Ramagast Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 So, I'm playing with quite an extensive mod order and NPC's suddenly stopped to give me misc quests. Like in Dawnstar where blacksmith wants you to find a book or the alchemist wants you to find her husband's ring. Now they just don't have these dialogue options. It happens to all vanilla NPC in all settlements. It was fine at the beginning of the playthrough, but somewhere in the middle of the road it's just happened - you just come to the new city and there are no misc quests for you anymore.It also wasn't the first playthrough in which it happened, but I just can't identify the trigger and since the issue never occurs in the new game I can't pinpoint it simply by disabling the mods one by one and starting new game again and again. So, anyone ran into the same problem before? Maybe even identified the culprit?Just in case - my save file is clean and my script lag is minimal (I'm using built-in tool from the "Convinient Horses" mod to check it). The problem isn't remedied by saving and reloading your game. Other dialogue is normal. Side quests aren't missing, only the misc ones.
Demonikone Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) try that, www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?c maybe check wyrebash too and see what mods arnt green etc, sadly im not overly familiar with this issue, but yeah if ur running more that 140-150 mods you can start to expect trouble with memory rtch which could be part the problem, either that or something dosent agree with something, or your load order isnt right i run 150 odd mods and fount that loot's load order didnt work, i had to do mine manually... wish i could be more help, sorry Edited January 12, 2015 by Demonikone
Ramagast Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks =)I'm using Save Cleaner, yes, and my save file is clean. I'm using LOOT as framework, adjusting load order manually when needed.I think that I'm dealing with some rare mod conflict and when one of these mods starts its quest (which may happen in the middle of any playthrough) - BAM! Another mod triggers conflict and makes quests disappear.For now my best hope is to find someone else with this issue so we can at least compare our mod lists. I just fear that with all these new active topics, this one will sink to the depths of oblivion before it happens.
Demonikone Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Yeha i just had to rebuild my skyrim yesterday due to a similar thing, but i was suffering 5 min crashs, can u post ur load order for me? I will see if i spot anything that may help
Ramagast Posted January 12, 2015 Author Posted January 12, 2015 My, it's gonna be a long one.Also, I have a few crushes but they are more of a natural type. Play for a couple hours straight and Skyrim just needs a break.And it goes like this: Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1EFFCore.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1JSwords.esm=0Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1Dr_BandolierDG.esp=0RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1VioLens.esp=183Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1UIExtensions.esp=1Resplendent - The Races Package.esp=1Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1JaxonzRenamer.esp=1LeftHandRings.esp=1ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=0SimpleTaxes.esp=1You Hunger.esp=1HitStop.esp=1Footprints.esp=1more plants all extra.esp=1lanterns.esp=1BetterWhitePhialEffects.esp=1HF_MobilePlanters.esp=1Footprints - Ash.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1Piratelords Loot Adjustments.esp=1iHUD.esp=1IridumEyes2.0.esp=1JaxonzLightsPlease.esp=1LootandDegradation.esp=1UltimateCombat.esp=1Vividian - 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Demonikone Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) you right, thats a fair list :tongue: ok so u dont run alternitive start? but u do run helgen reborn, not sure but i have heard the later is a bit glitchy and not overly compatible... though as i said "heard" and i have little experience in that... other than that, gimme a few to do some looking and see what i can dig up AchieveThat.esp=1 ( are you getting strange $ sign bug with that? i saw a few people having issues with this ) Edited January 12, 2015 by Demonikone
Ramagast Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 I don't have strange signs with AchieveThat (none that I can remember, anyway). Helgen Reborn somewhat bothers me, as it's one of the few mods I've installed in the middle of the game (it breaks game intro if used from the beginning and requires a few days to pass before you can activate its quest). No Alternative Start also - I've used it during the wild experiments with different mod combinations, but this time I was more interested in the stability.
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