spoiler Funny Glitch

[Alehazar]

I have all the DLC's installed, including the Witch Hunt 1.1 patch. This patch was applied after the 1.04 patch -I also have Awakenings. (Yes I first installed Origins, then Awakenings, then the patch). Since I was forced to make a reinstall (I tried to make a mod myself which completely disabled my game), I'm suffering from the bug where Morrigan won't teach the Shapeshifter specialisation, regardless of my Approval rating with her.

(I also have a mod installed that allows me to romance Morrigan as a female PC)

 

First I will describe some of the decisions I made along the way, to see whether someone recognises something that might contribute to this glitch.

If you simply want to see what the glitch is, scroll all the way down.

 

I started out as a female human mage, who dislikes the Tower and resents the presence of the Templars.

I help Jowan escape and upset Irving. I badmouth Greagoir and leave with Duncan.

In Ostagar I boast my abilities as a mage to all and everyone, I refuse to help the deserter and after 2 rejections I finally help the Kennel Master -after my Joining.

In Lothering I choose not to help Elder Miriam, I help the Crooked Merchant and I turn away Leliana in the tavern. I turn her away as I try to leave Lothering.

I threaten the Revered Mother to get Sten. I don't help the robbed Elves and I tell the little boy that his mother is dead. I threaten to kill the ranting Chasind and after he takes off I tell the people of Lothering that I really don't care.

(Strangely, I kill the bandits that greet me when I arrive in Lothering, but apparently my options with Ser Bryant is that he needs to send out his men to deal with them -that's basically the first little glitch).

I perform the Job Board jobs of the Chanter, but ignore the Blackstone Irregulars.

I specialise as a Blood Mage

Then I exit to Camp. (I make Bodahn pay for his timely rescue; 200 pieces)

I go to Orzammar to do some shopping and then to Denerim to acquire more stuff. I deal with the Backstreet Justice Quest, tell Ser Landry to s*d off and I kill him and his men when he pops up while traveling the Denerim map. I visit Wade, Wonders of Thedas, Gorim and the Chanter's Board. I accept some board quests that can only be resolved later in the game and the one called Loghain's Push. I deal with them and visit the merchant who starts the Golem in Honnleath Quest (Stone Prisoner DLC). Instead of going to Honnleath I go to Redcliffe and decide not to help Teagan. I do give Jetta the lockbox, talk to Kaitlyn and tell her I do not intend to fight for Redcliffe. I do visit Dwynn's house and tell him what a sensible dwarf he is. I also visit Bevin, intimidate him into relinquishing the key. I visit the house of the guy who has signed a form for the Irregulars, only to click on his bookcase to get Codex entry. I leave Redcliffe and go to Camp. As the cutscene won't trigger I move to Denerim to report to the Chanter's Board. The cutscene plays and I return to Redcliffe, confront the scavenger and revive Teagan. I'm rather rude to him and meet him by the mill. I'm mistrusting Isolde and tell Teagan he is expendable.

I fight my way into the castle, refuse to tell Jowan what happened to Lily, but I do turn him loose, telling him I don't care what he does.

After my confrontation with Connor I simply state that someone is going to die regardless and Isolde offers herself to be the sacrifice. I say I need more time to think things over. Instead I ransack the rest of the castle. I return to Isolde and let Jowan cast the ritual.

I confront the Demon myself and make a deal for the talent book. Afterwards I return to camp expecting Alistair to berate me for sacrificing Isolde.

 

HERE'S THE GLITCH:

 

He says he wants to talk to me about what happened at Redcliffe.

I reply that I thought things turned out rather well and he starts thanking me for going out of my way for trying to save the Arl's family and doing just that !

My Approval with Alistair goes up 7 points !

I mean, WHAT?

Anyone else encounter something similar: Does anyone know what might cause such a glitch?

[RustyBlade]

I tell the little boy that his mother is dead.

 

You're mean :laugh:

 

(Strangely, I kill the bandits that greet me when I arrive in Lothering, but apparently my options with Ser Bryant is that he needs to send out his men to deal with them -that's basically the first little glitch).

