Blindingly bright day sky, vividian enb + rcrn

[Lakan]

Hi guys, I have been having this issue where the sky is just blindingly bright. I don't know what I did in the past but it resolved it albeit I had a bit of other oddities going around so maybe I didn't really fix it, but I had to reinstall both, and now I'm back with this issue in the image below:

http://i.imgur.com/rvjQSfC.jpg

 

However, things are different when I decide to look up, directly at the sky:

http://i.imgur.com/yfcfzyv.jpg

 

So I'm not really sure what to do at this point. I imagine whatever intensity settings are different for when I look up than when I look straight into the horizon, but I've tried fiddling with the enbseries file to no avail(perhaps they weren't saved, I was editing them ingame).

I should also mention that I opted for the cinematic glare for light sources with vividian enb.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Lakan

[Mangaclub]

greetings. Your vividian looks odd. Much too dark and too much crontrast. Seems there is stuff that badly affects your imagespaces. Can you post a list of your actuall loaded plugins into pastebin ?

[Lakan]

Ahh, you're the creator of Vividian, how nice! ^_^

Skyrim.esm 
Update.esm 
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 
Dawnguard.esm 
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 
HearthFires.esm 
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 
Dragonborn.esm 
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 
EFFCore.esm 
ApachiiHair.esm 
JSwords.esm 
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 
WinterholdDestruction.esm 
SkyMoMod.esm 
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm 
ORS_MorthalPain.esm 
RE_RealEstate_Core.esp 
HighResTexturePack01.esp 
HighResTexturePack02.esp 
HighResTexturePack03.esp 
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 
Cutting Room Floor.esp 
DSerULG.esp 
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 
ETaC - Complete.esp 
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp 
Dr_BandolierDG.esp 
RaceMenuPlugin.esp 
HitStop.esp 
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 
3DNPC.esp 
3DNPCEFF.esp 
Epic Music Overhaul.esp 
UIExtensions.esp 
Exhaustion.esp 
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp 
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 
CombatDramaOverhaul.esp 
Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 
ShootingStars.esp 
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp 
Better Dynamic Snow.esp 
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp 
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp 
Helgen Reborn.esp 
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp 
ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp 
RaceMenu.esp 
SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp 
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 
PumpingIron.esp 
SkyUI.esp 
Dual Sheath Redux.esp 
TakeNotes.esp 
WetandCold.esp 
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 
Monster Wars.esp 
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 
Rebirth Monster.esp 
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 
HighElfSkinTones.esp 
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp 
SkyTEST Integration Patches.esp 
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 
WATER.esp 
RND_RWS-Patch.esp 
RND_USKP-Patch.esp 
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 
getSnowy.esp 
lanterns.esp 
winterhold_improvements.esp 
rcrnShaders.esp 
Duel - Combat Realism.esp 
RCRNdgdb.esp 
RCRNvolumetric.esp 
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 
BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp 
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 
Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp 
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 
WATER DG.esp 
ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp 
Vividian - RCRN Weather patch.esp 
RealisticNights.esp 
Supreme Fog.esp 
RealisticNightsDG.esp 
RealisticNightsDB.esp 
WI_CWI_ELFX_Patch.esp 
SoS - The Wilds.esp 
ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp 
SoS - The Wilds-PatchRCRN.esp 
OBIS.esp 
OBISDB.esp 
Civil War Overhaul.esp 
Bring Out Your Dead.esp 
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp 
UltimateDragons.esp 
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp 
GardensOfWhiterun.esp 
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp 
dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp 
Immersive Weapons.esp 
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW BoYD Patch.esp 
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 
Unique Uniques.esp 
OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp 
OMageReplacerPack.esp 
SoS - The Dungeons.esp 
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp 
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 
Immersive Whiterun.esp 
BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp 
Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp 
RE_RealEstate.esp 
Immersive Solstheim.esp 
Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp 
Inns and Taverns.esp 
City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp 
CityForestV2_6.esp 
ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp 
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp 
WetandCold - Holidays.esp 
ETaC - Complete STO Patch.esp 
ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp 
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 
WATER DB Waves.esp 
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 
Inconsequential NPCs.esp 
EFFDialogue.esp 
TheFrontier.esp 
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp 
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp 
DragonmournInn.esp 
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp 
Cloaks.esp 
1nivWICCloaks.esp 
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp 
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp 
Run For Your Lives.esp 
ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp 
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 
TheDomain.esp 
AdalMatar.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp 
ImmersiveStables.esp 
ETaC - Complete Im. Stables Patch.esp 
ETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.esp 
Atlas Legendary.esp 
wizDynamicThings.esp 
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 
UltimateCombat.esp 
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp 
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp 
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp 
Immersive Patrols II.esp 
ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp 
DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp 
FGT.esp 
Dr_Bandolier.esp 
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp 
BandolierForNPC IA Cloaks WIC Dawnguard Patch.esp 
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp 
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 
PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier.esp 
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp 
PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier DG.esp 
CWINPCOpulentApachii.esp 
CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp 
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 
ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp 
Chesko_Frostfall.esp 
Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp 
PerMa_Survivalism.esp 
PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Frostfall.esp 
Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp 
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp 
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 
Morning Fogs.esp 
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp 
FNISspells.esp 
Bandit Patrols.esp 
ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp 
Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp 
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp 
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRCRN.esp 
RND_AnimalLoot.esp 
Sleeping Innkeepers.esp 
ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp 
ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp 
ETaC - Complete SI Patch.esp 
WATER Plants.esp 
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp 
ETaC - Complete RE Patch.esp 
Hunterborn.esp 
Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp 
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp 
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp 
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 
Extended Encounters.esp 
ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp 
BorderSense.esp 
ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp 
WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp 
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 
Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp 
Bashed Patch, 0.esp 
ASIS-Dependency.esp 
ASIS.esp 
PatchusMaximus.esp 
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

