Have gamebreaking bug - can't move any direction on map

[nealybird]

Hi All,

I have a heavily modded game, and have been playing and modding constantly for a couple of years. So my problem is definitely mod related, not hardware or anything like that.

 

current problem:

I can start the game, load a save, play for a bit, but when I travel west from Whiterun and then turn north by fort greymoor, cross a bridge and a little bit after that I get stuck in the road, with a 'there is nothing but wilderness that way' message. At that point I get that message no matter which way I try to go. My followers continue to move around normally. I also see odd circles in the sky, and the image of a tower up in the sky when I turn back south. I think there were a few other graphical glitches in the sky as I left Whiterun. I also tried fast travelling to a few different places instead of going up that road, and get ctd more times than not.

 

I've tried several different savegames, with different characters even, and get the same result, so it's not save related.

 

As I mentioned I have heavily modded the game. I've been using MO for quite a while now, and this profile is my big one with everything I want in it. Started with STEP extended, then added most of REGS, then weather and lighting, then a crapload of other stuff I like. I have been playing with this basic build for a few months (with constant little changes and updates). The most recent changes I made were the new unofficial patches (but I had the problem before that), added Peltapalooza, Shezries Old Hroldan town, used SMC to make a giant texture mod, and updated whatever mods had updates recently. I would guess it would have to have something to do with a recent mod change, or combination of mod changes. I searched for a bit and can't find anyone mentioning this same type of problem.

 

here's my LOOT log:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

CRC: C665FD56

Update.esm

CRC: 75967E61

C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

CRC: 45A699F

Version: 2.0.8

C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats

Dawnguard.esm

CRC: DACA1057

C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

CRC: 978D216D

Version: 2.0.8

C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats

Unique Flowers & Plants.esm

CRC: C430DDF4

HearthFires.esm

CRC: 175CA5DD

C.Location, Graphics, Invent

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

CRC: 6D0E4588

Version: 2.0.8

C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound

Dragonborn.esm

CRC: 5CB90338

C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

CRC: 7BD54BF8

Version: 2.0.8

C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

CRC: FE33A011

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

CRC: FA823B6F

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

CRC: 19C7CD80

Version: 1.3

ApachiiHair.esm

CRC: 783F7167

Version: 1.4

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

CRC: 918881A7

Version: 3.1

RSkyrimChildren.esm

CRC: 8405286F

•Warning: The RSChildren USKP Patch is required.

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

CRC: AC4A653A

WinterholdDestruction.esm

CRC: 3E83CFC0

SkyMoMod.esm

CRC: 151A29D3

Delev, Relev

HighResTexturePack01.esp

CRC: D596F02A

HighResTexturePack02.esp

CRC: D596F02A

HighResTexturePack03.esp

CRC: D596F02A

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

CRC: 7EBC542

Version: 1.1.9

Cutting Room Floor.esp

CRC: 6C724123

Version: 1.1

C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Delev, Invent, Names, Stats

AMatterOfTime.esp

CRC: 512CD10C

Version: 2.00

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

CRC: 4B399546

Footprints with Footprints Ash combined.esp

CRC: DA7EC7AC

LootandDegradation.esp

CRC: F039A70A

Version: 1.31

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

CRC: 123E00E9

TakeNotes.esp

CRC: 17717F55

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

CRC: 1A5860EB

Version: 2.4

HDT Capes.esp

CRC: 3B56684C

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

CRC: B473FA3

Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp

CRC: F17975C5

Eyes Of Beauty plus Elves Edition Esps.esp

CRC: 46FC5D7D

RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

CRC: 7CA92D40

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

CRC: 8A8A009F

•Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

CRC: 1537EE33

SplashofRain.esp

CRC: 8906ABBC

Version: 1.051

TKRecoil.esp

CRC: 7D30007

Hair Physics Project.esp

CRC: C4775BB2

LeftHandRings.esp

CRC: FD80375A

Version: 1.5

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

CRC: 6C0E1257

•Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp.

