Conservative or Liberal?

[Deleted472477User]

Please don't treat this as open season on the other side. There's a difference between saying 'I'm a conservative because.../I'm a liberal because....' and saying 'I'm this or that because the other side is evil and stupid because they do xyz.'

 

I'm a liberal, mostly because I feel liberals have the rights and welfare of individuals who are in genuine need in mind moreso than that of corporations and those who don't need the extra help (ie, tax cuts for the super rich). It really angered me that right now they just voted to cut unemployment benefits off. Now, I know that not everyone who is unemployed is looking for work, and I do realise there are people who would rather be on welfare than work, but they're outnumbered by people who bust their butts looking for any job they can get.

 

I know that in theory tax custs for corporations were supposed to make it easier to open up jobs, but all it did was make the CEOs spend more on themselves and cut even more jobs. This obviously didn't work, so why keep insisting it does?

 

I believe in preserving the environment, not opening up national parks for energy companies to exploit. With all the cuts to educational and cultural programs getting voted in, I feel like the right is wanting to encourage stupidity and ignorance. But hat are they really believing they are trying to achieve here? I guess I just don't understand how the conservative/Republican folks can honestly believe that cutting funding for public schools, unemployment assistance, cultural and educational programs, letting corproations outsource jobs to India etc. can be at all helpful in making this country stronger. I know the conservatives/Republicans don't get why we liberals think and do the things we do, so let's see if we can't enlighten each other.

 

ETA: I know, it isn't just the conservatives and Republicans who think that way, but it *seems* they outnumber the Democrats/liberals. Anyway, the whole point is here you have a liberal who wants to understand why the other side believes the way it does and thinks it's the best way to go. shocking! :D

Edited November 21, 2010 by nyxalinth

[Chaosblade02]

I am Liberal when it comes to freedoms, and Conservative when it relates to economic issues. But the modern day American liberal view of freedoms, isn't what I am talking about when I say liberal. I consider myself a Libertarian. Edited November 21, 2010 by Chaosblade02

[Deleted472477User]

I am Liberal when it comes to freedoms, and Conservative when it relates to economic issues. But the modern day American liberal view of freedoms, isn't what I am talking about when I say liberal. I consider myself a Libertarian.

 

 

What is it about being a Libertarian that appeals to you most? Why does it work for you?

[Chaosblade02]

I am Liberal when it comes to freedoms, and Conservative when it relates to economic issues. But the modern day American liberal view of freedoms, isn't what I am talking about when I say liberal. I consider myself a Libertarian.

 

 

What is it about being a Libertarian that appeals to you most? Why does it work for you?

 

Freedoms combined with fiscal responsibility and smaller government, it just makes sense. I believe it is what the founding fathers of America intended. There is no perfect system, but anyone who is smart and or works hard, will live comfortably compared to the rest of the world, and also have the freedom to pursue whatever they wish, and that is about the best we could hope to do within reason with a government.

 

I don't believe the founding fathers had the insight to see some of the current problems of politicians all voting to give themselves more power, and pay raises, and also lobbyists influencing policy more than the people that elected these officials. This is the biggest flaw of the American system, and is one of the reasons we are where we are right now. I believe the US has become one of the most corrupt systems in the world.

Edited November 21, 2010 by Chaosblade02

[Deleted472477User]

 

Freedoms combined with fiscal responsibility and smaller government, it just makes sense. I believe it is what the founding fathers of America intended. There is no perfect system, but anyone who is smart and or works hard, will live comfortably compared to the rest of the world, and also have the freedom to pursue whatever they wish, and that is about the best we could hope to do within reason with a government.

 

I don't believe the founding fathers had the insight to see some of the current problems of politicians all voting to give themselves more power, and pay raises, and also lobbyists influencing policy more than the people that elected these officials. This is the biggest flaw of the American system, and is one of the reasons we are where we are right now. I believe the US has become one of the most corrupt systems in the world.

 

 

That I can agree with. Is it true though that libertarians think everything should be privatized? Human naure being what it is, I dont think people here can be counted upon to support schools, roads, libraries etc. without it being taxed by the government.

 

You know, given the heated politcal debates from both sides elsewhere here, I would have thought more people would enjoy the opportunity to tell us what makes them tick and why.

Edited November 22, 2010 by nyxalinth

[Vagrant0]

You know, given the heated politcal debates from both sides elsewhere here, I would have thought more people would enjoy the opportunity to tell us what makes them tick and why.

Which is why I'm closing this. It's not that there is nothing wrong about hearing the opinions of others, but rather that some people have a tendency to react with hostility when those opinions are not shared. Civil political discourse is too easy to disrupt, and people will often try to disrupt it simply because they don't like what is being said. Past threads have always ended badly, so closing this before it creates more work and results in people being booted.