GAM3RFinn Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I hope this is the correct section. So. Where do i start? This is driving me crazy. I need help. I can't say what causes the problem, for i've been trying to find what causes the problem, with no results. Something is causing my male character's hand meshes go crazy. Not all the time, it seems to happen randomly when i stop moving. If i move again, most of the time it fixes itself, but this happens very often, and it's driving me mad. I can't find the source, the problem. I've uninstalled all my mods couple of times, installing few and then trying to cause the bug to happen again. Couple hours ago i gave up. It looked like i had it figured out, i uninstalled the mod that was apparently causing this, and then installed everything else just to be sure, well. The problem is still present. The problem has been around for quite some time now, but i was able to ignore it till lately, not sure how, but i figured i could live with it. Turns out, i'm getting really annoyed by it and would like to get it fixed.When i move around, most the time everything is alright, but sometimes when i stop moving, my character's hand meshes shrunk like this: Here is a better view: When i tried changing the mods around, i caused this monstrosity: I'm burning all my brain cells here. I just can't find the problem. The worst thing is that i can barely find any info about this. Only 2-3 topics after several hours of searching online, haven't found a fix anywhere. If anyone can help, please do. I have a mild OCD and this bug really bothers me. Thanks in advance.My current load order, copied from FOMM. I can confirm that the problem occurs with this load order. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmRRCompanionVault.esmFNVToolkit.esmCaliber.esmCaliberXhonesthearts.esmCaliberXgunrunners.esmCompanionInfAmmo.esmFOOK - New Vegas.esmFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esmNevadaSkies.esmSCAV.esmWeapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esmSCC NV 0.3.esmFNV-BeardEyebrowFixV1_0.espReadius_NV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espFOOK - New Vegas.espFOOK - New Vegas DLCs.espLight My Flare.espCompanionInfAmmoOptional.espCompanionInfAmmoCheat.espRustyhwys.espSprint Mod.espACR.espAK_AR15WP.espJswords4sale.espModdable Unique Weps.espWeapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Cheat.Cabinet.espWeapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.espWeapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp1nivVSLArmors.espADAM - Rangers on Patrol.espDragonskinTacticalOutfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espDragsModernGunslinger.espEyepatch.espHDTshop.espJRougeRangerCoats4Loot.espNCRTrooperOverhaul.espPimpMyScarf.espPimpMyScarf_v2.espranger_leather.espSunglasses Shipment.espTailor Maid - NV.espTailor Maid Black Retex - NV.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espTrooperOverhaul-Dragbody.espUrgeWasterScarf.espw44Satchels - Full.espw44Satchels - Lite.espUnlimitedCompanions.espnoautoaim.espGrenadeHotkey.espGrenadeHotkey - DeadMoney.espNevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.espAoT_Masks 5-Years In The Making.esp001 Project Weaponry.espGlovesGalore.espGlovesGalore_DeadMoney.espMaxFollowers12.espTheLozza's_Gasmasks.espPimpMyScarf_CamoRetext.espPimpMyScarf_ForDragonskinOutfits+.espHKUSP.espNV Desert Eagle.espColtM4Carbines.espJswords4freeDMGPlus5.espJswords4free.espJswords4saleDMGPlus5.espGlock Pack.espB92FS.espAG Weapon Reload Speed.espAG Weapon Reload Speed -Minor AGI.espHeadgearRevamp.espMysterious Punisher + Punisher Noir.espPunisher Noir.espMysterious Punisher.espHood.espupdatedWearGlassesandMasks.espWearableAMrifles.espChristine1.espJGrahamCompanion.espPickCompanionArmorandWeapons.espCCO - Ulysses Companion - All DLCs Patch.espCCO - Ulysses Companion - Dead Money Patch.espCCO - Ulysses Companion - Free Follower.espCCO - Ulysses Companion - Old World Blues Patch.espCCO - Ulysses Companion.espNo Weapon Speed Penalty.espDFB - Dead Money Revisit.espCAGE 1.9.3.1.espBoon_spotter.espNevadaSkies - Basic Edition.espHJLNoGorev100.espMore Ghouls.espCourierCacheWSE.espBetter Game Performance.espCombat Ranger Armor MII.espSleevedDusterArmorREQ.espHolster Gear.espJRougeRangerCoats4Free.espJoOsArmory.espKORs Pistol Harness JG.espKORs Pistol Harness.espMercWanderer.espMilitaryArmorPack.espRoadFighterArmorEN.esp1nivVSLArmors Cheat.espMP5A4 and SWAT Gear.espTac Vest Addon_NV.espOpportunist Armor.espJTmercgearlite.espJTmercgear.espHT Unlimited Ammo.esp Total active plugins: 123Total plugins: 131 The non-active plugins are: ProjectBrazil.esmXRE - CARS!.esmDragonskinNCRPersonnelWearingOutfits.espFlashlightNVSE.espRogueRangerArmour.espXRE - CARS!.espCCO - FT Ulysses Patch.espNevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biervampir Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Do you have aBody replacer? Race Mod? Animation reaplacer? or Weapon Mods that change some Animations? (sry, I'm too lazy and not really thoroughly by watching a Plugin list) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAM3RFinn Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Do you have aBody replacer? Race Mod? Animation reaplacer? or Weapon Mods that change some Animations? (sry, I'm too lazy and not really thoroughly by watching a Plugin list) Yes. I do have race and body mods, but currently i do not have them installed (trough NMM) and the problem is there. I had some armors for Type 3 bodies, you can see the scientist gloves on one of the pics, i uninstalled that and the problem still remains. Currently no race or body mod is active. EDIT: Also, no animation replacers right now. I did have them at one point so i removed them all, so we can say the issue also happens with the vanilla animations, as you can see on the first pic, it's the vanilla pistol animation. Edited December 5, 2014 by GAM3RFinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biervampir Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 The bad thing about NexusMM is, if he crashs during