Elemental Staves.esp

CRC: B0462604

Predator Vision.esp

CRC: 9EE1D306

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

CRC: 2F172642

ETaC - Complete.esp

CRC: 18F0A3FF

•Note: It is recommended to also install the 3DNPC patch for Expanded Towns and Cities.

ELFX merged patches - Dragon_Dawn_NoBreeze.esp

CRC: CBBE835E

College Winterhold _ CWIDawnDragon patch.esp

CRC: EA759473

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

CRC: 701C2EFF

Tamriel Reloaded Trees.esp

CRC: AC8B570C

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

CRC: 61C50D1

3DNPC.esp

CRC: DF187B46

Version: 3.08

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

CRC: 1DB1518A

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

CRC: EBD99340

HitStop.esp

CRC: 6F4A11E0

SkyComplete Merged esp's.esp

CRC: 51E0296

AFT_iNPCFix.esp

CRC: E37C936A

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

CRC: 2221F018

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

CRC: BD3A207D

sandboxcylinderheight.esp

CRC: EF4C4822

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

CRC: B6FA2944

Lock Overhaul.esp

CRC: 3FB2EDFA

RaceMenu.esp

CRC: 2765B7D0

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

CRC: AFACD2E9

•Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp

CRC: B8734BD0

KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp

CRC: 2C81A056

LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp

CRC: 9C2257D6

Merged BHWar_True_Lovely_Beards_SGeye_KJ_Mikan.esp

CRC: 27849802

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

CRC: E9D5C12B

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

CRC: E33CC3F

RAIN.esp

CRC: 7378EA0C

ProperWeaponScale.esp

CRC: 51FC22F6

Convenient Horses.esp

CRC: A2C92D5C

Version: 14950

•Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

Rainbows.esp

CRC: 547F5D56

Version: 1.05

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CRC: 8E73F4A8

SMDropLitTorch.esp

CRC: 1D97B006

SRA -Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

CRC: 91FD2B67

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

CRC: AAEE23BF

SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp

CRC: 4CCED506

SkyUI.esp

CRC: 9330CAF7

Version: 4.1

TradeBarter.esp

CRC: AC24F58B

Delev, Relev

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

CRC: 49778E0B

•Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+

mintylightningmod.esp

CRC: 83F77041

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

CRC: CAAC2A07

Version: 2.2.0

ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

CRC: E586B5

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

CRC: F7B2BC5

Version: 5.0

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

CRC: 399C31A9

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

ADS.esp

CRC: 73426A08

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

CRC: 175581E1

Version: 1.3

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

CRC: 395F31E4

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

CRC: F68C9890

Version: v6.5.2a

Delev, Relev

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

CRC: E702947E

Delev

Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp

CRC: 7555C61A

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

CRC: C1DDA80E

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

CRC: 3A2624E4

Version: 3.0.esp

ShezriesOldHroldan.esp

CRC: 5F4A39E8

