MeNoChinese Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I think that America definetly needs to reinvent itself. If we don't, we will cease to exsist as a country. I can't speak to the level that the man in the video did about the economy, but I can tell you that when it comes to the US Dollar, if we wan't it to retain it's value, then we need to 1. Audit the Federal Reserve under a Subpeona requiring all ledgers and check books and documents to be seen. 2. We need to End the Fed. 3. We need to change the base of our currency from a FIAT currency to a currency with a bullion standard. If we fail to do these three things then the Dollar will fall, as it is falling now. It is projected that the quantatative easing passed on Tuesday will add 2 trillion dollars to the US debt. But yeah, we as a country need to reinvent ourselves. If the dollar falls, so does a civilized America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 If the dollar falls, so does a civilized world.Fixed... The economic crisis is a GLOBAL one... failure does not just ruin America, not just the west, but damn near everyone... Including those who would wish to do America harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosblade02 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Its pretty simple, most Americans, didn't like the direction the Democrats were taking this country in, so the opposing party won BIG. And I would argue, that most of the people that voted Obama, had no clue what he meant when he said he was gonna bring "Change" to America. Now when everyone finally understood what he meant by "Change", they didn't like it. And I don't like it, but I had enough sense to know what he meant by "Change" before it happened. Americans don't want a more Socialist country. I prefer Gridlock in the government, it means they can't do any more damage. They are destroying the system that made this country the greatest country in the world. And they weren't satisfied because it wasn't a utopia, where everyone lived happily ever after. This video here pisses me off, but its so true unless we get this debt under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoChinese Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Its pretty simple, most Americans, didn't like the direction the Democrats were taking this country in, so the opposing party won BIG. And I would argue, that most of the people that voted Obama, had no clue what he meant when he said he was gonna bring "Change" to America. Now when everyone finally understood what he meant by "Change", they didn't like it. And I don't like it, but I had enough sense to know what he meant by "Change" before it happened. Americans don't want a more Socialist country. I prefer Gridlock in the government, it means they can't do any more damage. They are destroying the system that made this country the greatest country in the world. And they weren't satisfied because it wasn't a utopia, where everyone lived happily ever after. This video here pisses me off, but its so true unless we get this debt under control. I totally agree with you, but, if we don't End The Federal Reserve we will be debted to China forever, plus we will have never ending inflation. Imagine $23 for a loaf of bread, or $56 for one plain white cotton tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balagor Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Its pretty simple, most Americans, didn't like the direction the Democrats were taking this country in, so the opposing party won BIG. And I would argue, that most of the people that voted Obama, had no clue what he meant when he said he was gonna bring "Change" to America. Now when everyone finally understood what he meant by "Change", they didn't like it. And I don't like it, but I had enough sense to know what he meant by "Change" before it happened. Americans don't want a more Socialist country. I prefer Gridlock in the government, it means they can't do any more damage. They are destroying the system that made this country the greatest country in the world. And they weren't satisfied because it wasn't a utopia, where everyone lived happily ever after. This video here pisses me off, but its so true unless we get this debt under control. This is one of the commercials we saw here in Europe. This is one of them I speak about in my first post. It has no political message, and it kinda ridicules the present government. Other than that it has no other purpose except perhaps scare people to believe that they belong to China now. The only truth in this commercial is that China is a great country, in fact the greatest, with a fast growing economy. But this commercial does not tell this intentionally, and only the sharp mind will catch it, thus it wil not reach to the wide average population anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) This is one of the commercials we saw here in Europe. This is one of them I speak about in my first post. It has no political message, and it kinda ridicules the present government. Other than that it has no other purpose except perhaps scare people to believe that they belong to China now. The only truth in this commercial is that China is a great country, in fact the greatest, with a fast growing economy. But this commercial does not tell this intentionally, and only the sharp mind will catch it, thus it wil not reach to the wide average population anywhere.You forgot to mention that bit about how China actually NEEDs the US to get back on its feet. I love how all these people go on saying how China is going to get sick of loaning us money, and so on, but never bothering to explain why they gave us money to begin with or how it benefits them. Put simply, China's economy relies on the west as its primary customer. Most of those things produced in China are shipped and sold to the US. If the US falls, so does China as her factories shut down and her streets become clogged with low-quality consumer goods. In a global economy, it's like a house of cards, if one goes, the others almost always follow. Personally, I'd be less concerned about the message and more concerned about the intent behind the message. The intent is not to inform, the intent is to scare people and undermine the party which is in power. Edited November 6, 2010 by Vagrant0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosblade02 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Its pretty simple, most Americans, didn't like the direction the Democrats were taking this country in, so the opposing party won BIG. And I would argue, that most of the people that voted Obama, had no clue what he meant when he said he was gonna bring "Change" to America. Now when everyone finally understood what he meant by "Change", they didn't like it. And I don't like it, but I had enough sense to know what he meant by "Change" before it happened. Americans don't want a more Socialist country. I prefer Gridlock in the government, it means they can't do any more damage. They are destroying the system that made this country the greatest country in the world. And they weren't satisfied because it wasn't a utopia, where everyone lived happily ever after. This video here pisses me off, but its so true unless we get this debt under control. I totally agree with you, but, if we don't End The Federal Reserve we will be debted to China forever, plus we will have never ending inflation. Imagine $23 for a loaf of bread, or $56 for one plain white cotton tee. Everyone in the federal reserve are criminals as far as I am concerned. And China isn't the greatest country yet, the standard of living for its people is still way below that of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keanumoreira Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 The question isn't if America should reinvent itself, its the entire human race. I love it when people target us for their own problems, when in reality, it's bad all over. The point is, reformation for the better should be applied everywhere, its just the Middle East and the Western world people focus on because that's their only source to blame. In terms of worldwide struggle, America isn't that bad, but am I saying its righteous and a haven for all... Certainly not. I'm proud to call myself an American, and help my fellow others, but even I will admit how bad things are. Its not just us who needs to change... Edit: Perhaps I didn't word this correctly. What I'm trying to say here is that I don't want people to think its just us who is causing the worlds problems. I didn't mean to imply anything hurtful or racial or anything of that nature, I just want people to know that we are all in this together and that we should work together to make this a better place. I didn't mean to make Sil look bad or anything that relates to that nature, and for that I am trully sorry if anyone found it influential as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenergy Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I think that the American media should re-invent itself to be less bias (I'm looking at you News Corp, who owns FOX). Keanu you read Silvers question wrong, it's about the American people and political system, not foreign affairs. I only lurked around this topic because I know nothing about the American system of government and how their system works, I can only base my opinions from here in Aus. With that said, when you see things from here you get the impression that the people here are sheep who follow whatever some loud mouth says but it's not true. Americans can make their own choices but sometimes the euphoria takes over and people lose site. People also forget that Obama is doing his best as well to kick start but people expect that it can happen over night but as Granny said that it takes time.In fact I predict that it will take at least 10 years (maybe more) to return to the good times but I'm no good at economics. It's quite interesting that people blame person who took over the people who caused it in the first place. As for the question, I think there is place for more political reforms and more transparency in governance. No system of government is perfect but improvement is better than nothing at all. That's my view about the whole matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoChinese Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 @Chaosblade02I totally agree and I am glad that others seem to feel that the Fed is definetly part of the major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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