Load Order Help?

[spookycandy]

For the first time ever, I'm having CTD issues. Normally when Oblivion crashes I get some sort of error message, but this time around it just goes to the desktop without so much of a "hello". I have not installed any recent mods. I have WryeBash, BOSS, OBMM, and OBSE. I tried fixing my load order with BOSS to no avail. I have confirmed that while changing the load order does not help, disabling every single mod will stop the crashing on start-up.

Since I know that these mods have worked before without issues, I think I must be overlooking something in the load order. Any help would be appreciated.

Computer Stats:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+ 3.21GHz

Memory: 4GB DDR2 800

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (UAC turned off)

Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB

Game Info: Oblivion GOTY Deluxe Edition (Steam) installed onto a separate partition from my OS.

I have the latest BOSS Masterlist and my game is up to date. I also tried taking my save folder out of My Documents and deleting Oblivion.ini.

I noticed that the game starts to CTD when I enable Unique Landscapes. Earlier today Unique Landscapes did not cause this problem.

Load Order:

Oblivion.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Armamentarium.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

bookplacing.esm

bookplacing.esp

Cobl Races TNR.esp

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Storms & Sound.esp

IWR-Lights.esp

IWR-Windows.esp

IWR-Shutters.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

Days&Months.esp

personality_idles2.esp

personality_idles4.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

ArmamentariumVendors.esp

cowlredux.esp

Hiyoko_Store.esp

LittleCarmine.esp

Retma Dresses.esp

Slof's Horses Base.esp

HorsesTurnFaster.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp

Romuska Fantasy Store.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

Zira's Clydesdale Horses.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

more books teach.esp

movablebodies.esp

Slof's Epona.esp

Smite of Order.esp

RefScope.esp

SetBody.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

OOO-Level_Stock.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

Cosmetic Compilation.esp

Hidden_Elves.esp

Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp

CuteElf11.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

Get Wet.esp

QTdof.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

Beast Tongue Evolved.esp

shinyFollowMe.esp

 

 

Thanks. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated.

[ArmeniusLOD]

When you say latest masterlist, do you mean the one from the Nexus or the one from BOSS' Google Code page? Also, where is your Bashed Patch? It says it's not required, but Cobl is best used with one, not to mention ensuring compatibility between all your mods. It would also help if you posted your load order using Wrye Bash so we know what versions of the mods you are running (tutorial). For instance, Frostcrag Reborn's .esp is named the same as the official plugin, Running this along with the patch for it from the UOMP can cause problems.

[spookycandy]

When you say latest masterlist, do you mean the one from the Nexus or the one from BOSS' Google Code page?

 

From the google page.

 

Also, where is your Bashed Patch? It says it's not required, but Cobl is best used with one, not to mention ensuring compatibility between all your mods.

 Edit: it was missing for some reason, but I just restored it.  

It would also help if you posted your load order using Wrye Bash so we know what versions of the mods you are running (tutorial). For instance, Frostcrag Reborn's .esp is named the same as the official plugin, Running this along with the patch for it from the UOMP can cause problems.

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
03  Armamentarium.esm
04  Better Cities Resources.esm
05  bookplacing.esm
06  bookplacing.esp
07  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]
08  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]
09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0C  Better Cities .esp
0D  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
0E  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
0F  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
10  Storms & Sound.esp
11  IWR-Lights.esp
12  IWR-Windows.esp
13  IWR-Shutters.esp
14  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
15  Days&Months.esp
16  personality_idles2.esp
17  personality_idles4.esp
18  Living Economy.esp
19  Living Economy - Items.esp
1A  StandingJOJO.esp
1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
1F  DLCVileLair.esp
20  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
21  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
23  DLCSpellTomes.esp
24  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
25  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
26  ArmamentariumVendors.esp
27  cowlredux.esp
28  Hiyoko_Store.esp
29  LittleCarmine.esp
2A  Retma Dresses.esp
2B  Slof's Horses Base.esp
2C  HorsesTurnFaster.esp
2D  DLCThievesDen.esp
2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
30  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
31  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
32  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
33  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
34  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
35  FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.4]
36  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
37  Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp
38  Romuska Fantasy Store.esp
39  Scribe Supplies.esp
3A  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
3B  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
3C  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
3D  Zira's Clydesdale Horses.esp
3E  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
3F  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
40  DLCFrostcrag.esp
41  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
42  Knights.esp
43  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
44  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
45  Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp
46  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
47  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
48  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
49  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
4A  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
4B  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
4C  more books teach.esp
4D  movablebodies.esp
4E  Slof's Epona.esp
4F  Smite of Order.esp
50  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
51  SetBody.esp
52  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
53  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp
54  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
55  actors_in_charge.esp
56  77_Umpa_Animation.esp
57  shinyEmotions.esp
58  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
59  Cosmetic Compilation.esp
5A  Hidden_Elves.esp  [Version 1.1]
5B  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
5C  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
5D  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
5E  Better Cities Full.esp
5F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
60  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
61  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
62  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
63  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
64  Better Imperial City.esp
65  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
66  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
67  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
68  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
69  Get Wet.esp
6A  QTdof.esp
6B  Beast Tongue  Evolved.esp
6C  shinyFollowMe.esp
6D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
6E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
6F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
70  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
71  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
72  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
73  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
74  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
75  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
76  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
77  XulEntiusGorge.esp
78  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
79  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
7A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
7B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]
7C  xulPantherRiver.esp
7D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
7E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
7F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]
80  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
81  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
82  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
83  xulTheHeath.esp
84  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
85  Streamline 3.1.esp

[ArmeniusLOD]

I'd run BOSS again because Better Cities should be loading after all the Unique Landscapes. Make sure "Lock Times" isn't enabled in Wrye Bash.