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

CRC: 79EA7D8

RBB - Snowy Travel Merge.esp

CRC: 26DD5EA5

BetterDGEntrance.esp

CRC: 4CF8DF37

Version: 1.0

Atlas Legendary.esp

CRC: 89E650DC

Version: 1.0

WetandCold.esp

CRC: BEAB0A2F

Version: 1.422

When Vampires Attack.esp

CRC: 8C43D3E8

Version: 2.0.3

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

CRC: 74ED4C84

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

CRC: E6DE6D0B

Version: 2.0

C.Location

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

CRC: 37A6F2FA

Version: v6.5.2a

Delev, Relev

High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

CRC: 3170B6F4

Relev

Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

CRC: B32D5D7D

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

CRC: E19B3101

Immersive Whiterun.esp

CRC: B3BB7D3A

Immersive Solstheim.esp

CRC: B202DDFF

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

CRC: A7DD81EE

AnnaNPCs.esp

CRC: 96CFF8C5

ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp

CRC: F333B0E5

Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp

CRC: 15A1D395

Moss Rocks w Moss Rocks DB combined.esp

CRC: 7378695F

SDO Full combined esps - Giant_Whiterun_Waterfall.esp

CRC: 14B28DC3

WetandCold - Holidays.esp

CRC: F70E0F15

Version: 1.07

Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp

CRC: 1485CD4B

Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp

CRC: 5F2C88C0

ETaC Merged Esp's 111514.esp

CRC: C78BC9EA

JKs Windhelm.esp

CRC: 42169929

Version: 1.2b

NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp

CRC: 52B4A96B

BirdsHFclean.esp

CRC: 5CA1AC97

JKs Solitude.esp

CRC: 426D577E

Version: 1

Oblivion_Further_Clams_Deadbody_Ducks_Farm_Pilgrim_Step418.esp

CRC: CE53EC37

Version: 3

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

CRC: A505BEA9

Version: 1.11

Inigo.esp

CRC: 4321049D

SeranaDialogEdit.esp

CRC: 3C72EE6B

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

CRC: D6C72A3C

Immersive Weapons.esp

CRC: E41D31D

Delev, Relev

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

CRC: 79C7AB7C

AOS.esp

CRC: D4F2924F

IHSS.esp

CRC: 8E27DF44

randomthunder.esp

CRC: 1058BBB4

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

CRC: 455C0C6A

MoreSoundOptions.esp

CRC: 66FE4659

ADS_MSO.esp

CRC: F729513A

ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

CRC: CE0742BD

CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp

CRC: 2D9DFD1

COT Patches.esp

CRC: 4DC049F3

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

CRC: 1510365E

Version: 1.09

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

CRC: BDD70444

RevampedExteriorFog.esp

CRC: C2B2BCF1

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

CRC: EEDD984B

BetterQuestObjectives-MergedPatches.esp

CRC: BC4E56EA

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

CRC: 8617DA3B

NonEssentialChildren.esp

CRC: BAE841DB

[object Object]

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

CRC: A4E43BB4

Version: 1.5

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

CRC: A4DF64EA

Version: 1.3

Delev, Relev

High Level Enemies.esp

CRC: 297D77BE

Relev

High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

CRC: AC94562C

Relev

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

CRC: 243D3654

Relev

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

CRC: 2A9F7DED

Version: 7.1

[object Object], [object Object]

