Borstal Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Every now and then the game will freeze up or just crash to the desktop and I think it might be an issue with my load order. Also the reason I have both weather mods installed is that in the readme for Xephys rain mod for it to actually rain you need the other rain and snow mod installed. (I also have no merged patch made - is this needed 100%?) [X] Anchorage.esm[ ] Fallout3.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorm.esp[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Rain.esp[ ] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp[ ] Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp[ ] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultskeletor Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Every now and then the game will freeze up or just crash to the desktop and I think it might be an issue with my load order. Also the reason I have both weather mods installed is that in the readme for Xephys rain mod for it to actually rain you need the other rain and snow mod installed. (I also have no merged patch made - is this needed 100%?)... I've not seen this before, but I'm pretty sure the Fallout 3.esm should be loaded before the Anchorage.esm. I'm assuming you are using the Fallout Mod Manager, so check the box for the Fallout 3.esm while your at it. ESMs should be grouped at the beginning of your load order; you have the Enhanced Weather and Dynamic Weather ESMs down in your ESPs section. Given how few mods you are using, a merged patch may not strictly be required, but I have to recommend it anyway. Once your load order is solid, it takes just a few minutes tops to generate a merged patch. Load up the mods you use in FO3Edit. Right-click one of them in the tree in the left pane. Select "Create Merged Patch". Give it a file name of your choosing, when it asks. Your merged patch will appear at the bottom of your load order in the tree. Close FO3Edit; make sure you save the changes to the patch you created, when it asks. Mark your merged patch to be loaded last in your order. That's all. That said, have you already ruled out performance- or machine-related crashes? I was getting occasional crashes when using Enhanced Weather, what I figured were performance-related crashes. My machine is pretty out-dated at this point. However, someone else in a recent thread here said he/she was getting crashes specifically from the 'Weather Sounds in Interiors' plugin for Enhanced Weather. Unfortunately, I never tried removing that plugin, so I don't know if that would have helped me. If the minor tweaks to your load order and creation of a merged patch don't alleviate your crashes, you might try removing that plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borstal Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 Every now and then the game will freeze up or just crash to the desktop and I think it might be an issue with my load order. Also the reason I have both weather mods installed is that in the readme for Xephys rain mod for it to actually rain you need the other rain and snow mod installed. (I also have no merged patch made - is this needed 100%?)... I've not seen this before, but I'm pretty sure the Fallout 3.esm should be loaded before the Anchorage.esm. I'm assuming you are using the Fallout Mod Manager, so check the box for the Fallout 3.esm while your at it. ESMs should be grouped at the beginning of your load order; you have the Enhanced Weather and Dynamic Weather ESMs down in your ESPs section. Given how few mods you are using, a merged patch may not strictly be required, but I have to recommend it anyway. Once your load order is solid, it takes just a few minutes tops to generate a merged patch. Load up the mods you use in FO3Edit. Right-click one of them in the tree in the left pane. Select "Create Merged Patch". Give it a file name of your choosing, when it asks. Your merged patch will appear at the bottom of your load order in the tree. Close FO3Edit; make sure you save the changes to the patch you created, when it asks. Mark your merged patch to be loaded last in your order. That's all. That said, have you already ruled out performance- or machine-related crashes? I was getting occasional crashes when using Enhanced Weather, what I figured were performance-related crashes. My machine is pretty out-dated at this point. However, someone else in a recent thread here said he/she was getting crashes specifically from the 'Weather Sounds in Interiors' plugin for Enhanced Weather. Unfortunately, I never tried removing that plugin, so I don't know if that would have helped me. If the minor tweaks to your load order and creation of a merged patch don't alleviate your crashes, you might try removing that plugin. Okay I will try what you have said but I read that all weather mods should be loaded last after FWE and other mods as it causes issues so I don't know if I should move the .esms up to the top of the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultskeletor Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Okay I will try what you have said but I read that all weather mods should be loaded last after FWE and other mods as it causes issues so I don't know if I should move the .esms up to the top of the list? They should be loaded last, but ESMs and ESPs should still be grouped separately. The weather ESMs get loaded last among the ESMs (, after FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm, in your load order.) Load order is still relevant among the weather mods themselves, too. In your case, Dynamic Weather can take advantage of the rain and snow from Enhanced Weather, so the Enhanced Weather.esm should go before the Dynamic Weather one. (You already have the two arranged this way, I'm just illustrating the point.) If you ever need to, you can select multiple mods in the Fallout Mod Manager using Control and/or Shift, just as you'd select multiple files in Windows. Then, you can drag them all to a new position as a single group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johssy Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 [X] Anchorage.esm[ ] Fallout3.esm[X] ThePitt.esm Wait, are you saying you don't have Fallout3.esm ticked? Isn't that.. the most important thing for the game to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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