 

And then there's this:

 

5F Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

 

You may have the plugin installed, but it isn't in the right order, causing a "missing master" error. This can keep Oblivion from loading correctly.

 

Your Bashed Patch is missing from that list again. You have several mods that need to be imported into it and then deactivated, such as the EVE plugins. After building the Bashed Patch you can use the mod checker on the bottom of the window to see which ones need to be deactivated. Plugins with the "NoMerge" and "Deactivate" Bash tags are the plugins that need to be imported and deactivated.

[spookycandy]

I'd run BOSS again because Better Cities should be loading after all the Unique Landscapes. Make sure "Lock Times" isn't enabled in Wrye Bash.

Done.

 

Your Bashed Patch is missing from that list again.

I re-added it after I posted that list.

 

You have several mods that need to be imported into it and then deactivated, such as the EVE plugins. After building the Bashed Patch you can use the mod checker on the bottom of the window to see which ones need to be deactivated. Plugins with the "NoMerge" and "Deactivate" Bash tags are the plugins that need to be imported and deactivated.

 

Also done. However, I keep getting this:

"

WARNING: Cobl Main.esm

• Cobl Races TNR.esp – Deactive and add to Bashed Patch using Import NPC Faces.

 

• Cobl Races TNR SI.esp – Deactive and add to Bashed Patch using Import NPC Faces."

 

It gives a link, but the link is dead. What exactly does it mean by "Import NPC Faces"?

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
03  Armamentarium.esm
04  Better Cities Resources.esm
05  bookplacing.esm
06  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]
07  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0B  Better Cities .esp
0C  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
0D  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
0E  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
0F  Storms & Sound.esp
10  IWR-Lights.esp
11  IWR-Windows.esp
12  IWR-Shutters.esp
13  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
14  Days&Months.esp
15  personality_idles2.esp
16  personality_idles4.esp
17  Living Economy.esp
18  Living Economy - Items.esp
19  StandingJOJO.esp
1A  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1B  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1C  DLCOrrery.esp
1D  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
1E  DLCVileLair.esp
1F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
20  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
21  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
22  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
23  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
24  ArmamentariumVendors.esp
25  cowlredux.esp
26  Hiyoko_Store.esp
27  LittleCarmine.esp
28  Retma Dresses.esp
29  Slof's Horses Base.esp
2A  HorsesTurnFaster.esp
2B  DLCThievesDen.esp
2C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
2E  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
2F  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
30  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
31  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
32  FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.4]
33  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
**  Hentai Mania.esp
34  Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp
35  Romuska Fantasy Store.esp
36  Scribe Supplies.esp
37  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
38  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
39  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
3A  Zira's Clydesdale Horses.esp
3B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
3C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
3D  DLCFrostcrag.esp
3E  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
3F  Knights.esp
40  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
41  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
42  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
43  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
44  xulTheHeath.esp
45  XulEntiusGorge.esp
46  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
47  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
48  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
49  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
4A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
4B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]
4C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
4D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
4E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
4F  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
50  xulPantherRiver.esp
51  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
52  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
53  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
54  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
55  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
56  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
57  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
58  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]
59  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
5A  Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp
5B  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
5C  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
5D  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
5E  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
++  more books teach.esp
5F  movablebodies.esp
60  Slof's Epona.esp
61  Smite of Order.esp
62  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
63  SetBody.esp
64  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
65  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp
++  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
66  actors_in_charge.esp
67  77_Umpa_Animation.esp
68  shinyEmotions.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
69  Cosmetic Compilation.esp
6A  Hidden_Elves.esp  [Version 1.1]
6B  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
6C  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
6D  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
6E  Better Cities Full.esp
6F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
70  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
71  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
72  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
73  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
74  Better Imperial City.esp
75  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
76  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
77  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
78  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
79  Get Wet.esp
7A  QTdof.esp
7B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
7C  Streamline 3.1.esp
7D  Beast Tongue  Evolved.esp
7E  shinyFollowMe.esp

 

 

New load order. I also want to say that I really appreciate the help. You've been very patient with me and it's very kind of you. So, thank you.

[ArmeniusLOD]

"Import NPC Faces" is part of the Bashed Patch. It should be in the list on the left when you rebuild it. If it isn't then you need to upgrade Wrye Bash to version 287.

 

To figure out which mod is causing the problem you can try deactivating them one-by-one until Oblivion runs, or start out with the vanilla game and add them one-by-one until it crashes again.

 

I didn't notice before, but it looks like you are using Armamentarium 1.1. Armamentarium Complete 1-35 has plugins that make it compatible with OOO. You might want to try upgrading to that version and see if it works. It's a bigger download, though.