A wasteland of games with no Nexus Mods community

[UhuruNUru]

What wasteland you may ask, well it roughly breaks down to old and new games.

 

Note: Old in this context is when the game was added to Nexus Mods, so Oblivion (released 2006) wasn't an old game when it was first supported here, but Crysis (released 2007) was old.

 

From the moment the Nexus allowed any game to be added to the games list, people have been adding games, with no controls or oversight in place.

Now anyone casually browsing the list can only see a barren wasteland of unsupported games.

 

First I'll show the Problem with some simple search data (Frozen at time of copying, so the big ones have likely changed, it's close enough for this posts topic, anyway)

 

Nexus Mods - Games in the Ten thousand+ range (10,000+ Mods) = 4 out of 164 Games

The biggest communities are Modding Fallout and The Elder Scrolls (No surprises here)

1^st Place: Skyrim 40,001 files
2^nd Place: Oblivion 27,617 files
3^rd Place: Fallout New Vegas 15,105 files
4^th Place: Fallout 3 13,698 files

 

Nexus Mods - Games in the quadrupal digit range (1,000 to 9,999 Mods) = 4 out of 164 Games
5^th Place: Morrowind 3,329 files
6^th Place: Dragon Age 2,243 files
7^th Place: Mount & Blade 2,068 files
8^th Place: War Thunder 1,535 files

 

Nexus Mods - Games in the Triple digit range (100 to 999 Mods) = 22 out of 164 Games

Line 25: Dark Souls 693 files
Line 26: Dark Souls 2 584 files
Line 37: Dragon Age 2 982 files
Line 38: Dragon Age: Inquisition 391 files
Line 48: Fallen Enchantress 101 files
Line 54: Far Cry 3 114 files
Line 77: Legend of Grimrock 291 files
Line 85: Mass Effect 3 236 files
Line 93: Mount & Blade Warband 898 files
Line 96: Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 160 files
Line 97: Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution 100 files
Line 99: Neverwinter Nights 120 files
Line 100: Neverwinter Nights 2 330 files
Line 120: Shadowrun Returns 108 files
Line 133: Starbound 484 files
Line 134: State of Decay 228 files
Line 135: Tabletop Simulator 205 files
Line 142: The Witcher 101 files
Line 143: The Witcher 2 324 files
Line 158: World of Tanks 725 files
Line 160: X: Rebirth 217 files
Line 162: XCOM: Enemy Unknown 189 files

 

 

Nexus Mods - Games in the double digit range (10 to 99 Mods) = 38 out of 164 Games

Line 9: Banished 19 files
Line 11: Batman: Arkham Origins 38 files
Line 14: Borderlands 17 files
Line 15: Borderlands 2 10 files
Line 21: Crusader Kings 2 11 files
Line 27: Darkest Dungeon 38 files
Line 33: Divinity: Original Sin 44 files
Line 40: Dungeon Defenders 35 files
Line 42: Dying Light 95 files
Line 44: Endless Legend 11 files
Line 45: Euro Truck Simulator 2 19 files
Line 55: Far Cry 4 10 files
Line 56: Faster Than Light 11 files
Line 59: Game Dev Tycoon 21 files
Line 62: Grand Theft Auto IV 21 files
Line 65: Halo: Combat Evolved 12 files
Line 68: Jade Empire 13 files
Line 73: Knights of the Old Republic 38 files
Line 74: Knights of the Old Republic II 41 files
Line 78: Legend of Grimrock 2 29 files
Line 83: Mass Effect 1 55 files
Line 84: Mass Effect 2 43 files
Line 90: Minecraft 36 files
Line 94: Mount & Blade With Fire and Sword 49 files
Line 102: Payday 2 31 files
Line 105: Planet Explorers 40 files
Line 110: Rimworld 79 files
Line 112: Rodina 28 files
Line 123: Sins of a Solar Empire 15 files
Line 127: Space Engineers 33 files
Line 130: Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force 11 files
Line 136: Team Fortress 2 14 files
Line 138: The Elder Scrolls Online 40 files
Line 140: The Sims 3 74 files
Line 149: Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 21 files
Line 155: Wasteland 2 33 files
Line 156: Watch Dogs 18 files
Line 164: Zoo Tycoon 2 56 files