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

CRC: E8A4F39C

SkyrimSewers.esp

CRC: 255F7577

Version: 4.12

Laundry.esp

CRC: 13C96D64

TheChoiceIsYours - merged esps.esp

CRC: 8F3FC6C2

Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

CRC: BDE8703C

Nightingale Hall.esp

CRC: 288A181C

Skyrim Realistic Archery.esp

CRC: 30F941B1

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

CRC: A0056AE4

JKs Whiterun.esp

CRC: EC03B9F

Version: 1.1

BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp

CRC: CA58ABB1

JKs Riften.esp

CRC: DAB69D63

Version: 1

Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

CRC: 4B53C1A3

Run For Your Lives.esp

CRC: B7BAFE68

Version: 2.0.3

Cloaks.esp

CRC: 2D16EDED

1nivWICCloaks.esp

CRC: 6B6B803A

Version: 2.3

Relev

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

CRC: C1210935

Batch of Armour esp's 110814B.esp

CRC: 7D0F2BAA

PrinceandPauperRS.esp

CRC: 82684F37

Prince and Pauper RS Patch Set.esp

CRC: 9CC4B0AE

Version: 3DNPCs

EEO - USP (2.0.4a) Patch.esp

CRC: 34685CD6

RSChildren - Complete _NEC_USKP.esp

CRC: B404ACDC

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

CRC: 3BA25C1C

Version: 2.3

Delev, Relev

Understone Keep Repair.esp

CRC: F56364D6

DawnofRiften.esp

CRC: 356D10D1

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

CRC: D3DD4ABE

fallentreebridges.esp

CRC: B6B2A54C

JKs Markarth.esp

CRC: AA06D71E

Version: 1.1

RealWarMaiden.esp

CRC: 55CC1FA4

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

CRC: E3704311

FastSpeed4_ImprovedPud_TTYMfrostfall_BlockSparkles_Gildergreen.esp

CRC: 73411D0C

Immersive Patrols II.esp

CRC: 9A64E3F9

PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp

CRC: E102F49F

Delev, Relev

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

CRC: 674C05BC

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

CRC: 7409094B

dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp

CRC: 9ECF7D52

SMC merged esps _ blacksmith_dragonpriest_skysan_etc.esp

CRC: 3EFEA3BE

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

CRC: C730D9F6

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

CRC: C9DB0844

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

CRC: 56988D38

DeadlyDragons.esp

CRC: E8F826EA

Delev, Relev

No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp

CRC: 54B7705D

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

CRC: E536DE07

Farm Animals_HF.esp

CRC: 6190C05E

Delev, Relev

Elisdriel.esp

CRC: 1619C0B5

JKs Whiterun exterior.esp

CRC: C6AE3484

Version: 1

tos_amber_guard.esp

CRC: C9ECB0A6

Jaggarsfeld.esp

CRC: FCCCA8BE

Archer's Armory Skyrim.esp

CRC: 1DC03AF

Relev

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

CRC: 221D2EAD

Version: 2.8

NoxUE2.00.esp

CRC: D62F798B

SkyFix - Tidier Warmaidens Workshop.esp

CRC: 673F744

Provincial Courier Service.esp

CRC: 3E2824E4

Version: 1.2.4

C.Location

EliRedguardHouse.esp

CRC: A4A1AA04

quest_pitfighter.esp

CRC: 1732A379

REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp

CRC: 758FB1A7

Version: 3.4.2

CanalHome.esp

CRC: CF3D01FB

Version: 2

Faction Crossbows.esp

CRC: F100E028

Morning Fogs.esp

CRC: FD718044

Version: 1.0

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

CRC: 70A70428

Unique Grasses.esp

CRC: E6977266

REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp

CRC: 3040254C

WATER Plants.esp

CRC: F66566C6

Version: 2.0

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

CRC: 9BA892A1

Version: 1.2.8

REGS Patch - STEP Extended.esp

CRC: 3EBAD46E

Riften Canal Exit.esp

CRC: C00CC3BF

high hrothgar overhaul.esp

CRC: DFF70AC9

iNeed.esp

CRC: 6DF94BD

Version: 1.22

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

CRC: A8C2E40A

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

CRC: 97CFFF27

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

CRC: B645993F

ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp

CRC: B8D4C553

RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

CRC: AEB238D4

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

CRC: BC5E2C2C

iHUD.esp

CRC: 6098B756

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

CRC: 350A905E

Version: 300

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

CRC: F299754B

and my load order txt from MO:

this is my first post, and I've never done spoiler tags, so hopefully it all works for me. thanks for listening folks!

__ ok clearly the 2nd spoiler didn't work, so I'll delete all that....

Edited December 7, 2014 by nealybird

[nealybird]

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unique Flowers & Plants.esm

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

RSkyrimChildren.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

WinterholdDestruction.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Footprints with Footprints Ash combined.esp

LootandDegradation.esp

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp

TakeNotes.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

HDT Capes.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp

Eyes Of Beauty plus Elves Edition Esps.esp

RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

SplashofRain.esp

TKRecoil.esp

Hair Physics Project.esp

LeftHandRings.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

Predator Vision.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

ELFX merged patches - Dragon_Dawn_NoBreeze.esp

College Winterhold _ CWIDawnDragon patch.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Tamriel Reloaded Trees.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

