Cammen's Lament Alternative SPOILERS

[manlyMAN0890]

SPOILERS ABOUND! TURN BACK NOW, IF THOU VALUEST THINE VIRGIN EYES!

In short: I've always wanted to be able to convince Cammen to enter the forest with me to protect him. That is my request. Read on if you are either a modder or don't care for the spoiler.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What if we convinced Cammen to come with us to hunt down an animal and set him up for a clean kill? Here's how I would propose it:

 

First the Warden suggests that Cammen enter the forest and do it himself. If it says "Less" it means the check is less challenging. Same for "More."

Options that would lead to the Warden's involvement as a protector. Not all dialogue options are displayed.

A

Less(Persuade)Surely the Keeper wouldn't mind if I were there to protect you. I am a Warden, after all.

More(Persuade[lie])I spoke with the Keeper about it. He said he wouldn't mind.

That's too bad. I could come with you.{Leads to B}

 

B

Less(Persuade)Surely the Keeper wouldn't mind if I were there to protect you. I am a Warden, after all.

More(Persuade[lie])I spoke with the Keeper about it. He said he wouldn't mind.

Less(Intimidate)You would turn down the protection of a Warden? Geyna is right. You will never be a hunter!

If I can convince the Keeper, will you hunt with me then?

 

Talking to the Keeper:

A

Cammen has been thinking of going into the forest to hunt on his own. You should speak with him.

Cammen wants to become a hunter. You should let him enter the forest.{Leads to B}

 

B

More(Persuade)I could take him with me. I will ensure his protection from any werewolves.

Less(Persuade)I have been through the forest before. Fewer werewolves will pose a threat.{Only available if the Warden has gone through the forest to the region where the Mad Hermit resides}

 

If the Warden succesfully persuaded the Keeper, he can return to Kammen and inform him. Upon informing him, Kammen will follow. His behavior as an NPC will be the same as Levi Dryden's in Soldier's Peak.

 

The quest will set up a cutscene when in the forest. When hostiles have been eliminated(if any are encountered before the dead end where there are bears), Cammen and the Warden will sneak up on a few bears. Cammen will nail the clean kill, alerting the bears. The Warden defends him. Upon elimination of all hostiles, a cutscene of them returning to the camp will be shown. Cammen and Geyna will be standing together as they have been if the Warden had convinced Geyna to bond with Cammen without him first completing hs rite of passage. She will complement on his completion of the rite, and Cammen will return with reverence for her acceptance. If Morrigan is present, her approval will go down by 10 instead of 5 since the Warden went out of his way to make it possible. When Geyna and Cammen thank the Warden by giving him the book, he can ask for an additional reward in the form of a pelt, which can then be given to the Hermit in exchange for an object for value, as well as the book.

 

Any takers?

[Chiramu]

Wouldn't new dialogue for Cammen need to be recorded? That would be a bit hard considering he has already been cast and voiced, unless the modder can employ an experienced voice actor to work for free lol.

[Meneldur]

you could just use the existing files to make new ones, i think cammen says about enough words to cut them into the right order....

if not then just replace those sentences witch do not fit with some which would.......

[manlyMAN0890]

Oh I don't know :D I just want to be able to do it. Voice would be nice, but not really necessary.