Smooth613 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Are you sure you're turning Lock Times off in Wrye Bash before you run BOSS? Your LO is STILL screwed up. Look where your Bashed Patch is... It's before all the mods that are merged and deactivated. Then you have 6 random mods just pop up near the bottom. Until you have a proper LO it's pointless to troubleshoot other things, since it's likely that a bad LO is causing crashes. 1. Turn off Lock Times in Bash.2. Make sure you have the most recent masterlist. 17, Oct, 2010 is most recent. BOSS @ Nexus3. Run BOSS4. Deactivate Bashed Patch (uncheck it)5. Rebuild Patch6. Activate the Patch7. Post new LO using the list Wrye Bash provides. Copy EVERYTHING including the [spoiler tags] Makes the post much easier to read, shortens length. A correct LO is so important for a stable game and right now, you don't have a correct LO. This may be the very reason for your problems. Below I have posted my LO as an example of how you should post it and a general idea of the latest masterlist. Compare the mods we have in common and look how out of place the corresponding mods are on your list. The DLC for example. Not to mention you have some DLC only virtually active, which will not suffice for certain content. Virtually active indicator is this " ** " Fully merged is this " ++ " Fully active is simply a Hex number such as this " B9 " Anyway here is my LO, compare it to yours and you'll see a major difference. Keep in mind I have a custom userlist so certain mods are hand placed. But for the most part this is the most recent LO output from BOSS. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Jog_X_Mod.esm 02 ScreenEffects.esm 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.0] 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 05 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 06 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1] 07 BetterMusicSystem.esm 08 AFC v2 Core.esm 09 HorseCombatMaster.esm ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.1] 0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 0D Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 0E All Natural.esp [Version 1.0] 0F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.0] ++ All Natural - Bravil Mages Fix.esp ++ All Natural - SI Settlements NIW Support.esp 10 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.7] 11 Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp [Version 0.7] 12 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp ** LoadingScreens.esp ++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1] ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 13 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.0] 14 WindowLightingSystem.esp 15 AliveWaters.esp 16 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 17 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 18 AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp 19 AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp 1A Book Jackets Oblivion.esp ++ Cobl Bookjackets.esp 1B ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp 1C diversegrasses.esp 1D ImprovedSigns.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] 1E P1DseeYouSleep.esp 1F Spell Delete.esp 20 Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1] 21 Crowded Roads Revisited_ChorrolCheydinhal_5.esp 22 Crowded Roads Revisited_YellowRoad_5.esp 23 Crowded Roads Revisited_GoldRoad_10.esp 24 Crowded Roads Revisited_GreenRoad_10.esp 25 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] 26 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.7] 27 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5] 28 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 1.4] 29 DLCHorseArmor.esp 2A DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2B DLCOrrery.esp 2C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 2D DLCVileLair.esp 2E DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2F P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp 30 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 31 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 32 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ Book Jackets DLC.esp ++ GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp 33 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp ++ CM_Better Wine_SI.esp 34 PTArtifacts.esp 35 Sin's Expanded Light Armor Kit [NPC].esp 36 RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp 37 RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp 38 RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp 39 RealSwords - Nord LO-NPC SI.esp 3A RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp 3B DLCThievesDen.esp 3C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 3E Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 3F Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35] 40 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] ++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35] 41 OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp 42 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1] ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0] 43 BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2] 44 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.7] 45 Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp [Version 2.2] 46 thievery.esp 47 Unique Dungeons - Lichs Lair.esp 48 Unique Dungeons - Lost Glory.esp 49 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 4A DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 4B DLCFrostcrag.esp 4C DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 4D Knights.esp 4E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 4F ElsweyrAnequina.esp 50 Faregyl.esp [Version 1.0.10] 51 Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp 52 BetterMusicSystem CY+SI+EL.esp [Version 1.0] ++ AleswellNoRefractFix.esp 53 Curseman's Anti Extinction Mod.esp 54 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp 55 DS Portable Sorters.esp [Version 1.1] 56 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp 57 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp 58 Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [Version 1.2] 59 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 5A Enhanced Vegetation [110%].esp 5B Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] 5C RealisticHealth.esp 5D RealisticForceMedium.esp 5E Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp 