TQWorld Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Hey all, I'm getting some really low FPS while playing a heavily modded Skyrim (I believe mine is classified as 'heavy' but maybe not). I'm sometimes dropping down to 11-18fps at times and going nowhere near 30 (depending on the ENB I'm using). In areas not so busy, I will average around 24-27fps. I know there has to be something I could be doing better to get my FPS cranked up but as of now that solution eludes me. My load order seems to be very stable and I'm confident with the order in which things are placed (could always do better with another set of eyes on it though, right?). I do not have any CTD or infinite loading screens and I encounter no apparent issues in-game with any mods not working or interfering with other mods. I know that my preferred resolution is going to be a major hit against the FPS, but the crispness of images at 2560x1600 is delicious. I do fear that I'm going to have to release some of that crispy deliciousness to gain back some FPS. I also realize that having 7 followers with me doesn't help. But really, even with all of that. I'm fairly certain that I should be getting a lot more FPS than I currently get. I've seen videos of others running similar mods and they are showing 60-80fps and these were using much older hardware than what we have today which makes me think I'm doing something wrong somewhere in this endeavor. My rig: AMD 8350 4.0GHz 256GB SSD 16GB DDR3 1866 MSI GeForce GTX 760 4GB (factory OC) PSU 850w Resolution: 2560x1600My load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm Dragonborn.esm HearthFires.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm hdtHighHeel.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Falskaar.esm Wyrmstooth.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm GeneralStores.esm TERAArmors.esm SkyMoMod.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm vAutosaveManager.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Open Cities Skyrim.esp OCS + Hearthfire Patch.esp TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp betterdawnstar.esp betterinns.esp bettermarkarthexterieur.esp bettermorthal.esp betterwinterhold.esp markarth_plus.esp riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp tavefalkreath.esp taveriften.esp tavesolitude.esp tavevillages.esp tavewindhelm.esp whiterunexenhanced.esp whiteruninenhanced.esp Solstheim Landscape Overhaul.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp SGHailPackAllinOne.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp InnovaEyes.esp SkyUI.esp Facelight.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Tamriel Reloaded.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp Moss Rocks.esp Unique Grasses.esp Unique Grasses_clippingfixer.esp Grass Field.esp Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp CityForestV2_6.esp City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp Tamriel Reloaded Trees.esp Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp WetandCold.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers - Brighter Nights.esp Brighter Campfires X15.esp Brighter Candles.esp BrighterTorches.esp SoS - Civilization.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Thrall Master 1.0V.esp conjurationmodification.esp SGEyebrows.esp White River Cottage.esp The Warriors Abode.esp Amaterasu - The Great Spirit.esp MODNewfollowersMystic.esp nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp breezehome TNF.esp Elemental Staves.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp ADEC_TeraArmorCollection.esp Cloaks.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp UNPB Full Metal Bikini.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp SkimpySilverlight.esp Lich King's Armor.esp ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp Witch Elf Armour.esp Skimpy Plate Armor.esp Witch Of The Wild.esp NewVampChainsCuirass.esp NewVampChainsGloves.esp Warhammer Sorceress Robes.esp NewmillerDarkVampKnight.esp BlackWisteria.esp Schwertleite Set.esp Remodeled Armor.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp BnS Scorpion Set.esp selobl_DarkLillith.esp R18Pn - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp WezFollower.esp TST_Annerose.esp Convenient Horses.esp Yeriel Follower.esp Inferno Weapons and Armors Set -The Arms of Hell Flame-.esp DMCVampirelordFemalePlayer.esp DMCVampirelordMalePlayer.esp SnowyNightingale.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp lrq_af0001.esp Animated Dragon Wings.esp TeraHEFArmors.esp TeraHFR20.esp TS_RogueOutfits.esp SnakeArmor.esp TBBP_Snake Armor.esp Aradia Lace Dress.esp Unlimited Jewelry For Dawngurad & Dragonborn.esp UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp cpkinokopose.espMy ENBs are not showing because I use the ENB Manager for better switching out between them. My SkyrimPrefs.ini [General] fBrightLightColorB=1.0000 fBrightLightColorG=1.0000 fBrightLightColorR=1.0000 iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1 bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0 [Imagespace] bDoDepthOfField=1 iRadialBlurLevel=1 [Display] iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3 fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000 fShadowDistance=4000.0000 iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048 iShadowSplitCount=2 iMaxAnisotropy=1 fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000 fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000 fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000.0000 fGamma=1.4000 fDecalLOD2=1500.0000 fDecalLOD1=1000.0000 fSpecularLODStartFade=1000.0000 fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000 fLightLODStartFade=2500.0000 iTexMipMapMinimum=0 iTexMipMapSkip=0 iWaterMultiSamples=0 iMultiSample=1 iShadowMode=3 bTreesReceiveShadows=1 bDrawLandShadows=1 bShadowsOnGrass=1 bFull Screen=1 iSize H=1600 iSize W=2560 fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000 fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000 fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000 fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000 fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000 fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000 iScreenShotIndex=2 bShadowMaskZPrepass=0 bMainZPrepass=0 iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=150 iMaxDecalsPerFrame=800 bFloatPointRenderTarget=1 sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760" iAdapter=0 iPresentInterval=1 bFXAAEnabled=0 iShadowMapResolution=2048 fShadowBiasScale=0.2500 iShadowMaskQuarter=4 iShadowFilter=3 bTransparencyMultisampling=0 bDeferredShadows=1 bDrawShadows=1 [Grass] b30GrassVS=0 fGrassStartFadeDistance=5000.0000 fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000 fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000 [MAIN] bGamepadEnable=0 bCrosshairEnabled=1 fHUDOpacity=1.0000 bSaveOnPause=1 bSaveOnTravel=1 bSaveOnWait=1 bSaveOnRest=1 fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000 [GamePlay] bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1 bShowQuestMarkers=1 iDifficulty=2 [Interface] bDialogueSubtitles=0 bGeneralSubtitles=0 fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000 bShowCompass=1 [Controls] fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000 fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125 bAlwaysRunByDefault=1 bInvertYValues=0 bGamePadRumble=1 bMouseAcceleration=0 bUseKinect=0 [Particles] iMaxDesired=750 [SaveGame] fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000 [AudioMenu] fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000 fVal7=1.0000 uID7=1191387317 fVal6=1.0000 uID6=1191387314 fVal5=1.0000 uID5=1191388696 fVal4=1.0000 uID4=1191387318 fVal3=1.0000 uID3=94881 fVal2=0.4000 uID2=466532 fVal1=1.0000 uID1=554685 fVal0=0.8000 uID0=1007612 [Clouds] fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000 fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000 fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000 fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000 [TerrainManager] fTreeLoadDistance=40000.0000 fBlockMaximumDistance=150000.0000 fBlockLevel1Distance=40000.0000 fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000 fSplitDistanceMult=1.1000 bShowLODInEditor=0 [NavMesh] fObstacleAlpha=0.5000 fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000 fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500 fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000 fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500 fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000 fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000 fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500 fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000 fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000 fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000 fEdgeThickness=10.0000 fPointSize=2.5000 [Trees] bRenderSkinnedTrees=1 uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20 [Decals] uMaxDecals=250 bDecals=1 bSkinnedDecals=1 uMaxSkinDecals=50 uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40 [LOD] fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5000 fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5000 fLODFadeOutMultActors=6.0000 fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000 [Launcher] bEnableFileSelection=1 bShowAllResolutions=0 uLastAspectRatio=4 [BlurShaderHDR] bDoHighDynamicRange=1 [BlurShader] bUseBlurShader=0 [Water] iWaterReflectHeight=512 iWaterReflectWidth=512 bUseWaterDisplacements=1 bUseWaterRefractions=1 bUseWaterReflections=1 bUseWaterDepth=1I typically use Seasons of Skyrim due to it's ease on performance. I sometimes use RealVision's Performance version and that really helps and I will jump to high 30/low 40fps but unfortunately it doesn't have the look that I am wanting for gameply. Additional things I've done to assist in performance: ENBoost Sheson's Memory PatchI've not tried overclocking either my CPU or my GPU yet. Any thoughts,suggestions or recommendations? If I forgot to mention any important tidbits, please let me know and I will provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQWorld Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Giltintur Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I truly know the woes of 2560x gaming.I just remodded my entire Skyrim, as I was stuck below 32-ish fps, sometimes looking at a slide-show.(I have a 2560x1440 screen, an MSI GTX970 Gaming 4GB video card (oc'd a bit), an i5-4690K (@4,3 GHz) and 8GB of RAM (the next 8 gigs are arriving tomorrow).) You should give http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6491/? a try, to pinpoint your bottleneck. Sadly my bottleneck was my GPU running at 99% on the "idle skyrim" and just couldn't cope with a fire-magic fight in front of Whiterun.And not so surprisingly that the SSD only ever effects the load time, but without enb I'm easily at my limit of 60 FPS. As I couldn't possibly give up on ENB I chose to downscale my graphics: 1K textures for everything, and 2K for hair, armour, weaponry, skin: what I'll constantly see up close. I'm almost done with my play-through's mod-build, and during testing my lowest FPS ever was around 24 (highest outdoor around 42ish, indoors at 60). That's all I can help with right now. Edited February 8, 2015 by Giltintur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltintur Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Oh, and I'm using RealVision full. And I fully gave up on Open Cities Skyrim, it's a serious fps hit. Edited February 8, 2015 by Giltintur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQWorld Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'm right there with you on the GPU being maxed out. Any suggestions or is that pretty much it? http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z448/tqworld/rpt_zpsy9ztndue.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giltintur Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Go back to 1K textures, uninstall open cities, don't use unique grasses. At least that's what I did. Now I have the double of your average frame-rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQWorld Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Unfortunately, when conducting the test above, I had Open Cities disabled (I only saw a 1-2 fps difference when using vs not using). My test above was running through Whiterun from the main gate, around the market area and back. Additionally, I had run the Texture Optimization script. The only piece of your suggestion I have not tried is removing unique grasses. I will say that dropping my enb caused my fps to jump to into 40s and 50s and that's leaving all graphics on. Will test and given feedback with grasses disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQWorld Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Tested with no Open Cities and with Open Cities - saw no change this time around either. Was hopeful but no improvement. I disabled Unique Grasses (but left Field Grass) and saw no improvement. I did see a bit of an increase when using Unique Grasses without Field Grass installed. Great tips, thanks! I was able to gain back about 10fps by disabling a couple of items in the ENB, so I think I'm doing well now. Thank again and always open to any other suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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