[Mangaclub]

:)

ok lets see please disable:

Supreme Fog.esp

RealisticNights.esp and al lthe patches of it

also moove the vividian rcrn patch way down the load order just to make sure nothing much overwrites it.

Please recheck your rcrn configuration also if its setup like shown on the vividian description page.

if that doesnt work disable the d3d9_rcrn.dll in the enblocal.ini and try without it.

Sometimes skyrim also simply forgets to render any cloud layer wich results in a high overbloom of the sky (bug that never been fixed). in that case open the console and type in sw 81a.

[Lakan]

Ok Mangaclub, I did all of that unfortunately to no avail. Instead, I've decided to reinstall Climates of Tamriel + supreme storms + expanded snow systems + weather patch. My skies are still a little bright but not as much as before(also, I found out that snow was now showing up in the picture, and it was supposed to, and it did it when I disabled both, and now it does with my new setup again). Here are my pictures, I've taken multiple shots, it seems the clouds are really reflecting a lot of light and they are the culprit:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzwPfjaHaoDHc3Z1TlItZ2lkT2s&usp=sharing

(I am terribly sorry to any potential reader in advance if you are having similar issues and did not expect me to switch my setup instead)

And here is my new load order, although, can you help me in suggesting which esps get merged? Because I'm running over the 255 limit, haha(and I suspect it's mostly patch esps, not unique mods that have bloated my load order):