 

Not a glitch - one of them ran away. You probably chose the option "you don't really want to mess with a mage/warden..."

 

(I make Bodahn pay for his timely rescue; 200 pieces)

 

Wow, I've got to try that :thumbsup:

 

He says he wants to talk to me about what happened at Redcliffe.

I reply that I thought things turned out rather well and he starts thanking me for going out of my way for trying to save the Arl's family and doing just that !

 

That is messed up :confused: You have not done any actions that would cause that. Do you have any mods installed other than official DLC? Have you used the console; specifically any of the debug routines? Only thing I can think of to try (without any more information) would be to disable the last four DLC's (uncheck) until you are ready to use them as they can cause problems but this is a new one on me.

[Thandal]

Not the specific question you're asking about, but the "Morrigan won't teach shapeshifting" is a known bug in the vanilla game.

 

This from the Readme in 'Qwinn's Unoffical Fixpack v2.0':

 

"10. (v2.0) Morrigan will now offer to teach shapeshifting based upon the intended criteria. If she was at least warm or interested, she would *not* teach it, the opposite was intended."

[Alehazar]

I tell the little boy that his mother is dead.

 

You're mean :laugh:

 

I'm a Blood Mage; since I like to Roleplay, my demeanor leans towards "evil".

 

(Strangely, I kill the bandits that greet me when I arrive in Lothering, but apparently my options with Ser Bryant is that he needs to send out his men to deal with them -that's basically the first little glitch).

 

Not a glitch - one of them ran away. You probably chose the option "you don't really want to mess with a mage/warden..."

 

Yep, you're right; the big dopey one. I remember now.

 

(I make Bodahn pay for his timely rescue; 200 pieces)

 

Wow, I've got to try that :thumbsup:

 

Ask for a reward; he offers a hundred. Manage to successfully use the consecutive Persuasion option and he'll double it.

 

He says he wants to talk to me about what happened at Redcliffe.

I reply that I thought things turned out rather well and he starts thanking me for going out of my way for trying to save the Arl's family and doing just that !

 

That is messed up :confused: You have not done any actions that would cause that. Do you have any mods installed other than official DLC? Have you used the console; specifically any of the debug routines? Only thing I can think of to try (without any more information) would be to disable the last four DLC's (uncheck) until you are ready to use them as they can cause problems but this is a new one on me.

 

I stay away from the Debug routines; only Console command I sometimes use is to kill all hostiles -only when my game crashes right before I (barely) tend to win a difficult boss fight and I really hate it to have to make the effort all over again.

Most mods I have installed are texture replacers.

And the occasional Sexy armor for my mage and rogue (a lot of it is TnT)

Another mod is a fix for the Ancient Elven Boots; a mod that adds skill and talent books to my inventory, but I use those sparingly as I know that too many talents early in the game can cause the game to glitch at higher levels; a mod that changes the Red Color of my Health bar to a Bright Green one (I'm somewhat colorblind); the Equal Love mod, so I can romance Morrigan with a female PC; all the race installments of Sex Cutscenes Always Play; Witch Robe for Elves; a mod that adds Morrigan's robe to my inventory without the Restriction.

That's pretty much it. Then of course the Rewards from the DLC's when you finish them.

 

Then again, when I DO go out of my way to save the Arl's family, my Codex (under the Character Tab) updates that Lady Isolde gave her life for her son -but then she still lives. As does Connor. No deals with the Demon either; it is cast out.

 

(As an aside: sometimes Athras doesn't give me the Amulet he promised me if I found his wife Danyla -Nature of the Beast Quest; and I give him the scarf and everything. I'm still trying to figure out, under what conditions this glitch occurs.

Also, when I decide to kill Brother Genitivi, his Codex Entry updates that he was never seen again, PLUS that he did find the Urn and returned safely to Denerim)

Edited October 3, 2010 by Alehazar

[RustyBlade]

None of the mods you listed would cause those glitches so I'm back to recommending you disable the last four DLC's as they have been known to bug things (you can keep the "bonus" items enabled though.)