sir stanley Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I guess we will all have to live with the fact that creating super duper graphics is time AND money consuming, but every company strives to have the cutting edge graphics technology to impress the crouds. You complain about oblivions length? look what is happening to the fps genre! Games like prey and stubbs the zombie last just 10 hours!!! Do they really expect me to hand over 50 euros for a mere 10 hours of gaming experience? no matter how good the rest of the aspects of the game is i say forget it!I am a 34 yr old man and i have been playing games since the ancient zx spectrum and oric atmos times. if the situation continues like that when i turn 40 some games might as well last 5 hours! well i certainly prefer to go "adventuring" in acropolis for the 10nth time and lose some weight in the process. Sir Stanley Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit_fire999 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 What would be ideal would be morrowind world, quests, travel, etc. but with the fighting, graphics, arena and physics of Oblivion. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrakTheCrazy Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Better Bodies,Better Heads,Morrowind retextured, and lots more of them mods out there make morrowind and oblivion go head to head on challenging who has better graphics than theres that tamriel rebuilt project that hopefully will be done with an a year or less(I hope) adds almost all of tamriel and than morrowinds has more quests, more challenging main quest, basic and small and simple interface and lots more challenge oblivion greatly! MORROWIND FOREVER! Or until I die :( Only difference realy after this is stability... oblivion never seems to crash if any mods collide and mods seem to have a less chance of invalidating your save game. So... STILL MORROWIND! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falar Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I agree that Morrowind was much better fleshed out with much stronger lore (making all dialogue spoken was a MAJOR mistake, I think the most easily correctable of Oblivion's flaws; it simply does irrepairable damage to the quality of the story and personalities of the NPCs, tho that being said Morrowind npcs should have probably said less) and an INCREDIBLY better, more epic plot (Oblivion's plot is the second worst, most cliched in any modern game that initially claimed it was going to have an epic plot, second only to Half Life 2, which I consider plotless). The additional guilds and weapons I was willing to do without in exchange for better guilds/bows, but 1/2 of the guilds in Oblivion were worse than any of Morrowind's (the arena was not really a guild and the fighter's guild was terribly done, the Dark Brotherhood was awesome until the very end which was too cheesy and disappointing for words) and the bows were underpowered (though mods have corrected this). The extreme levelling approach taken in OB was also a poor design decision (there should have been certain high-level and low-level areas, like more powerful monsters the farther from the road you get). Thank the gods for mods :) However, I must admit that I am very of biased toward direct-control rpgs as opposed to point-and-click ones like Diablo, I enjoy the combat in Oblivion far more, the combat in Morrowind bored me and was never fun, and was very simple after level 15. I also feel lik the physics add immensely to Oblivion- but maybe I'm just fishing for praise because the truth is I am very disappointed with OB, I played MW for much longer and was much more immersed despite the easy access to exploits. As a hardcore fan of Daggerfall (since the age of 10) and someone who was on the official forums from before Morrowind to after Oblivion, I can say with truthfulness that the devs changed between the two games. During OB's development they were far more secretive, less receptive to input, banned controversial topics, and silenced dissent. Their behavior during the delay was simply shameful- During MWs they announced it on the forums and website first, during OBs fans found out about it from financial reports and the devs REFUSED to so much as comment on it, or say anything, while silently, coldly banning any criticism of their behavior or questions about the release date, for like 3-5 days- it was then I realized that success had gone to Beth's head, and they'd become another EA- producing the absolute least they could get away with for a profit. Hopefully the recent fan effort to reach out to them for concentrated criticism will be successful, b/c Elder Scrolls is my favorite franchise ever and I don't want it to become any more fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylandvillian Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 if i still had morrowind i would play it again, for like a couple of years or at least untill the first good additional content gets released by beth. i'm semi infuriated by the fact that the morrowind is such a better game and i don't have it anymore. dylandvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Furgy Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 You all have very good reasons to say morrowind is better. I miss the good ol' days of searching for the artifacts and checking the rumors, and storming daedric ruins. I had a level 69 nord, does anyone have higher? without cheating of course. And another question: It is said that only 15% of the people who bought morrowind and its expansions have finished all of the main quests, I can proudly say I am one of those 15 percenters, who else around here is? My biggest tip for morrowind: "Look up for reward" lol if u need an explanation just ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tessera Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I think Oblivion would have taken another 2 years to finish, if they had tried to load in as much content as Morrowind has. You know, fully half of Oblivion's installation DVD is taken up with just its voice and graphics files... more so the voices. The game needs an expansion or two... it deserves it. In the meantime, it's able to be heavily and freely modded, so that should help quite a bit as time goes on. So let's see... which game do I prefer..? Oblivion, I guess... but only after it's been heavily modified and tweaked. It's also the first game to come out in a long time that has made me want to build an entirely new rig (and I am), just to play it at full blast. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Povuholo Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 You all have very good reasons to say morrowind is better. I miss the good ol' days of searching for the artifacts and checking the rumors, and storming daedric ruins. I had a level 69 nord, does anyone have higher? without cheating of course. And another question: It is said that only 15% of the people who bought morrowind and its expansions have finished all of the main quests, I can proudly say I am one of those 15 percenters, who else around here is? My biggest tip for morrowind: "Look up for reward" lol if u need an explanation just askI am. But even now there are misc. quests, a few daedra quests and half of the temple quest line which I haven't finished yet. But Morrowind is still on my PC so I can still do them... Already did the first half of the temple quest line a month or so ago. Morrowind's replayability is amazing. And Oblivion's... Wait, Oblivion doesn't have any. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tessera Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Morrowind's replayability is amazing. And Oblivion's... Wait, Oblivion doesn't have any. :rolleyes: Untrue. Play Oblivion with the difficulty slider set at full blast and then try it again. You'll be faced with an entirely new game in every detail, since you will no longer be able to simply hack-and-slash your way through the gameworld. Hell... just getting past those first two rats in the opening tutorial sequence took me nearly an hour of pray-and-try-again tactics. It's no joke... not when you do one-sixth damage and they do six times more than normal. Maxxed difficulty changes every single dynamic in the game... it seems utterly impossible, until you sit back and start really using your head. At full difficulty, one suddenly needs to heavily plan and prioritize. Skills and abilities that seemed kinda worthless in easier games have suddenly become far more viable and important (Conjuration and Illusion spells come to mind). Your initial build and the entire, subsequent leveling process becomes critical, in order to ensure a +5 bonus to 3 carefully targeted areas during each level-up. Played in the way that I've hinted at above, it can take you over 200 hours of playing time to get your character through the bulk of the game. Yes... TWO HUNDRED hours. Even more important is that during all of that time, you'll be in a constant state of tension and fear, since being ambushed can devastate you pretty damned quickly. Try it and see... and without cheating and turning down the difficulty slider at those times when you keep getting creamed. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilvish Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I just finished the Oblivion main quest and the Fighters Guild quests with my Nord Mercenary. I'll probably start my third character this weekend. I'll make an Altmer mage I think. I want to do the Dark brotherhood quests as an evil witch who doesn't use physical weapons. These Morrowind vs Oblivion threads are getting old. I like both games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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