 

 

Nexus Mods - Games in the single digit range (0 to 9 Mods) = 96 out of 164 Games

Line 1: 3089 3 files
Line 2: Age of Empires 1 files
Line 3: Age of Mythology Extended Edition 1 files
Line 4: ArmA 3 3 files
Line 5: Arx Fatalis 1 files
Line 6: Assassins Creed 1 files
Line 7: Assetto Corsa 7 files
Line 8: Baldur's Gate 2 Enhanced Edition 2 files
Line 10: Batman: Arkham City 1 files
Line 12: Battlefield 2 9 files
Line 13: Black and White 2 4 files
Line 16: Carmageddon Reincarnation 1 files
Line 17: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead 1 files
Line 18: Chivalry: Medieval Warfare 9 files
Line 19: Civilization IV: Colonization 1 files
Line 20: Command & Conquer: Generals 2 files
Line 22: Crysis 1 files
Line 23: Crysis Warhead 1 files
Line 24: Dark Messiah of Might and Magic 2 files
Line 28: Dead State 7 files
Line 29: Deus Ex 2 files
Line 30: Devil May Cry 3 1 files
Line 31: Disciples 3: Reincarnation 2 files
Line 32: Dishonored 1 files
Line 34: DmC: Devil May Cry 1 files
Line 35: Doom 3 3 files
Line 39: Drox Operative 4 files
Line 41: Dungeon Siege 1 2 files
Line 43: Dynasty Warriors 8: Extreme Legends 2 files
Line 46: Evil Genius 2 files
Line 47: Fable Anniversary 7 files
Line 49: Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes 6 files
Line 50: Fallout 2 9 files
Line 53: Fallout Tactics 1 files
Line 57: Final Fantasy 7 1 files
Line 58: Final Fantasy III 2 files
Line 60: Gothic 2 files
Line 61: Grand Theft Auto III 1 files
Line 63: Gruntz 3 files
Line 64: Half-Life 2 5 files
Line 66: Hearts of Iron III 2 files
Line 67: Insurgency 2 files
Line 69: Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis 1 files
Line 70: Just Cause 2 3 files
Line 71: Kenshi 3 files
Line 72: Kerbal Space Program 4 files
Line 75: Left 4 Dead 2 6 files
Line 76: Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 1 files
Line 79: Lego Marvel Super Heroes 3 files
Line 80: Live For Speed 3 files
Line 81: Madden NFL 08 7 files
Line 82: Mafia: City of Lost Heaven 4 files
Line 86: Medieval II: Total War 3 files
Line 87: Men of War 2 files
Line 88: Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes 8 files
Line 89: Might & Magic X: Legacy 3 files
Line 95: Myst Online: Uru Live 1 files
Line 98: NEO Scavenger 7 files
Line 103: Pillars of Eternity 3 files
Line 104: Pirates of the Caribbean 0 files
Line 106: Project Zomboid 8 files
Line 107: Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 4 files
Line 108: Remember Me 6 files
Line 109: Resident Evil 4 3 files
Line 111: Risen 7 files
Line 113: RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 1 files
Line 114: RPG Maker VX Ace 3 files
Line 115: Sacred 1 files
Line 116: Saints Row 3 1 files
Line 117: Saints Row 4 5 files
Line 118: Salt 4 files
Line 119: Savage XR 2 files
Line 121: Sid Meier's Ace Patrol 1 files
Line 122: Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth 7 files
Line 124: Sir, You Are Being Hunted 9 files
Line 126: South Park: The Stick of Truth 9 files
Line 128: Spintires 5 files
Line 129: Spore 1 files
Line 131: Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 1 files
Line 132: Star Wars: Empire at War 1 files
Line 137: Terraria 2 files
Line 139: The Legend of Korra 9 files
Line 141: The Sims 4 5 files
Line 144: Thief 2: The Metal Age 2 files
Line 145: Thief 3: Deadly Shadows 2 files
Line 146: Torchlight 2 9 files
Line 147: Towns 3 files
Line 148: TUG: The Untitled Game 2 files
Line 150: Void Destroyer 1 files
Line 151: VoidExpanse 8 files
Line 153: Warcraft 3 4 files
Line 154: Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate 2 files
Line 157: Wizard101 1 files
Line 159: World of Warplanes 1 files
Line 161: X3: Terran Conflict 7 files
Line 163: Xenonauts 6 files

