Oblivion not starting after adding mods?

[Confessore]

Here is my situation:

 

I have just received a copy of Oblivion for PC (new to computer gaming; not to the game), and of course, I wanted to add mods. I had a lot of trouble getting mods running at first, but after a lot of tutorials I got the hang of it. But, it's only today that I started installing a lot of them, one after the other. Now, I'm not sure why, but after trying to start the game multiple times, even through OBSE, it won't work. A black window appears, followed by seemingly another one, it fades in and out a few times, then gives up.

 

I suspect it may have something to do with the load order, the amount of mods, the incompatibility between them or the fact that OBSE didn't seem to have installed properly (it said it did but a race mod requiring it wouldn't work because said file needed Oblivion script extender). In any case, I hope it won't be too difficult to correct this unfortunate problem, as I am quite new to any kind of modification.

 

If my load order is required to find a solution, here it is:

Alivewaters - Koi add on.esp

Alivewaters - Slaughterfish add on.esp

Alivewaters.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp (unactivated; creates huge yellow boxes where wine and alcohol should be)

Auto Book Placer.esp

AWS - Main.esp

AWS - Water.esp

Big Crab Mod.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Books of Oblivion.esp

Bow of Quel'Thalas.esp

CharGenAmulet.esp

Druid.esp

EyeStyle2.esp

Fantasy Mod.esp

Hentai Mania.esp

hilarity_121.esp

Horadric Cube.esm

Horadric Cube.esp

Horadric Cube.gem.lvlist.ovveride.esp

Horadric Cube.gem.ovveride.esp

Horadric Cube.gem.swap.esp

Horadric Cube.SI.esp (unactivated; I don't have Shivering Isles)

Kunai.esp

LevelerCheat.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Location Names with Enemy Tags.esp

MidasSpells.esp

New FrostMourne Sword by JojjoV1_0.esp

Oblivion Achievements CORE version.esm

Oblivion Achievements CORE.esp

Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp

Oblivion.esm

Omegas Crazy Amulets.esp

PCSoundCernd.esp

PTArtifacts.esp

Quest Award Leveler.esp

Rooftop Rewards.esp

ShadowCrest_Vineyard.esp

SK_Berserk_V0.6.esp

The Sword of Truth.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

wd purse of wonders.esp

Wolven Anthros.esp (unactivated; said file that apparently won't work because OBSE isn't installed)

za_bankmod.esp

_Ren_Beautypack_full.esp

 

If more information is required to solve my problem, I will do what I can to provide it.

[Shadowfen]

Here is my situation:

 

I have just received a copy of Oblivion for PC (new to computer gaming; not to the game), and of course, I wanted to add mods. I had a lot of trouble getting mods running at first, but after a lot of tutorials I got the hang of it. But, it's only today that I started installing a lot of them, one after the other. Now, I'm not sure why, but after trying to start the game multiple times, even through OBSE, it won't work. A black window appears, followed by seemingly another one, it fades in and out a few times, then gives up.

 

I suspect it may have something to do with the load order, the amount of mods, the incompatibility between them or the fact that OBSE didn't seem to have installed properly (it said it did but a race mod requiring it wouldn't work because said file needed Oblivion script extender). In any case, I hope it won't be too difficult to correct this unfortunate problem, as I am quite new to any kind of modification.

 

If my load order is required to find a solution, here it is:

....

 

If more information is required to solve my problem, I will do what I can to provide it.

 

That list is of the mods that you load but it is in alphabetical order, not the order that they load in - at least I hope so since Oblivion.esm should be the first thing loaded, not the twentysomethingth.

 

I would recommend that you acquire and use BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) to do an initial rearrangement of your load order. Then read the report it provides for things it tells you might need to be fixed and fix them.

 

(Posting that report here can help others to help you as it will be closer to your real load order than an alphabetical list.)

[Confessore]

That list is of the mods that you load but it is in alphabetical order, not the order that they load in - at least I hope so since Oblivion.esm should be the first thing loaded, not the twentysomethingth.

 

I would recommend that you acquire and use BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) to do an initial rearrangement of your load order. Then read the report it provides for things it tells you might need to be fixed and fix them.

 

(Posting that report here can help others to help you as it will be closer to your real load order than an alphabetical list.)

I downloaded BOSS, followed the instructions carefully, yet it didn't seem to work. I ran the exe file at first apparently, so I then ran the bat file, which just resulted in a black window rapidly (and I mean VERY quickly) searching through names. I suppose it was the mods, but I'd have expected a longer process.