an installation, it install the mod, but it don't know that it is allready installen. So he will recreate the same files, if u want to deinstall the mod.Also it could be possible, that some mod has overwritten/ would be overwritten, and as u deinstall them, NexusMM don't know anymore, which files are to be recreated (but it needs a crash during an installation too).If your NexusMM didn't crash during a installation, i suggest u the same. The best way is, to install the mod again, and deinstall it manually. That fixes some of those problems for me. Than deinstall it on nexus. I think it could be Type3, Type3 Armor (Type3 required) or the race mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAM3RFinn Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 The bad thing about NexusMM is, if he crashs during an installation, it install the mod, but it don't know that it is allready installen. So he will recreate the same files, if u want to deinstall the mod.Also it could be possible, that some mod has overwritten/ would be overwritten, and as u deinstall them, NexusMM don't know anymore, which files are to be recreated (but it needs a crash during an installation too).If your NexusMM didn't crash during a installation, i suggest u the same. The best way is, to install the mod again, and deinstall it manually. That fixes some of those problems for me. Than deinstall it on nexus. I think it could be Type3, Type3 Armor (Type3 required) or the race mod. Alright, thanks. What i'll try today: Remove all the body replacers and race mods temporarily and try the game without them. I'll update once i got results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAM3RFinn Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) The bad thing about NexusMM is, if he crashs during an installation, it install the mod, but it don't know that it is allready installen. So he will recreate the same files, if u want to deinstall the mod.Also it could be possible, that some mod has overwritten/ would be overwritten, and as u deinstall them, NexusMM don't know anymore, which files are to be recreated (but it needs a crash during an installation too).If your NexusMM didn't crash during a installation, i suggest u the same. The best way is, to install the mod again, and deinstall it manually. That fixes some of those problems for me. Than deinstall it on nexus. I think it could be Type3, Type3 Armor (Type3 required) or the race mod. Alright, thanks. What i'll try today: Remove all the body replacers and race mods temporarily and try the game without them. I'll update once i got results. Problem still exists. Should i try to remove the Mesh folder, and then downloading all the mods (excluding the body replacers and race mods)? EDIT: I probably should have said this already, but the problem does not seem exist when all the mods trough NMM are uninstalled. I've tested for good 20 minutes, running and walking around, switching weapons and trying to trigger the bug, with no success. It happens randomly, but in that time (20 mins) it should have happened at least once. Edited December 6, 2014 by GAM3RFinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biervampir Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I thought it would be allways like that. It's probably the only thing u can do now, to delete teh mesh folder and download it again.If it still wont work, you have to delete the whole Data folder and download it again. Sometimes that's the only way to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAM3RFinn Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 I thought it would be allways like that. It's probably the only thing u can do now, to delete teh mesh folder and download it again.If it still wont work, you have to delete the whole Data folder and download it again. Sometimes that's the only way to fix that. Alright, thanks again. I'll update once i've tried that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAM3RFinn Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Little update:After deleting the meshes and installing the mods again, the problem is still there. This is good however, because now i know it's because of 1 or many NMM mods. I did some testing and found out that Pip Boy readius does not cause this. I thought it was the most likely to cause the bug, but i unistalled it with other mods on, the bug happened with Pip Boy 3000, i uninstalled everything else and it does not happen with the Readious. After some time, i'm quite certain it's a Gameplay&Effects or a Misc mod, now the prime suspect is NVSE Stutter remover. Something very interesting to note: The bug seems to happen when my character's animation bugs and he "glides" a little after stopping, the glide seems to be gone as well as i uninstalled everything else but Readius I need to do some more testing but i'll be sure to update once i get results. Edited December 8, 2014 by GAM3RFinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biervampir Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Little update: After deleting the meshes and installing the mods again, the problem is still there. This is good however, because now i know it's because of 1 or many NMM mods. I did some testing and found out that Pip Boy readius does not cause this. I thought it was the most likely to cause the bug, but i unistalled it with other mods on, the bug happened with Pip Boy 3000, i uninstalled everything else and it does not happen with the Readious. After some time, i'm quite certain it's a Gameplay&Effects or a Misc mod, now the prime suspect is NVSE Stutter remover. Something very interesting to note: The bug seems to happen when my character's animation bugs and he "glides" a little after stopping, the glide seems to be gone as well as i uninstalled everything else but Readius I need to do some more testing but i'll be sure to update once i get results. Did it work, and how did u fix the problem?Would be interessting for me :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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