5F RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.4.2] 60 EnchantmentMastery.esp 61 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp 62 attack and hide harder v2.0.esp 63 sycHearNoEvil.esp [Version 1.0] 64 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] 65 Denock Arrows.esp 66 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp 67 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 68 Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp 69 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1] 6A Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp 6B Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 3.2] ** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp ** Cava Obscura - SI.esp ** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp 6C Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] 6D MRP - Autosaving.esp 6E MRP - Cant Equip Item.esp 6F MRP - Fast travel unavailable.esp 70 MRP - Horse stabled outside gate.esp 71 MRP - Loading area.esp 72 MRP - Not enough charge.esp 73 MRP - You find nothing of use.esp 74 MRP - You successfully harvest.esp ++ [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp 75 Chameleon-NoRefraction-2411.esp 76 GW71_Life_Detect.esp ++ Real Lava 1.3.esp ++ ForeverView.esp 77 ScreenControls.esp 78 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0] 79 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 7A MyCustomPatch01.esp 7B Streamline 3.1.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalba Posted October 18, 2010 Author Share Posted October 18, 2010 00 Oblivion.esm01 Jog_X_Mod.esm02 ScreenEffects.esm03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.0]04 Children Of Rourken.esm05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]06 Qarls_Harvest.esm07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.5.5b4]09 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.8b5]0A CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]0C BathingMod_Base.esm0D CURP_Controller.esm0E No Lights Flicker.esm0F CM Partners.esm10 Toaster Says Share v3.esm11 HorseCombatMaster.esm12 Oblivion Achievements CORE Version.esm13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]14 DLCShiveringIsles.esp15 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]16 LoadingScreensAddOn.esp17 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp18 All Natural.esp [Version 1.0]19 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.0]1A Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp++ phinix-waterfix.esp1B MIS.esp1C MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp1D Atmospheric Oblivion.esp1E Distant Chapel Bells.esp1F Rainbows.esp20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.0]21 Cities Alive At Night.esp22 WindowLightingSystem.esp23 AliveWaters.esp24 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp25 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp26 Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp27 Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp** Book Jackets Oblivion.esp** Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp28 BookTrackerOBSE.esp29 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp2A FantasyPaintings.esp2B GoldnSilverBars.esp++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]2C KB - House of Wonders.esp2D MM_TextLocks.esp2E MYR_AyleidExtensions.esp2F Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp30 OL_CustomPaintings.esp++ Oscars_Nicer_Grass-3346.esp31 Qarls_Harvest.esp32 Reznod_Mannequin.esp++ VA_BetterGold.esp** Wyverex's - Runes.esp33 Living Economy - SI.esp34 Living Economy - Items.esp35 FF_Real_Thirst.esp36 Streamline 3.1.esp37 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.6]38 Improved Hotkeys_Extended.esp [Version 1.1]** DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]** DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]39 DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]3A Action_Figures_Series1.esp3B Action_Figures_Series2.esp3C Battlespire Books.esp3D Binoculars.esp3E Classic Books.esp3F KDDwemerSpectacles.esp40 KohdiAnduril.esp41 PTArtifacts.esp42 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]43 AncientTowers.esp** DLCThievesDen.esp** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]44 ExnemRuneskulls.esp45 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]46 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]47 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]48 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]49 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]4A Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.8b5]4B Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]4C Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]4D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.5.5b3]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]4E Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]4F Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]++ TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]50 TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]++ Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp [Version 1.39c]++ TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp [Version 1.39c]51 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]52 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]53 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]++ Atmospheric Oblivion - OOO Patch.esp54 Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp55 Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp56 Imperial Furniture Renovated - Patch.esp57 Armageddon.esp58 Cathedral Improver.esp59 (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp5A Fort Colovia.esp5B GTAesgaard.esp5C lpBladesExpanded.esp5D Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp5E JolardHome.esp5F kingdomofAlmar.esp60 kingdomofAlamar_OOO.esp61 KvatchRising.esp62 EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]63 LetThePeopleDrink-Cobl.esp [Version 2.5]64 LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp65 LostSwordOfTheAylied - Claymore Add-On.esp66 mrSiikas_TheEmperorsTomb.esp67 mrSiikas_DwemerTechnology_DwemerSubway.esp68 Buddah Statues.esp69 Museum.esp6A nazarianlibraryV3beta.esp6B Sheogoraths_Accords_of_Madness.esp6C The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]6D The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp6E TheElderCouncil.esp6F TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp70 