CTD in All Exterior Cells.

[Lokiilol]

Hi. Thanks for even looking at this. I've been scratching my head for a while trying to work out my CTD's via Papyrus. However I'm not that great at reading the logs.

 

The Problem: I crash on all Exterrior cells. Internal cells are fine from what i can gather. Starting a new game dosn't fix the issue so it's not to do with the save file.

 

Attached are links to pastebin of my Logs and load order. I've added 3 Papyrus Logs if it helps to cross reference them.

 

I can use the console command "player.moveto" without crashing within an interior cell, but as above it crashes on exterior.

 

Thanks in advance if you've given up time to read these.

 

Loadorder: (This is a huge list)

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
EFFCore.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
MFVM.esm
ORS_MorthalPain.esm
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
WinterholdDestruction.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp
RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp
No_stretching.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
AOS.esp
MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
TradeBarter.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
AshRocks.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
MoonGlow.esp
NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Point The Way.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Merged.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SulfurRocks.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
WM Trap Fixes.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
ProperWeaponScale.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
towConversation.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
Extended UI.esp
iHUD.esp
PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
NightingaleArrows.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
BetterDGEntrance.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
tos_granitehall.esp
high hrothgar overhaul.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Nightingale Hall.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp
ORS_DremoraUpdate.esp
quest_pitfighter.esp
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
Windhelm Lighthouse.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
GuardAnimationsGDO.esp
Paralyze.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp
SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
tos_amber_guard.esp
tos_laintardale_hf.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
BooksOfSkyrim.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
RealShelter.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Vividian ENB2.esp
Vividian ENB2.esp.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
Vividian ENB.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Better Vampires ML.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
BFSEffects.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
VioLens.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
hornsareforever.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
NB-Scars.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
3DNPC.esp
NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
3DNPCEFF.esp
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RBB - SR Merge.esp
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp
RSPatch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
SR Conflict Resolution.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim 2.0.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim - Combat.esp
Celtic Music in Skyrim - Dungeons v1.1.esp
ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp
Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp
ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp
REGS - Better Docks.esp
ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
Thunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.esp
JKs Windhelm.esp
ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp
JKs Solitude.esp
Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
JKs Whiterun.esp
Understone Keep Repair.esp
DawnofRiften.esp
JKs Markarth.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp
PerMa_Survivalism.esp
Better City Entrances - No Whiterun.esp
REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp
REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp
REGS Patch - NSutR + RRR.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp
FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp
FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerMa Headless.esp
PerkusRangedPatch.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR BoYD Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
Conflict Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp
TES5Patch.esp
Thunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp
ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp
Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp

Log 1: http://pastebin.com/zM8wiNVQ

Log 2: http://pastebin.com/xWS6KJ3D

Log 3: http://pastebin.com/Kzji23pc

[Kuragiman]

I would love to know too. I bought a new GTX 980 video card and was all excited to get Skyrim loaded up and play it on my triple monitor setup. I had a three day weekend and was wasted trying to figure out why Skyrim was crashing left and right. I haven't been able to get past Riverwood. Every MOD is scrubbed. Ever MOD is loaded in the right order. All the mods have compatibility patches. Skyrim Performance manager is reporting everything is healthy. I average about 784 megs of memory used and about 3 gigs of vram with the graphic mods I have. Game runs at 60 FPS pegged on interior cells and gets about 30-40 outside with RealVision ENB going in performance mode but I can't last longer than a couple minutes outdoors before the game just freezes in place. The Papyrus Editor and Diagnostics tool reports no problems with the saved games. I am about ready to cry... I have done everything I can think of. Everything should be going. I should be slaying dragons all up and down Skyrim but nope. Skyrim is just unplayable in the exterior cell environments for some reason with the load I have. I just don't get it.

[5CY7H3]

HOLYS^*& your mod collection is nuts, there are way too many mods doing the same damn thing, mostly graphic enhacers, this is the core of your problem, BOSS only sort the mods tho dimish the possible conflicts and LOOT can adress some of your problems, and paypirus logs are not crash reports (might help but not for all instances) my recommendation start a new game with ALL mods disabled, then play a couple minutes, no crash then start activating the mods one by one from core mods, dependent mods and finally stand alone mods, avoid placing mods that do the same thing will caouse conflict sooner or later no matter what, once you got an optimized list run the gamesave cleaner (search for it on the nexus) and then use your game save

Edited February 18, 2015 by 5CY7H3

[Lokiilol]

Thanks for the Advice. I was following the STEP: Skyrim revisited guide. It worked for awhile before i changed my hard drive. I changed all the paths to make sure it was correct but after that it stopped working.

[kowaretatenshi]

ok i know this probably isnt the palce to ask his but no one is answering me and i havent been able to play skyrim for weeks now and i miss it alot so can someone please tell me what this

[02/05/2015 - 10:19:11AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[02/05/2015 - 10:19:11AM] error: Native function GetUseSound in empty state does not match existing signature on linked type Potion. Function will not be bound.

[02/05/2015 - 10:19:11AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)

[02/05/2015 - 10:19:11AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

in my papryus log means? i just wanna find the conflicting files and fx it because ive been trying for so long and id appreciate some help

[Lokiilol]

[02/05/2015 - 10:19:11AM] error: Native function GetUseSound in empty state does not match existing signature on linked type Potion. Function will not be bound.

 

 

This sting is common in pretty much everyone's logs. This isn't the issue. A quick google will show you.

[Kuragiman]

I fixed my problem. #1: Get rid of BOSS. It is outdated. LOOT is much better at sorting MODS and the interface looks better and is easier to read. #2 - You are blowing away your memory blocks with all those mods. I had the same problem. You need to increase your memory chunks. By default, Skyrim sets up two chunks of memory when it boots up. These two chunks at 256 megs each. When a chunk gets full it makes another and another and another. The problem is, Skyrim SUCKS at doing this. You will discover that you are crashing EVERYTIME because that first 256 meg chunk is getting eaten alive and processes/threads are still trying to do their thing while Skyrim creates more memory chunks to use. Unfortunately this makes Skyrim wig out and you CTD.

 

There are methods of increasing your chunk size. #1 is the simplest way. Download the MOD SSME: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/?

 

By default SSME will force Skyrim to create it's first memory chunk at the size of 512megs. For my system, this was more than enough to stop Skyrim from crashing while loading. You can set other various chunk sizes if that one doesn't work for you but beware, if you make your chunks too big Skyrim gets pissy again and you will start to CTD. For MOST people the 512/256 meg combo works great. It cleared up 99% of my crashes and allowed me to turn a few more mods I had shutoff. I run about 220 mods now, all patched and cleaned and with this addon I am mostly crash free outdoors and I NEVER crash while in a dungeon. Hope that helps.

 

The 2nd method is directly through SKSE itself. The latest version has built in code to do the same thing the above MOD does. I did not full with it though because it requires you to make .INI files and put in the right text. The SSME mod was just a simple matter of dropping the contents into my Skyrim root. In any case; READ and FOLLOW all instructions. Happy Skyrimming.

[vlaka]

skse is just as easy to get going.

All you need to do is go to skyrim/data and create a folder called SKSE then inside the SKSE folder create a txt file, open it and add the following:

[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

click file and save as. Name it to skse.ini and you're done.