3DNPC.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

HitStop.esp

SkyComplete Merged esp's.esp

AFT_iNPCFix.esp

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

sandboxcylinderheight.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp

KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp

LWPlayerHeadTracking.esp

Merged BHWar_True_Lovely_Beards_SGeye_KJ_Mikan.esp

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

RAIN.esp

ProperWeaponScale.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Rainbows.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

SRA -Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp

SkyUI.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

ADS.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp

Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

ShezriesOldHroldan.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

RBB - Snowy Travel Merge.esp

BetterDGEntrance.esp

Atlas Legendary.esp

WetandCold.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

AnnaNPCs.esp

ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp

Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp

Moss Rocks w Moss Rocks DB combined.esp

SDO Full combined esps - Giant_Whiterun_Waterfall.esp

WetandCold - Holidays.esp

Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp

Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp

ETaC Merged Esp's 111514.esp

JKs Windhelm.esp

NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

JKs Solitude.esp

Oblivion_Further_Clams_Deadbody_Ducks_Farm_Pilgrim_Step418.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

Inigo.esp

SeranaDialogEdit.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

AOS.esp

IHSS.esp

randomthunder.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

MoreSoundOptions.esp

ADS_MSO.esp

ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp

COT Patches.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

RevampedExteriorFog.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-MergedPatches.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

High Level Enemies.esp

High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp

Laundry.esp

TheChoiceIsYours - merged esps.esp

Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

Nightingale Hall.esp

Skyrim Realistic Archery.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

JKs Whiterun.esp

BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp

JKs Riften.esp

Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

Batch of Armour esp's 110814B.esp

PrinceandPauperRS.esp

Prince and Pauper RS Patch Set.esp

EEO - USP (2.0.4a) Patch.esp

RSChildren - Complete _NEC_USKP.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Understone Keep Repair.esp

DawnofRiften.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

JKs Markarth.esp

RealWarMaiden.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

FastSpeed4_ImprovedPud_TTYMfrostfall_BlockSparkles_Gildergreen.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp

SMC merged esps _ blacksmith_dragonpriest_skysan_etc.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

Farm Animals_HF.esp

Elisdriel.esp

JKs Whiterun exterior.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

Jaggarsfeld.esp

Archer's Armory Skyrim.esp

Bijin Warmaidens.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

SkyFix - Tidier Warmaidens Workshop.esp

Provincial Courier Service.esp

EliRedguardHouse.esp

quest_pitfighter.esp

REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp

CanalHome.esp

Faction Crossbows.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Unique Grasses.esp

REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp

WATER Plants.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

REGS Patch - STEP Extended.esp

Riften Canal Exit.esp

high hrothgar overhaul.esp

iNeed.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp

RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

iHUD.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

hopefully that works. that's my loadorder.txt from MO

 

... that's better. Oh, and Take Notes and SkyComplete were also recent additions, but I may have added those since the problem started.

Edited December 7, 2014 by nealybird

[nealybird]

well, I just played a bunch more. still have a bad section of the map. this time I traveled down through riverwood and helgen with no problem. fast travelled to riften with no problem, but then had a ctd when I tried to save. restarted at riverwood, and ran into impass trying to pass to the east of the mountain west of fort greymoor. was able to turn around and go around the west side of it and north. ran into impassable terrain as I approached the silent moons camp. .. so the same basic area as before. I noticed no unusual things in the sky this time going from that direction... I'll reload and see if I can get out west to Markarth and Morthal.

[nealybird]

Just restarted at Dustmans Cairn, and went around the west end of those mountains, and north clear up to Morthal and then on west to Solitude. Lots of action along the way. Ended up lagging out and ctd'ing after leaving Solitude and riding west. So mostly going fine except for that dead zone in the middle of the map so far....