 

 

Nexus Mods - All the games on the Nexus = 164 Games

 

Line 1: 3089 3 files
Line 2: Age of Empires 1 files
Line 3: Age of Mythology Extended Edition 1 files
Line 4: ArmA 3 3 files
Line 5: Arx Fatalis 1 files
Line 6: Assassins Creed 1 files
Line 7: Assetto Corsa 7 files
Line 8: Baldur's Gate 2 Enhanced Edition 2 files
Line 9: Banished 19 files
Line 10: Batman: Arkham City 1 files
Line 11: Batman: Arkham Origins 38 files
Line 12: Battlefield 2 9 files
Line 13: Black and White 2 4 files
Line 14: Borderlands 17 files
Line 15: Borderlands 2 10 files
Line 16: Carmageddon Reincarnation 1 files
Line 17: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead 1 files
Line 18: Chivalry: Medieval Warfare 9 files
Line 19: Civilization IV: Colonization 1 files
Line 20: Command & Conquer: Generals 2 files
Line 21: Crusader Kings 2 11 files
Line 22: Crysis 1 files
Line 23: Crysis Warhead 1 files
Line 24: Dark Messiah of Might and Magic 2 files
Line 25: Dark Souls 693 files
Line 26: Dark Souls 2 584 files
Line 27: Darkest Dungeon 38 files
Line 28: Dead State 7 files
Line 29: Deus Ex 2 files
Line 30: Devil May Cry 3 1 files
Line 31: Disciples 3: Reincarnation 2 files
Line 32: Dishonored 1 files
Line 33: Divinity: Original Sin 44 files
Line 34: DmC: Devil May Cry 1 files
Line 35: Doom 3 3 files
Line 36: Dragon Age 2,243 files
Line 37: Dragon Age 2 982 files
Line 38: Dragon Age: Inquisition 391 files
Line 39: Drox Operative 4 files
Line 40: Dungeon Defenders 35 files
Line 41: Dungeon Siege 1 2 files
Line 42: Dying Light 95 files
Line 43: Dynasty Warriors 8: Extreme Legends 2 files
Line 44: Endless Legend 11 files
Line 45: Euro Truck Simulator 2 19 files
Line 46: Evil Genius 2 files
Line 47: Fable Anniversary 7 files
Line 48: Fallen Enchantress 101 files
Line 49: Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes 6 files
Line 50: Fallout 2 9 files
Line 51: Fallout 3 13,698 files
Line 52: Fallout New Vegas 15,105 files
Line 53: Fallout Tactics 1 files
Line 54: Far Cry 3 114 files
Line 55: Far Cry 4 10 files
Line 56: Faster Than Light 11 files
Line 57: Final Fantasy 7 1 files
Line 58: Final Fantasy III 2 files
Line 59: Game Dev Tycoon 21 files
Line 60: Gothic 2 files
Line 61: Grand Theft Auto III 1 files
Line 62: Grand Theft Auto IV 21 files
Line 63: Gruntz 3 files
Line 64: Half-Life 2 5 files
Line 65: Halo: Combat Evolved 12 files
Line 66: Hearts of Iron III 2 files
Line 67: Insurgency 2 files
Line 68: Jade Empire 13 files
Line 69: Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis 1 files
Line 70: Just Cause 2 3 files
Line 71: Kenshi 3 files
Line 72: Kerbal Space Program 4 files
Line 73: Knights of the Old Republic 38 files
Line 74: Knights of the Old Republic II 41 files
Line 75: Left 4 Dead 2 6 files
Line 76: Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 1 files
Line 77: Legend of Grimrock 291 files
Line 78: Legend of Grimrock 2 29 files
Line 79: Lego Marvel Super Heroes 3 files
Line 80: Live For Speed 3 files
Line 81: Madden NFL 08 7 files
Line 82: Mafia: City of Lost Heaven 4 files
Line 83: Mass Effect 1 55 files
Line 84: Mass Effect 2 43 files
Line 85: Mass Effect 3 236 files
Line 86: Medieval II: Total War 3 files
Line 87: Men of War 2 files
Line 88: Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes 8 files
Line 89: Might & Magic X: Legacy 3 files
Line 90: Minecraft 36 files
Line 91: Morrowind 3,329 files
Line 92: Mount & Blade 2,068 files
Line 93: Mount & Blade Warband 898 files
Line 94: Mount & Blade With Fire and Sword 49 files
Line 95: Myst Online: Uru Live 1 files
Line 96: Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 160 files
Line 97: Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution 100 files
Line 98: NEO Scavenger 7 files
Line 99: Neverwinter Nights 120 files
Line 100: Neverwinter Nights 2 330 files
Line 101: Oblivion 27,617 files
Line 102: Payday 2 31 files
Line 103: Pillars of Eternity 3 files
Line 104: Pirates of the Caribbean 0 files
Line 105: Planet Explorers 40 files
Line 106: Project Zomboid 8 files
Line 107: Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 4 files
Line 108: Remember Me 6 files
Line 109: Resident Evil 4 3 files
Line 110: Rimworld 79 files
Line 111: Risen 7 files
Line 112: Rodina 28 files
Line 113: RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 1 files
Line 114: RPG Maker VX Ace 3 files
Line 115: Sacred 1 files
Line 116: Saints Row 3 1 files
Line 117: Saints Row 4 5 files
Line 118: Salt 4 files
Line 119: Savage XR 2 files
Line 120: Shadowrun Returns 108 files
Line 121: Sid Meier's Ace Patrol 1 files
Line 122: Sid Meier's Civilization: Beyond Earth 7 files
Line 123: Sins of a Solar Empire 15 files
Line 124: Sir, You Are Being Hunted 9 files
Line 125: Skyrim 40,001 files
Line 126: South Park: The Stick of Truth 9 files
Line 127: Space Engineers 33 files
Line 128: Spintires 5 files
Line 129: Spore 1 files
Line 130: Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force 11 files
Line 131: Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 1 files
Line 132: Star Wars: Empire at War 1 files
Line 133: Starbound 484 files
Line 134: State of Decay 228 files
Line 135: Tabletop Simulator 205 files
Line 136: Team Fortress 2 14 files
Line 137: Terraria 2 files
Line 138: The Elder Scrolls Online 40 files
Line 139: The Legend of Korra 9 files
Line 140: The Sims 3 74 files
Line 141: The Sims 4 5 files
Line 142: The Witcher 101 files
Line 143: The Witcher 2 324 files
Line 144: Thief 2: The Metal Age 2 files
Line 145: Thief 3: Deadly Shadows 2 files
Line 146: Torchlight 2 9 files
Line 147: Towns 3 files
Line 148: TUG: The Untitled Game 2 files
Line 149: Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 21 files
Line 150: Void Destroyer 1 files
Line 151: VoidExpanse 8 files
Line 152: War Thunder 1,535 files
Line 153: Warcraft 3 4 files
Line 154: Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate 2 files
Line 155: Wasteland 2 33 files
Line 156: Watch Dogs 18 files
Line 157: Wizard101 1 files
Line 158: World of Tanks 725 files
Line 159: World of Warplanes 1 files
Line 160: X: Rebirth 217 files
Line 161: X3: Terran Conflict 7 files
Line 162: XCOM: Enemy Unknown 189 files
Line 163: Xenonauts 6 files
Line 164: Zoo Tycoon 2 56 files