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
EFFCore.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp
JSwords.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
WinterholdDestruction.esm
SkyMoMod.esm
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm
ORS_MorthalPain.esm
RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
MoreBrains.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
DSerULG.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
HitStop.esp
AOS.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
3DNPC.esp
3DNPCEFF.esp
ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp
Epic Music Overhaul.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Exhaustion.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
PumpingIron.esp
Immersive detection of NPC.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
CombatDramaOverhaul.esp
ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
RaceMenu.esp
SOTAntiCTD.esp
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
Monster Wars.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
SkyUI.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp
NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp
RealisticNights.esp
RealisticNightsDG.esp
RealisticNightsDB.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR IW Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
HighElfSkinTones.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
SkyTEST Integration Patches.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
TKDodge.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ESS Patch for CoT DG Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
AOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
getSnowy.esp
lanterns.esp
winterhold_improvements.esp
WI_CWI_ELFX_Patch.esp
CWIWCIPatch.esp
ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp
OBIS.esp
City of Dawnstar.esp
Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
OBISDB.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
USKP_NPCoverhaul_Patch.esp
OMageReplacerPack.esp
ETaC - Complete EEO Patch.esp
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
GardensOfWhiterun.esp
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
AOS2_FIO Patch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp
SOT_SIC_ROE.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
SOT_PM.esp
SOT_TEST.esp
SOT_MM_ROE.esp
SOT_USKP.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
WATER.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
RND_RWS-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
WATER DG.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp
Immersive Whiterun EEO Patch.esp
RE_RealEstate.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Immersive Solstheim EEO Patch.esp
Inns and Taverns.esp
CityForestV2_6.esp
ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
ETaC - Complete STO Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp
City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Pre PaMa Improved Artifacts.esp
WATER DB Waves.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
TheFrontier.esp
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
TheDomain.esp
AdalMatar.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp
ImmersiveStables.esp
ETaC - Complete Im. Stables Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
wizDynamicThings.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp
DF127CaranthirTowerMod.esp
CWINPCOpulentApachii.esp
OpulentMageUSKPReplacerPatch.esp
FGT.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
BandolierForNPC IA Cloaks WIC Dawnguard Patch.esp
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
OBISCloaks&IA7.esp
PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier.esp
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp
PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Bandolier DG.esp
CWICaranthirTowerPatch.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
PerMa Immersion Tweaks - Frostfall.esp
PerMa_Survivalism.esp
Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp
Sleeping Innkeepers.esp
ETaC - Complete SI Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
Morning Fogs.esp
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
FNISspells.esp
Bandit Patrols.esp
ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp
Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
WATER Plants.esp
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
ETaC - Complete RE Patch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
Extended Encounters.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
BorderSense.esp
ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp
Imaginator BETA.esp
Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
Wind Destruction.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Edited January 18, 2015 by Lakan

[Lakan]

Nevermind, I found out what was going on, I needed to enable bUseDeferredShadows in the skyrimprefs.ini file(for MO Users, this is in the profile folder inside the Mod Organizer folder).

In any case, I downloaded your extended weathers addon for your enb. So let me get this straight, I can use Climates of Tamriel and Pure Weathers, and I don't need Supreme and volumetric fog, or it's morning fog addon, or the Weather patch anymore???

Second question, I assume that when we install vividian enb that if we're going to run Pure Weathers AND Climates of Tamriel at the same time, I need to enable the "YES! I use Pure Weathers" option in the second page in the install window.

[Mangaclub]

ahhhh now thats intresting with bDeferredShadows.

I'll add that to the required ini lines then ;)

 

yes. As soon you install out COT weather patch you wont need the one from prod 80 cus it gets completley overwritten. The extended groundfogs are similar to the surpreme and volumetric fogs and the diverse weathers makes COT compatible with PW. And yes you need to enable the YES! I use Pure Weathers there. Just make sure you get rid of all rcrn stuff first ;)

[Lakan]

How would RCRN fare in the combination with Climates of Tamriel? Can I still use Realistic nights? My only concern is compatibility, and I think Supreme storms and Expanded Snow Systems are not compatible with RCRN...

I ask for realistic nights, because we need to use the legacy setting for your mod.

[Mangaclub]

RCRN and COT can be made compatible with the diverse weathers too. Just Pure weather and RCRN are not compatible with each other.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49472/? realistic nights will mostly mess up either your imagespaces or weathers from rcrn so i think thats a real compatibility problem there when using rcrn with the Realistic nights mod.

ESS and SS though could be used when using the COT version of it.

[Lakan]

RCRN and COT can be made compatible with the diverse weathers too. Just Pure weather and RCRN are not compatible with each other.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49472/? realistic nights will mostly mess up either your imagespaces or weathers from rcrn so i think thats a real compatibility problem there when using rcrn with the Realistic nights mod.

ESS and SS though could be used when using the COT version of it.

Thanks for having helped thus far Mangaclub! One last question, I think you noticed the amount of lighting in my pictures within the google drive link. While I did fix the issue, everything does look less shiny, that hdr-esque effect is kind of gone. How do I return that back without having to resort to a white sky?(bright clouds)