOOK if you want FOOK armor to prevail or load this mod AFTER FOOK, if you want it to prevail. Testing indicated that if you let FOOK override the armor, you still get a nice blend of my Addons due to how i placed the it in the leveled list
- ALL Addons are stil a Worl in progess, they will clip and look odd on some types of armor, like if you wear a trench coat with Power Armor....it will look ridiculous. so i am letting you know NOW that there are issues


F.O.W.E.-FelloutPatch.esp
For use if you use Fellout and want Fellout Lighting in F.O.W.E. This is based off FelloutFull.esp version 1.0.15 as it adds support for Enhanced Weather-Rain. So no need to worry you will have Rain and Snow if you use this and EnhancedWeather-Rain ver 1.1 or my RainAndSnow-ver2.esp
which uses the new weather system scripts. Just load Enhanced Weather-Rain 1.1 or RainAndSnow-ver2 BEFORE F.O.W.E.-FelloutPatch.esp

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Installation

I suggest that before you play this mod, that you create a backup savegame of BEFORE you played this mod, just incase. Make sure that this savegame is in an INTERIOR building such as Craterside Supply. You can use this savegame to go back to if you are having issues with my mod and want to disable it.

I also suggest renaming the folowing folders for easy uninstallation later if you
decide not to use this mod

Go to "C:\ProgramFiles\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data"
Open Textures folder
Rename Landscape to Landscape1 or just make a copy of it

-Installation Process
Extract contents of the .zip file you downloaded to Fallout 3 directory.....The default installation is "C:\ProgramFiles\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data"

If asked to overwrite data check yes to all

NOTE: Be patient when transfering, as these files are large and the process may hang. Windows will tell you the program has stopped responding, ignore that and let if finish the process. Depending on processor speed it may take a while.

FOMM is not required but makes things easier, regardless either load FOMM or Fallout 3 launcher open Data Files and make sure that F.O.W.E..esp is checked

Launch the game and play, i suggest loading this mod from an Interior savegame

If you want to do so, wait 3 days in an interior building to give weather scripts and respawn points enough time to load the new content for Clothing Addon and Weather, not required though

Uninstallation

Save your game in an Interior Building or you can go back and restore to the savegame before you installed this mod as i suggested.

Go into Fallout 3 default installation directory C:\ProgramFiles\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data

Delete F.O.W.E.esp
Delete F.O.W.E-LITE.esp
Delete F.O.W.E.-ClothingAddon.esp

Open Folder meshes
Delete Folder Snow
Delete Folder FOWE

Go back to Default installation Directory C:\ProgramFiles\Bethesda Softworks\Fallout 3\Data

Open folder Textures
Delete Folder Snow
Delete Foler FOWE

Either delete the landscape folder inside textures folder if you did what i suggested and either
renamed it or made a copy of it, if you did that, after you delete the landscape folder, rename
landscape1 to landscape or if you made a copy of it rename the copy to landscape

OR if you didnt do the above do this instead

While you are still in Texures folder
Open Folder landscape
Delete Folder Grass
Delete Folder Plants
Delete Folder Roads
Delete Folder Trees
Delete Folder LOD

Delete the Individual files that are in the landscape folder

asphalt02.dds through waterplanemuckpool_n.dds
There are 121 files total

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Compatibillity and LOAD Orders

FOOK has minor compatabillity if using the F.O.W.E Clothing Addon.esp
Modders i have used the caps leveled list to distribute my stuff in a minor way, but i have also
used NPC settler clothes, NPCTown clothes, and a few Mercenary and wastland levelled list
Load F.O.W.E-ClothingAddon.esp before FOOK.esp in you want to have FOOK armor and clothing
take priority over my armor and clothing, my armor and clothing will still be seen ingame, but not as much. You will see FOOK and F.O.W.E. armor and clothing together. Example; you will see bandit wearing FOOK armor AND one of my Trench coats.
If you load F.O.W.E.-ClothingAddon before FOOK.esp you will still see ALOT of FOOK armor, but more of my Armor and CLothing

MMM Load Before MMM, no conflicts known

XFO, FWE, WeaponModKits,CALIBR Load before or After, No Conflicts Known

Fellout F.O.W.E. uses different daytime and nightime lighting than Fellout, if you load F.O.W.E before Fellout, F.O.W.E. will change the Daytime and Nightime lighting and make it snow. If you load F.O.W.E. after Fellout, Fellout Lighting will take priority and it will NOT snow .
So use the F.O.W.E.-FelloutPatch to use my mod and Fellout together,
Load F.O.W.E. FelloutPatch after F.O.W.E..esp or F.O.W.E-Lite.esp
Make sure you DONT any Fellout.esp if you use the F.O.W.E.-FelloutPatch.esp, as it is Fellout.esp with Snow storms. Currently i will be using FelloutFull.esp as compatibillty to Fellout, but not with any future updates of plans of making a patch for FelloutSOTD.esp

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Credits

I wish to thank the following companies, authors, and programmers for contribution to F.O.W.E.

Dark0ne - MorrowindSource, TESNexus,Fallout3Nexus and for hosting my crap
TESNexus,Fallout3Nexus Moderators - For putting up with my crap
Bethesda -Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout3, G.E.C.K. ,DLC Operation Anchorage, guns with no holster
GSC Gameworld- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. : Shadows of Chernobyl meshes and textures
GIMP Developers - For use of GIMP http://www.flickr.com/photos/garrett/2733807768/
Alphax,amorilia,sacarrow,tazpn,throttlekitty- curent versions of Blender and Nifskope
scott"KnifeInFace"deon - Stalker Textures
WhatPayne - Stalker Textures
SOUNDPATH - Stalker Textures
toxa - Stalker Rookie Mesh SEE MOD http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5930
skingrad24 - Rain Script SEE MOD http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6170
CuteUnit - Rigging Tutorial For Oblivion
Admiral Shlork - For the orginal Idea and for Nuclear Winter mod
taylorsd - Stalker S.I.M. mod, Oblivion mods, Fallout3 Mods

Special thanks go to the following for helping me with my mods and frustration

Creatures of MMM - have been my test subjects throughout the years
Lucas Simms - For seeing if my Flak Jackets stopped Bullets
Fargoth - Test Dummy and Frustration Cushion

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Usage

Im not one if those anal authors, i can careless if you use this mod as long as its for Modding Fallout3, and NOT for commercial purposes. I hold no rights to the materials within.

 

 

Red roses......

Kitty B.

Edited November 20, 2014 by Purr4me