Can't attack, can't run, can't figure out what's causing it.

[Empexis]

I recently installed a bunch of mods, after each one I tested to make sure the game still worked, but apparently I didn't test enough. A couple hours into each new character, for seemingly no reason I'll be unable to attack, run, or use hotkeys. I can, however, cast, walk, change camera view, etc. I've been monkeying around with mods that I think might be the culprit, but so far have had no luck.

I plan on uninstalling all mods, and then re-installing them in small groups to try and weed out the one (or ones) causing the problem. I'd rather not do that though, so if anyone has any ideas they'd be much appreciated.

This is my active mod list from Wyre Bash:

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
03  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.1.6]
04  UndiesUnderneath.esm
05  RealisticLeveling.esm
06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
07  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
08  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]
09  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.35]
0A  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
0B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
0C  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]
0E  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
0F  P1DrobesOver.esp
10  Camping.esp
11  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
12  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
13  Streamline 2.1.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
++  FineWeapons.esp
++  RustyItems.esp
14  UU_Female_Undies.esp
15  UU_Male_Undies.esp
++  moreundies UU Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
16  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
17  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
18  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
19  300_Regal_Imperial_City.esp
1A  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
++  Tona's_ModsStore UU Patch.esp
1B  Knights.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
1C  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1D  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
1E  xulTheHeath.esp
1F  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
20  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
21  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
22  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
23  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
24  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
25  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
26  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
27  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
28  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
29  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
2A  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
2B  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
2C  xulPantherRiver.esp
2D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
2E  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
2F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
30  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
31  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
32  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
33  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
34  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
35  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
36  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
37  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
38  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
39  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
3A  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 4.1.6]
3B  Open Cities Reborn.esp  [Version 1.1.7]
3C  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
3D  Armored Skeletons (LL).esp
3E  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
3F  Leviathan Soulgems.esp
40  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
41  Side's Backpacks.esp  [Version 1.0]
42  Side's Backpacks (COBL).esp  [Version 1.0]
43  SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
44  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
45  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
46  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
47  MidasSpells.esp
48  Pestilent Afflictions.esp
49  Deadlier Traps.esp
4A  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
4B  SkillDecay.esp
4C  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  P1DshieldNoGlow.esp
4D  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]
4E  Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.35]
4F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: moreundies.esp
50  moreundies.esp
51  GreatBridgeNEW.esp
52  Hunter Mod.esp
53  boat ride.esp
54  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

I kinda hope the answer is a super obvious one and I just haven't noticed it. Anyway, thanks for at least taking the time to read this.

Edited February 28, 2015 by Empexis

[IkeCoast]

Hey, Empexis!

 

I can't pinpoint you to the cause of your lack of movement options, but I have detected some (hope that minor) issues with your mod list.

 

First of all, the P1DKeyChain v5. It's reportedly quite troublesome. Darnified UI collapsable categories renders it obsolete, consider migrating to it (or DarkUid Darn).

 

Then, I see the Beautiful People v22 - MaleReplacerv4 AND Oblivion Character Overhaul (I assume it's version 1). Most likely you are using BP for females and OCO for males, aren't you? Buuuut, the fact that your Bashed Patch is not THE LAST puzzles me. If you have not Bash-merged Ren's Beautiful People and OCO, since you have OCO the last, it is overwriting BP changes. Are you sure everyone in your game looks the way they should look?

 

And finally, the moreundies.esp is doing something very, very bad to your game, since BOSS has flagged it as DELINQUENT.

 

You do not need to uninstall anything yet, just do this:

 

Save in a new spot. Now, SAVE AGAIN IN A NEW SPOT. This way you have two backup savegames. Now deactivate HALF of your mods and see if the issue persists. If the issue persists, you now know that this half of your mods is innocent. Deactivate the half of the remaining mods and if the issue is still present, then you know that the culprit is in the remaining active mods. Now deactivate one by one the remaining mods until the issue disappears. And this way you know which one was.

 

Cheers!

[Empexis]

All right, thanks to your help, I think I got it working! Instead of following your last bit of advice, I uninstalled the keychain mod, and fooled around with the load order. Fixed the delinquent, and moved the bashed patch to the last position. The only reason it was earlier than that was because that's where BOSS put it last time I ran it. Oh well.

For those keeping score at home, my new load order:

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
03  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.1.6]
04  UndiesUnderneath.esm
05  RealisticLeveling.esm
06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
07  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
08  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]
09  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.35]
0A  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
0B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
0C  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]
0E  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
0F  P1DrobesOver.esp
10  Camping.esp
11  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
12  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp
13  Streamline 2.1.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
++  FineWeapons.esp
++  RustyItems.esp
14  UU_Female_Undies.esp
15  UU_Male_Undies.esp
++  moreundies UU Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
16  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
17  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
18  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
19  300_Regal_Imperial_City.esp
1A  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
++  Tona's_ModsStore UU Patch.esp
1B  Knights.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
1C  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1D  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
1E  xulTheHeath.esp
1F  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
20  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
21  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
22  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
23  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
24  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
25  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
26  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
27  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
28  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
29  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
2A  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
2B  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
2C  xulPantherRiver.esp
2D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
2E  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
2F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
30  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
31  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
32  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
33  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
34  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
35  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
36  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
37  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
38  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
39  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
3A  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 4.1.6]
3B  Open Cities Reborn.esp  [Version 1.1.7]
3C  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
3D  Armored Skeletons (LL).esp
3E  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
3F  Leviathan Soulgems.esp
40  Side's Backpacks.esp  [Version 1.0]
41  Side's Backpacks (COBL).esp  [Version 1.0]
42  SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
43  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
44  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
45  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
46  MidasSpells.esp
47  Pestilent Afflictions.esp
48  Deadlier Traps.esp
49  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
4A  SkillDecay.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  P1DshieldNoGlow.esp
4B  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]
4C  Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.35]
4D  moreundies.esp
4E  GreatBridgeNEW.esp
4F  Hunter Mod.esp
50  boat ride.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
51  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
52  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
53  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I think it was that delinquent that was causing the issue, because I fixed that and now I've yet to experience that bizarre problem again. Time may tell a different story though, I've only played one more hour.

I did experience a CTD after that hour, on loading a new cell. That's something I can live with that though. From what I understand, it's to be expected when modding. If anyone would like to add their input on that front, it'd be appreciated, but I think I'll be fine for now.

A big thanks to you, IkeCoast! You were super helpful!

[IkeCoast]

Hey, Empexis!

 

Whoa, I did not expect that my suggestions were the ones that actually helped you solve your issue. One CTD after an hour of playing is a really good score for such a heavily modded game, it's more or less the same standard I had when I had my previous, also heavily modded game.

 

So, high five!

 

Cheers!