spinspider Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Please help... lately I've noticed some bugs with terrain textures being weird, seemingly displaced, but that didn't cause an actual problem. But now I'm the Path of Dawn quest, and I cannot get into the Arcane University because it's floating 15 feet up in the air. I tried disabling a bunch of different mods that I thought might be causing it, but it didn't work. Uni is still borked. Here is my list of active mods... Oblivion.esmEnhancedWeather.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmHarvest[Containers].esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmBetter Cities Resources.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmRaceFrameWork.esmVampireFaceBugFixUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espBetter Cities .espNatural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espEnhancedWeather.espKvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espCharGenAmulet.espClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.espP1DseeYouSleep.espVA_BetterGold.espHarvest[Containers].espCrowded Cities 15.espCrowded Roads.espBrotherhoodRenewed.espDark Brotherhood Sanctuaries.espGwedenBrothel.espKvatch Rebuilt.espDBContinuedBeta 0.7.espVaultsofCyrodiilBC.espWhispered Warning.espThe Mystery of the Dulan cult.espNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.espArgonianSwiftSwim - Leopard.espfadingtorches v1.3b.espSkycaptainsBloodTime.espQuest Award Leveling.espQuest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.espStartChoices.espLTDVampireOverhaul.espCirc Vamp Aesthetics.espVampire Aging Disabled 2 XYoung.espFasterArrows200.espRshAlchemy.espRshAlchemyRecipes.espsycHearNoEvil.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espRealisticLeveling.espBulkyOrcs.espSlof's Oblivion Better Beasts.espBetter Cities Full.espBetter Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.espBetter Imperial City.espFrancesco's day lenght rescale 1-12.espReal Lava 1.3.espOblivion Graphics Extender Support.espStreamline 3.0.espSmeDisguise.espHumanBlood.espNon Aggression Wolves.espBetter Food.espNoEncumberance.espTML_InfiniteCharges.espVFBF Quicksave.espSummitmistRedone.espSlofs Horses + Horse Ownership.espEnhanced Economy - Soulgems.espAlluring Potion Bottles v3.espAlluring Wine Bottles.espDBED - 7 murders Level delay.espDBC.espDBSRebuilt + Abandoned House Renewed.espBellamont's Shrine.espWearable Amulet of Kings.espGood Xarxes.espImproved Races Combined.espAbandoned Village.esp http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9616/screenshot0xy.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinspider Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Please help I don't know whats wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinspider Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Why does nobody ever respond to my threads?? :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryt Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 GIve folks some time to find and then digest this, Lehcar. You aren't necessarily being ignored just because nobody has responded to your posts. It could be that nobody who has read this thread has a clue what's wrong (I certainly don't) and when that's the case most people don't pop in to say "Sorry, I can't help you." They just move on to another thread where they can be of some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Short answer: Missing Meshes. You're missing a mesh, or meshes. That's what that yellow sign on your screen indicates. There is nothing wrong with the placement of the Arcane University, you're missing the steps and walking area that goes around it, ALL the way around it. In the Vanilla game there are purple lights and a set of steps with a walkaround stone wall where the gates and the missing mesh indicator are. You need to find the missing mesh and replace it. I notice you have Better Cites installed, read on. Any mod that alters the AU area, like Better Cities, is likely the culprit. Either you didn't install them correctly or the game hasn't been 'told' to use the new meshes and textures. You know this is mod related since the vanilla meshes are stored in a BSA located in the Data folder. - Oblivion - Meshes.bsa If you have properly installed the additional meshes and textures for Better Cities, or other mods, you need to look at Archive Invalidation and use BSA Redirection. Archive Invalidation tells the game to use newly added material. Both Wrye Bash and OBMM have BSA Redirection built in as options. Many mods that add additional meshes, textures, and animations need Archive Invalidation to recognize the changes. Otherwise the game will continue to look in the Vanilla BSA's to draw information. But if an ESP redirects the resources to another folder other than the vanilla BSA you'll end up with missing meshes. In your case you have an ESP, Better Cities, telling the game to use a Mesh that either isn't there, or isn't recognized. Therefor you get the WTF, I'm missing a mesh sign. Here is a screenshot of what should be there. Arcane University Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryt Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 That much is obvious, especially after you posted your image, Smooth613. Unless it's something to do with a borked install of Better Cities, though, I can't imagine what mod might have caused this. I think what I might do in this case is to disable Better Cities then do a clean save and try it, again. If that doesn't work, then I'm stumped. As Smooth613 said, the necessary meshes and textures are in a .bsa file, so there's no way they could have been inadvertently erased or overwritten. They're still there. You just have to find the mod that's causing the problem and that might involve deactivating everything and then activating them one at a time. Use BOSS to insure you have an acceptable load order, too, although, again, nothing immediately jumps out that could cause this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I was editing my post as you replied Ferryt. I included some more information that will lead to a resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinspider Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 I tryed using the BSA redirection utility in OBMM but it didn't work, I don't know why the mesh is missing. I'm 100% sure I installed it properly. And I'm sure I have no other mods that touch the imperial city or any of the stair meshes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I tryed using the BSA redirection utility in OBMM but it didn't work, I don't know why the mesh is missing. I'm 100% sure I installed it properly. And I'm sure I have no other mods that touch the imperial city or any of the stair meshes... By that logic it would work then, so no something is still missing. Are you by chance using Vista or Win 7? UAC can sometimes create problems for mods but I'm doubting this is the case or you would have many other problems with the amount of mods you have installed. You can turn off UAC temporarily to eliminate the possibility. So something IS missing, disable Better Cities and then reenter the AU. Let me know how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinspider Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 It doesn't work. I try to disable the UAC but those stairs are still missing. I looked at it in the CS and it looks fine, but for some reason the it's missing ingame, the game just won't pick up the mesh or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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