thievery.esp** TR_Stirk.esp71 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp72 WOTFH_1.3.esp73 za_bankmod.esp74 Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp75 DLCFrostcrag.esp** DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]76 Knights.esp77 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]78 NLF Knights.esp79 TOTF.esp7A CUO_Bravil.esp7B The Lost Spires.esp7C Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 7.3]7D The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp7E TheNecromancer.esp7F BrewHouse.esp80 ElsweyrAnequina.esp81 CUO_Chorrol.esp82 CUO_Leyawiin.esp83 CUO_Bruma.esp84 XulEntiusGorge.esp85 TheNecromancer-EntiusGorge patch.esp86 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]87 EtInArkay-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp88 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]89 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]8A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]8B xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]8C xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]8D TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8E EtInArkay-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8F xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]90 EtInArkay-AspenWood patch.esp91 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp92 RealisticFlora.esp [Version 2.7.0]93 AlendrialsLibrary.esp94 AutoBookPlacer.esp95 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.2]96 CUO_Dwemer.esp97 CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp98 CUO_MerchantsGuild_SAFE.esp++ CUO_UnLeveledPotions.esp99 CUO_MerchantUpdate_SAFE.esp++ CUO_UnleveledGuards&Legioneers_DIRTY.esp9A CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp++ CUO_UnLeveledLoot.esp++ CUO_UnLeveledVendors.esp9B CUO_UnLeveledNPCs&Creatures.esp9C DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp9D gardening.esp++ moremerchantmoneyv1.1.esp9E GP_Lockpicks.esp [Version 1.5]9F Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.1]A0 PluggyCreatedBook.esp++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]A1 Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp [Version 1.1]A2 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]A3 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]++ Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp++ Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp++ Borderless_Cyrodiil-3578.espA4 Short Grass V3.espA5 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]A6 BathingMod_Soap.espA7 BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.espA8 RealisticFatigue.espA9 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.4.2]AA PxNewVampires_NoNPC.espAB Blood Potions for Vampires.esp++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]++ SM_COBL.esp++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.86]++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]AC SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]AD SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]AE SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]AF MidasSpells.espB0 Advanced Magecraft.espB1 Skeleton Key Revised.esp [Version 2.0]B2 RenGuardOverhaul.esp++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]B3 CombatFPSOptimizer.espB4 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espB5 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espB6 Druid.esp++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.78]++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp [Version 0.78]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.5.5b4]B7 Intelligence Overhaul BJ.espB8 Toaster's Legendary Skills & Stats.esp [Version 3.44]B9 Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp [Version 3.44]++ bgBalancingEVNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp [Version 10.5DV-D]BA Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]BB 1em_Vilja.esp++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]BC bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5]BD bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]BE bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]BF bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]C0 bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]C1 ScreenControls.espC2 Oblivion Achievements CM Companions.espC3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Okay. Now your LO is looking like an actual LO that BOSS has managed. That's a good start. Now on to compatibility. I'm not going to go through your entire load list and research the compatibility of each mod, that's on you. You need to read the README for each mod and BOSS will give you many helpful suggestions too. But you actually have to read the information presented to you. Which clearly you are not. Here I'll give you an example so you'll have a place to start. The mod Book Jackets. Here I'll paste a directly copied sentence from the README. It's in section 2, Installation, which you should always read for each mod. Always check compatibility sections too, obviously you have done neither. Here is a very short exert from the README, I'm not going to copypasta everything, I feel each user needs to do some legwork on their own, especially the simple stuff like READMEs. The quote is as follows...Book Jackets: Oblivion comes in 2 flavors. One is compatible with and dependent on jepeter and Oblivionmasta's Book Placement mod. The second does not require that mod and will not take advantage of its features.In your LO I see this; ** Book Jackets Oblivion.esp** Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp I also bolded an important word in the quote which might help. I suggest you read rest of the Installation section to fully understand it. And this is a very simple mod, Book Jackets. If you neglected such information for this mod, I'm willing to bet other mods documentation was neglected too. You need to do your research and read the simple documentation included with each mod. That's why the author put it there, to avoid simple conflicts with other mods or even the mod itself in this case. So read up on the documentation, notably the installation and compatibility sections, then read the BOSS Log. You'll find lots of useful information that will lead you in the right direction for solving your problems. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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