 

So what we see is pretty clear and with only one or two Steam controlled exceptions, New games are Modded on this site old ones are not.

 

This last seach really brings home the problem

 

Nexus Mods - Games with just one Mod = 29 out of 164 Games

Line 2: Age of Empires 1 files
Line 3: Age of Mythology Extended Edition 1 files
Line 5: Arx Fatalis 1 files
Line 6: Assassins Creed 1 files
Line 10: Batman: Arkham City 1 files
Line 16: Carmageddon Reincarnation 1 files
Line 17: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead 1 files
Line 19: Civilization IV: Colonization 1 files
Line 22: Crysis 1 files
Line 23: Crysis Warhead 1 files
Line 30: Devil May Cry 3 1 files
Line 32: Dishonored 1 files
Line 34: DmC: Devil May Cry 1 files
Line 53: Fallout Tactics 1 files
Line 57: Final Fantasy 7 1 files
Line 61: Grand Theft Auto III 1 files
Line 69: Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis 1 files
Line 76: Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 1 files
Line 95: Myst Online: Uru Live 1 files
Line 113: RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 1 files
Line 115: Sacred 1 files
Line 116: Saints Row 3 1 files
Line 121: Sid Meier's Ace Patrol 1 files
Line 129: Spore 1 files
Line 131: Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 1 files
Line 132: Star Wars: Empire at War 1 files
Line 150: Void Destroyer 1 files
Line 157: Wizard101 1 files
Line 159: World of Warplanes 1 files