 

played some more last night and went down to Falkreath, and then checked out the border gate near there, and all is fine down to there. then went west all the way to Markarth, with no map problems or crashes whatsoever. I do still have the problem of the vendors inside the gate missing there carts or stands and all their goods. they just lean on air. I'm using ETAC and JK's Markarth. I tried turning off JK and went back in and that doesn't change that. So something must be messed up with my ETAC for Markarth I guess. I'll mess with that more another time.

 

but anyway, the good news is no map problems anywhere south, southwest, west or northwest that I can find.

Edited December 8, 2014 by nealybird

[nealybird]

ok to update this... I decided to start over on a new MO profile AND a new play-through. I've been at it a couple of weeks and all has been going well.. until now. I'm just up to about level 6 and haven't covered all the map yet by a long shot. But today after passing through Brittleshin pass, and coming out on the north side of it, I go up the road a little bit and see a couple of odd cloud rings in the sky, and immediately thought 'oh no- here we go again'. and sure enough a few steps further and I get the same 'you can't go that way' message, right on the road west of Whiterun. I immediately quit and deacitivate the last mod change I made, and restarted. same problem. cleaned the save, same problem. loaded a save farther back in the pass and played through, and same problem when I emerged. The first time I saw the rings of clouds, I also saw a campfire way up in the sky.

can anyone please shed some light on this problem?

[nealybird]

 

 

went back to an earlier save at level 4 in Falkreath, hustled up to Whiterun, and same problem. the clouds look different this time, but still not right, and still end up stuck in the road...

[nealybird]

 

 

 

 

went back to level 2. same problem up north of the western watchtower. this time I got the campfire in the sky again. and the round cloud rings. this time there's two other oddities: something that looks like a spotlight, not sure what that is. and more little things that on closer inspection seem to be the tip of a mountain upside down? then followed shortly by getting stuck again.

[nealybird]

