wesaynothin Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 While I was taking a walk one afternoon, I had one of them epiphanythingamojoggers. It goes like this: Everything on the foodchain has something above it, to keep it in check. But we Humans are the top of the food chain. So wouldn't that mean that war, disease, famine, and other horrible things are needed to keep the human population under control? Aren't life elongating medicines ruining the earth? Think and discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acoran Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Riuning the earth, yes, and in ways the lives of the human race but being a selfish as we are, we don't care much, we jsut think 'oh, we can always move to some other planet...' but personally, i fear dealth and as selfish as i know it is i would rather the medicen than a extra health planet... ok that was my little speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeLLL Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 :lol: Top of the food chain aye. Well I think alot of us would like to see ourselves in such light. Me personally. Im on the same level as everything else. No one above or below me. I think that all the diseases, war and famine are of our own bringing. If we co-exsited peacefully with everything instead of been fearfull of things and then killing it; but exsited as more of a hunter-gatherer sense then the world would not be ruined IMHO. <insert a really really really good quote to back up all my BS here> HeLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Exclude cremation and we get eaten when we die - just part of the food chain like everything else. There is an English folksong called On Ilkley Moor that puts it very well. And Acoran, there's no point being afraid of death - it's unavoidable. Has anyone thought about how these massive powercuts we've had around the world of late must be affecting those who believe in cryogenics? We all know what happens to the contents of the average deep freeze if we don't notice the power has gone. Ugh! I'll stop there. I'm starting to give myself nightmares and it's still morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 From what I could make of that song, it talks about "courting Mary Jane" without a hat, with a small, almost unrelated, section on worm money shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hi MB In the song you die and get eaten by worms. Ducks eat the worms. We eat the ducks. Giving the punch line -Then we shall all have eaten thee. But you knew that, didn't you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakkara Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Humans are filth and need to be eradicated before they spead to other planets :) Has anyone thought about how these massive powercuts we've had around the world of late must be affecting those who believe in cryogenics? We all know what happens to the contents of the average deep freeze if we don't notice the power has gone. Ugh! I'll stop there. I'm starting to give myself nightmares and it's still morning.Uhhmm no, temporary powerloss does not affect the containers they use to freeze corpses in at the moment, it takes weeks before the liquid N gets warm, so to speak. Some also use a system that is NOT cooled 24/7, it just has liquid N in it, and when it gets too 'hot' it is replaced by a fresh supply of cold stuff. Also, it is all airtight and often a lot of the corpses water has been removed or their blood replaced by I-dunno-what, so whatever happens it does not rot much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 But how much is much? Would you want to come to life even just a little bit rotted - internally I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojlnir Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I agree that we are not on the top of the food chain. We just seek to avoid situations were super predators exist. Take for example the ocean. You are not at the top of the food chain once you're in the water, plain and simple. Or perhaps the African savahna, again, not the top o' the food chain.Humans, as an organism, are unlike all others in that we do not coexist with our environment. To paraphrase Agent Smith *prepares to duck* humans are a virus that destroys its host and then moves in search of a new one. All other animals are contrained by the carrying capacity of their environment, in classic examples of the rabbit/wolf cycle that children learn about in grade school biology. Mobility and enginuity have allowed us to place our demands on the global rather than local level. We take from everywhere at the expense of what was originally there. Orangutangs (sp) are in serious danger of being extinct with 20 years. Bengal tigers, lemurs, moutain gorillas, elephants, rhinos, cheetas, snow leopards...must I go on?We have the greatest capacity for critical thought and problem solving ability of any species on this planet, yet we use our talents for violence and destruction. I love humanity and I want to see us colonize the stars, but if we continue to act this way, maybe we would be doing the universe a favor if we just died out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmid Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Humans, as an organism, are unlike all others in that we do not coexist with our environment. To paraphrase Agent Smith *prepares to duck* humans are a virus that destroys its host and then moves in search of a new one. All other animals are contrained by the carrying capacity of their environment, in classic examples of the rabbit/wolf cycle that children learn about in grade school biology. No, I would say that humans are not actually a virus, it is simply something entered the equation that nature never intended - technology. Because technology 'evolves' far faster than any natural phenomenon, nature cannot react and respond fast enough to any change that technology introduces and this throws the whole natural system out of whack. What so-called 'civilised' humans have relatively recently realised (but so-called 'savages', like the American Indians, have known for centuries) is that humans need to control this technology to limit this disruption or we will throw it so totally out of whack we will tear the whole thing to shreds. As for humans being at the top of the food chain, I would say we are at the top of our food chain, but that is simply part of a larger food web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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