Additionally one Game even has no Mods at all!
Line 104: Pirates of the Caribbean 0 files

 

Those are just pointless. Now I'm all for supporting modding of old games and if hosting assets, from sites that are being closed down is required, then I'd fully back that sort of addition.

 

The simple fact is if these old games are still being modded at all, they are being modded by their existing communities on the same sites they started on.

They will not migrate to Nexus Mods, except to save their community from oblivion (Damn Daedra messing with mortals again).

The best way to support these old and established communities, would be to provide links to their sites.

Offering the Nexus as a safe haven, if required and pointing those who want to mod these games to the best place to do it.

 

In general removing the games, already well supported elsewhere, from the lists entirely and creating the "Where to get mods for these older games" section, as I've described.

 

This would leave only the thriving Nexus Mods games and well stocked repositories, of games always supported by a Nexus Community.

 

To begin with the lists will be much smaller with games under 10 mods being the rough cut, but the fine tuning will add a few with more files here than ten, if a real community exists elswhere.

 

As a rough estimate only about 40 of the 164 games have any real community on the Nexus.

New games that are moddable should be always added and a Community established and supported.

However, if it becomes clear the fight is lost and the users have gone to another site, support that site.

 

The end result will be a Nexus Mods respected on other sites for supporting modding wherever the mod community chooses to exist.

A Nexus Mods always ready to provide a refuge for those communities if required.

A Nexus Mods where every hosted game has or once had a thriving community, not just the occaisional oasis amongst a wasteland of games with no Nexus Mods community at all.

[Thandal]

Sorry, I'm missing your point, (or maybe you're missing Dark0ne's?) :geek:

 

Dark0ne simply made it possible for a community interested in ANY game to be created here.

How vibrant those communities are is, well... up to each community.

 

If some other modding site has more activity around any particular game, great!

So the Nexus won't ever be the go-to site for mods for that game. So what?

 

(NOTE: A Nexus game site with no files occurs when someone uploads something and later removes it. Why do that? Who knows?)

[bben46]

This reminds me of what I call MBA thinking - Because some product we sell is not selling as well as some others, even if it is bringing in a small profit, we MUST remove that product and use what resources we are currently using for it somewhere else. Even though the resources are negligible and there is no way to use them to enhance sales on some other product. Net result - you lose what small profit you were getting from that product with absolutely no gain to any other. And, just maybe that product was bringing customers in the door that would then see something else.

 

(Yup, I have seen exactly this scenario play out in business.)

 

The point - someone googles a game that has just a few mods, or even the one with none. It sends them to the Nexus where they discover more games that they can mod - net result a new member downloading mods they didn't even know existed. :thumbsup:

[DrakeTheDragon]

Hmm, I fear I'm missing the point as well.

 

If this is about linking or cross-referencing to other communities more established somewhere else for certain games, well, feel free to do so. Last time I checked there's no cross-linking other community websites prohibition or anything in place here at all. And there should also be no rules preventing other communities' members from coming here and telling people of their own websites either. Why someone from the Nexus (staff?) should go out and search for those places they don't even know of just to link to them from here somewhat officially, or whatever it is that's asked for here, I somehow fail to understand.

 

But then again, what is it exactly this topic is asking for? What's the point? I somehow can't make much sense out of it, sorry. :unsure:

 

 

Oh, but one line in particular needs to be corrected:

 

 

However, if it becomes clear the fight is lost and the users have gone to another site, support that site.

That's one giant misunderstanding right there. There is no fight going on to begin with. This isn't a competition after all and never was it meant to be (Dark0ne correct me, if I'm wrong), but if it were the case, then many past decisions would've unfolded in entirely different directions by far.