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  CRC: 75967E61
  C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
  CRC: 194004C7
  Version: 2.0.8a
  C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats
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  C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
  CRC: 978D216D
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• Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
  CRC: C430DDF4
• HearthFires.esm
  CRC: 175CA5DD
  C.Location, Graphics, Invent
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  CRC: 6D0E4588
  Version: 2.0.8
  C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound
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  C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names
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  Version: 2.00
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  CRC: CBBE835E
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  CRC: EA759473
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  CRC: C05564BD
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  CRC: AFACD2E9
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• RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
  CRC: 7CA92D40
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  CRC: BFAF15E8
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  CRC: C4ED7762
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  Delev, Relev
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  CRC: 3FB2EDFA
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  CRC: 3B56684C
• Presets 2-3.esp
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• JKs Cities and Towns V1.0.esp
  CRC: E199E146
• Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
  CRC: 513DEE7
  Version: 2.3
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  CRC: 2765B7D0
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  Version: 5.0
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
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  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
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  Version: 1.3
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
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  CRC: 9330CAF7
  Version: 4.1
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  CRC: AC24F58B
  Delev, Relev
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  CRC: DF2B11C
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  CRC: 49778E0B
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  Version: 1.0
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  CRC: 5766A466
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  CRC: 90B240B9
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  CRC: E702947E
  Delev
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  CRC: C1DDA80E
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  CRC: 5CA1AC97
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  CRC: 23EA89B2
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  CRC: 70EB4515
  Version: 1.0.4
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  CRC: 4A8AC3A
• RealisticWaterTwo.esp
  CRC: A505BEA9
  Version: 1.11
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  CRC: BEAB0A2F
  Version: 1.422
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  CRC: 991F0B89
  Version: 2.2DGDB
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  CRC: 8E27DF44
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  CRC: CAFC4D67
  Version: 1
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  CRC: 767B8EED
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  CRC: BDD70444
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  CRC: 674C05BC
  • Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn.
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  CRC: 346B3DFA
  Version: 2.1
• AOS2_TAD Patch.esp
  CRC: 5463785E
  Version: 2.1
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  CRC: 1510365E
  Version: 1.09
• When Vampires Attack.esp
  CRC: 8C43D3E8
  Version: 2.0.3
• aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
  CRC: EEDD984B
  Delev
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  CRC: A4E43BB4
  Version: 1.5
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
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  CRC: 1E87A378
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  CRC: 1DB1518A
• Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
  CRC: A4DF64EA
  Version: 1.3
  Delev, Relev
• SMC merged Esp's 122814.esp
  CRC: 84780227
• ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
  CRC: C730D9F6
• AshRocks.esp
  CRC: 64EB9F73
• Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
  CRC: 56988D38
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  CRC: A232342F
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  CRC: 49F5E301
  Version: 1.13
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  Version: 1.02
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• Bring Out Your Dead.esp
  CRC: E6DE6D0B
  Version: 2.0
  C.Location
• BetterQuestObjectives-MergedPatches.esp
  CRC: BC4E56EA
• NonEssentialChildren.esp
  CRC: BAE841DB
  [object Object]
• RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp
  CRC: A2F2BE2C
  Version: 1.1.0
• Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
  CRC: 8617DA3B
• RSChildren - Complete.esp
  CRC: 23B038FE
• RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
  CRC: 509B3972
• SoS - The Dungeons.esp
  CRC: 79377267
  Version: 1.23
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• AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
  CRC: FD7101C1
  Version: 2.2DG
• SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
  CRC: 21631A9B
  • Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
• Convenient Bridges.esp
  CRC: E7134F65
• AnnaNPCs.esp
  CRC: 96CFF8C5
• WetandCold - Holidays.esp
  CRC: F70E0F15
  Version: 1.07
• BF.esp
  CRC: B0C1D34A
• Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
  CRC: 2A9F7DED
  Version: 7.1
  [object Object], [object Object]
• Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
  CRC: E688076D
• BetterDGEntrance.esp
  CRC: 53EC5DE6
  Version: 1.0
• Inconsequential NPCs.esp
  CRC: E8A4F39C
• Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
  CRC: BDE8703C
• RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
  CRC: A0056AE4
• TheChoiceIsYours.esp
  CRC: 5E9DC415
  Version: 1.4
• Run For Your Lives.esp
  CRC: B7BAFE68
  Version: 2.0.3
• Cloaks.esp
  CRC: 2D16EDED
• 1nivWICCloaks.esp
  CRC: 6B6B803A
  Version: 2.3
  Relev
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  CRC: C1210935
• 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
  CRC: 3BA25C1C
  Version: 2.3
  Delev, Relev
• Inigo.esp
  CRC: EB999CC2
• fallentreebridges.esp
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• SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
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  Version: 1.1
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• Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
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• Farm Animals_HF.esp
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  Delev, Relev
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  CRC: D6C72A3C
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  CRC: DE749611
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  CRC: E41D31D
  Delev, Relev
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  CRC: 243D3654
  Relev
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• SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
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  Version: 3.0
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  CRC: C9DB0844
• SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
  CRC: AACFD505
• Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
  CRC: F57D140B
• Jaggarsfeld.esp
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  CRC: 7EA628AA
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  Version: 2.2.9
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  Version: 173
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there's my current loot log. I also tried going back to a previous MO save (before I added AV, Inconsequential NPC's, Warzones 2015, Real Shelter, Anna NPC's, etc.) and still had the same problem. All the mods I added were working great, game was running great, frames were good, etc. I just come to this area of the map and get screwed. Does anybody know anything else I can try? I'll definitely have to visit this area of the map after every mod change I guess. Or do I need to let cels reset or something? Anything I can try? I know other people have to be using the same mods I am.

 

The first time this happened my MO build had the majority of the REGS pack mods in it, but this time I didn't use any of that really, except the obvious general stuff. I used most of the same weather, lighting, character body and face mods, enb and sounds stuff, except I added SOS this time. Most of the other stuff I added was the same as last time (AFT, frostfall, cloaks, iNeed, Lanterns, FCO, Inigo, Jaggersfeld, etc).