How does a morph's shape go MIA?

[Vaz2008]

Downloading character creation mods individually and building a custom chargenmorphcfg.xml (because I refuse to install the CharGen Toolset pack from the DAO-Modmanager Override Collection), I seem to have satisfied every requirement of the Edric face morph except one. Whatever I'm missing, this is its effect:

 

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6591/edricfail.jpg

 

The only reason I'm posting is because I can't imagine what would cause a custom *.mop file to, upon being loaded into the game, lose all of its custom shape settings and default to the bald preset. What kind of file might I be missing?

 

P.S. It's not a problem with chargenmorphcfg.xml, which is valid in terms of XML syntax and in terms of referring to files that actually do exist in the override folder.

[danscott84]

There is one mod that I know of that will do this. Do you have realistic Teeth installed? If the custom morph is not made with RT listed as a requirement, then the face will not keep it's shape because of a flaw with the RT model used. In this case you will have to chose which mod to use, the custom morph or the RT mod.

 

EDIT:

The reverse is also true here. If this requires RT, and you do not have it installed, then it will also revert to a vanilla shape or not use the mop file at all.

 

A second thought also along this line if the problem is not RT then what is the file named, and do you have another mop file using the same space? The file should be named hm_cps_pXX.mop where the XX is the number of the preset 01 to 09. You may also be limited to just using 02 to 08 depending on which version of the CC you are using.

[Vaz2008]

The file's name is nam_edric_01.mop, and I added it to the list of human male heads as a separate entry rather than renaming the file itself to replace an existing preset.

 

       <human_male>
		<resource name="hm_cousland.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P01.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P01_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P02.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P02_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P03.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P03_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P04.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P04_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P05.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P05_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P06.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P06_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P07.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P07_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_CPS_P08.mop"/>
		<resource name="HM_CPS_P08_vc_b.mop"/>
           <resource name="HM_PCC_B01.mop"/> <!-- Has no VirusCat version. -->
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_01.mop"/> <!-- Hairy Heroes begin here -->
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_02.mop"/>
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_03.mop"/>
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_04.mop"/>
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_05.mop"/>
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_06.mop"/>
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_07.mop"/>
		<resource name="hm_gmhomf_08.mop"/> <!-- Hairy Heroes end here -->
		<resource name="nam_edric_01.mop"/> <!-- Edric, srsly FUBAR. -->
       </human_male>

 

Realistic Teeth...I thought that might be the problem, but I was really hoping it wasn't because I don't know how to install it (I currently do not have it) as a resource rather than in its fully active NPC-faces-breaking form. :confused: Any ideas?

[danscott84]

Ok, does not look like RT is a problem. However, try hm_nam_edric_01.mop or hm_edric_02.mop. It needs the hm at the beginning to know what race to assign it to. For reference, check my mod's decription here for the definitions of the different race prefixes:

 

http://www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1256

 

EDIT: I can't remember if WolfheartHU put these definitions on the hairy heros we did or not. Going by your chargen it looks like they should be working, however.

[Vaz2008]

Tried the following, with the filename and its chargen entry both changed to the same thing at the same time of course:

hm_edric_01.mop

hm_nam_edric_01.mop

hm_edric_02.mop

No luck.

 

What made you decide that Realistic Teeth isn't the issue?

[danscott84]

Tried the following, with the filename and its chargen entry both changed to the same thing at the same time of course:

hm_edric_01.mop

hm_nam_edric_01.mop

hm_edric_02.mop

No luck.

 

What made you decide that Realistic Teeth isn't the issue?

 

I didn't see it on the list. Unless I missed something and it is needed. Since you said you did not have it installed, and I didn't see it on the list, figured it was not the cause. However, if I am wrong on either point it's back in play. And it's an all or none kind of mod since it's not a texture replacer like tattoo mods, but a complete model replacer.

[danscott84]

We also discussed a similar issue in another thread here:

 

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/240978-help-with-faces/

 

Might try this method to see if it works. If not, send DarkeWolf a PM and see if he might know an way to get it to work. He's pretty knowledgable about the chargen xml, and is now a moderator also. RustyBlade or Thandal might also know if DW doesn't. Otherwise, we've tried the tricks I can think of.

[RustyBlade]

Keresthus could you post a zipped or rarred copy of your chargenmorphcfg.xml along with what you have named the mop file? It might give us a better idea of what is going wrong.

[Vaz2008]

Here you go: http://www.mediafire.com/?1q8ppc18ecnlxny

 

The morph is currently named hm_edric.mop.

[RustyBlade]

I don't see any errors in your chargen file.

 

I took a look at the mop and I believe I found the problem. The mop is a mor that has been renamed and that will not work. In fact, what they are calling a mop is identical in size and content to the mor file they give you for use with the face replacer. The reason it will not work for you is the creator did not make a mop file and no amount of trying will ever get a mor to work in the chargen screen. Simply renaming a mor to a mop does not work, the toolset must be set to export a mop. Sorry but the only way you will get that face in your game is to start a character and use the face replacer. You don't need to download the file for it, all you need to do is rename the one you have to a mor file (since that is what it really is) and it will change out.