 

But, I didn't get any report of any kind. I went and read more carefully the read me for BOSS, and saw something about "unknown files" I didn't quite understand. I then proceeded to use OBMM, and saw that the grand majority of my mods were classed as unknown. I don't know why it appeared as such, neither why it still didn't work, or if it changes anything.

 

Oh, and yes, that list I had posted was indeed the load order, not just the alphabetical one.

Edited October 3, 2010 by Confessore

[Confessore]

Alright, I have made some researched, and did what was necessary to run BOSS on Windows 7. It gave me this:

 

Oblivion.esm

. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

 

Horadric Cube.esm

 

Toaster Says Share v3.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.

. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

 

LoadingScreens.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}

 

PCSoundCernd.esp

 

AliveWaters.esp

 

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

 

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

 

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}}

 

CharGenAmulet.esp

 

Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp

 

wd purse of wonders.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}

 

Fantasy Mod.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}}

 

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

 

Omegas Crazy Amulets.esp

 

PTArtifacts.esp

 

SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp

 

The Sword of Truth.esp

 

trfjChronoStaff.esp

 

trfjBladeMasterSword.esp

 

trfjEmpireGreatsword.esp

 

trfjSolarisStaff.esp

 

Thieves Arsenal.esp

. Requires: OBSE.

 

LevelerCheat.esp

 

Hentai Mania.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Invent,Scripts}}

 

Oblivion Achievements Core.esp

 

za_bankmod.esp

. Note: For use with Better Cities use replacing fix for BBC.

 

Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp

 

AutoBookPlacer.esp

 

Horadric Cube.esp

 

Horadric Cube.SI.esp

 

Horadric Cube.gem.swap.esp

 

Horadric Cube.gem.override.esp

 

Horadric Cube.gem.lvlist.override.esp

 

Quest Award Leveller.esp

 

hilarity_121.esp

 

Master_of_Puppets-7132.esp

 

MidasSpells.esp

 

Druid.esp

 

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics}}

 

TSS Custom Companion Template.esp

 

Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unrecognised mod files:

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Unknown mod file: Oblivion Achievements CORE Version.esm

Unknown mod file: EyeStyle2.esp

Unknown mod file: Kunai.esp

Unknown mod file: big crab mod.esp

Unknown mod file: WeatherBook.esp

Unknown mod file: Books of Oblivion.esp

Unknown mod file: AWS-Water.esp

Unknown mod file: AWS-Main.esp

Unknown mod file: Rooftop Rewards cleaned.esp

Unknown mod file: Location Names With Enemy Tags.esp

Unknown mod file: Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Unknown mod file: Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

Unknown mod file: Wolven Anthros.esp

Unknown mod file: Bow of Quel'Thalas.esp

 

What does that tell me? In other words, what should I do next?

[Confessore]

Oops, sorry, I accidentally double-posted. My bad :unsure:

[bben46]

This could be the problem

 

Thieves Arsenal.esp

. Requires: OBSE.

 

If you do not have OBSE (Oblivion Script Extender) Or are not starting the game using the OBSE launcher and NOT the Oblivion launcher it can crash on start when you have a mod that requires it.

 

OBSE is not a mod and does not install like a mod - so read the directions first.

http://obse.silverlock.org/

 

I also recommend OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager) for making the manual changes to your load list.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2097

 

Again, not a mod but a utility program that doesn't install like a mod.

[Confessore]

This could be the problem

 

Thieves Arsenal.esp

. Requires: OBSE.

 

If you do not have OBSE (Oblivion Script Extender) Or are not starting the game using the OBSE launcher and NOT the Oblivion launcher it can crash on start when you have a mod that requires it.

 

OBSE is not a mod and does not install like a mod - so read the directions first.

http://obse.silverlock.org/

 

I also recommend OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager) for making the manual changes to your load list.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2097

 

Again, not a mod but a utility program that doesn't install like a mod.

Well, I have tried countless times to install OBSE, but it seems it just wants to know nothing of me. I went on tutorial videos, forums, the official website and about everywhere else, testing it every now and then, but without success. So I just deactivated every mod in OBMM, and progressively put them back on, checking with the software if it conflicts or not. If it does, I just uncheck the file and it goes into Oblivion... Literally.

 

I assume I am doomed to an existence that isn't perfectly balanced, though it barely surprises me.