Wynne vs Morrigan

[dragon awakened]

Still planning out the group I'm going to work with. I did quite a bit of character research on Wiki and found out that though she is working with you Morrigan is basicly an evil, conniving *female dog* that is very difficult to deal with at times. Given my penchant for making the "goody-two-shoes protector" decisions in any game I play she may be difficult to gain much favor with. My only other choice as a spell caster since my first run through is going to be a warrrior is Wynne.

 

I don't want to turn this into a "who is better" but my guess is that is what this will turn into. What are the strong and weak points to both? I understand that Morrigan has funnier lines but in the long run I want someone I can guarantee is watching my back. It is a tough decision and I'm not asking anybody to make a decision for me just some insight from those who have used them.

 

As always I thank you for your time.

 

Dragon Awakened

[Thandal]

Can't/won't answer this question directly. If you want spoilers, there are plernty avaialble. If you don't, then just as in real life you have to meet these people and interact with them to understand their personalities and capabilities (not to mention trustworthiness!)

 

Any opinions that other players might offer are going to be either a) so coloured by their own experiences in the game based on the decisons they made as to have almost no value for you, or b) so detrimental to your being able to form your own impressions as to remove what is, in my opinion, one of the major reason to play the game at all. To wit: figuring this out! :laugh:

 

Get the game! Play the game! At least once. All the way through. Without mods. Then come here and discuss what you saw, felt, liked, disliked, want differnt, want to do over, etc. Otherwise, you're just looking at shadows of someones else's game.

[ell46]

What is worrying you so much you are planning a game you haven't played yet and making choices about companions you haven't met, are you only planning on doing one play through?

 

You aren't doing yourself any favours in planning a game you haven't played and making decisions about people you haven't met, your companions are what YOU make them, to some degree, some you will like some you won't and over more than one play through your opinion of them might change, I know mine did.

 

Why don't you just relax wait for the game to arrive and go with it :) what's the worst that can happen :whistling: you reload a saved game and do it differently, by taking different companions out, you will find out by playing the game who suits your style of play best, not by someone else telling you or by what you read in the Wiki.

 

What other people think about Wynne v Morrigan doesn't count for diddly. I found Morrigan very easy to like and got on well with her, I liked Wynne then as I did more playthroughs she started to drive me up the wall. I hated Sten for the first 2 games, then for some unknown reason I started to understand the character and we get on famously. I like Alistair a lot of people don't so how are you supposed to choose when you have one person saying this ones best... no I think the other ones best?

 

How much longer is it before your game arrives by the way?

[dragon awakened]

Getting paid tomorrow so it may be a few days with a supposed storm rolling in. I will however cease asking questions and ask that this be closed. I tend to be a bit enthusiastic about new games and sometimes do not catch that I'm annoying anybody until it is too late. Edited December 3, 2010 by dragon awakened

[brokenergy]

Still planning out the group I'm going to work with. I did quite a bit of character research on Wiki and found out that though she is working with you Morrigan is basicly an evil, conniving *female dog* that is very difficult to deal with at times. Given my penchant for making the "goody-two-shoes protector" decisions in any game I play she may be difficult to gain much favor with. My only other choice as a spell caster since my first run through is going to be a warrrior is Wynne.

 

I don't want to turn this into a "who is better" but my guess is that is what this will turn into. What are the strong and weak points to both? I understand that Morrigan has funnier lines but in the long run I want someone I can guarantee is watching my back. It is a tough decision and I'm not asking anybody to make a decision for me just some insight from those who have used them.

 

As always I thank you for your time.

 

Dragon Awakened

 

I think that you simplified the characters a bit. Wynne's a bit of a hypocrite while Morrigan is amoral and very pragmatic. I urge you to play the game and choose yourself and develop their friendship to understand them. You are better off keeping both of them and using them in different situations as they are both useful. Wynne is a great defensive and supportive mage, good when you want healing and stuff while Morrigan is a great offensive mage, good at giving massive damage. Please don't spoil yourself by reading and doing research as it will make the game dull. It's all about the fun and planning something while you don't know the game mechanics is just silly. Plus you are better off doing more than one walk though as it is very massive game and one walk though wont let you enjoy the experience.

[ell46]

Getting paid tomorrow so it may be a few days with a supposed storm rolling in. I will however cease asking questions and ask that this be closed. I tend to be a bit enthusiastic about new games and sometimes do not catch that I'm annoying anybody until it is too late.

 

Your not annoying me, I can assure you, if you where I wouldn't even bother posting. I just feel that you are going to spoil the game for youself by trying to plan things and you appear to be about to start a game with preconceived ideas of your companions and yourself. Be patient I know it's not easy when you want a game NOW just trust us when we say stop planning.

 

There is nothing wrong with reading up on the wiki if you don't mind having the whole game plotted and laid out for you, plus it's cheating ;D , personally I prefer to go into these things blind and check later to see what I missed, there is an extremely funny thread on the BW forum people posting about the things they missed on their first playthroughs. I'm not giving you the link, because I think it's more fun to play the game and try and figure things out yourself, plus, if you read it now you would be cheating :teehee:

 

Why not spend your time checking out all the mods, play the first game without any and then as you play, mods you have seen and read about should pop into your mind and you can plan to add them for the next game.

Edited December 3, 2010 by ell46

[Viperswhip]

By the end of the first village you should know whether Morrigan is the companion for you.

[RustyBlade]

By the end of the first village you should know whether Morrigan is the companion for you.

 

Quite true; takes a few conversations (sometimes more) before Wynne gets on your back... err.. I mean nerves :whistling:

 

Seriously, they are both dysfunctional when it comes to dealing with real world people like the warden (regardless of background) and each in their own way. They are imperfect as are we all and only the individual will determine which (if any) is right to accompany them. One thing not said yet is even if you choose to dismiss them both and send them packing, by the time Awakenings is over, both will be back - kind of like a fungus :rolleyes:

[WrathOfDeadguy]

Wynne can be a little patronizing, but she means well- she's the only one in the party who's lived a full, rich life and remembered it all... she's learned from her mistakes and doesn't want to see you, the party leader, repeat them. She says herself that she was more than a little b****y in her younger years, but several bitter lessons caused her to mellow out.

 

I like Morrigan... she reminds me a lot of a character I wrote some time ago for a project that never quite got off the ground. Once she lets you in, you'll be best friends forever and she's loyal as a dog, but getting there is fifty miles of bad road on three flat tires and god help you if you ever piss her off. She doesn't strike me as evil, just callous and self-serving with an admittedly tiny warm spot for her one friend/lover (you). She'll do what you ask her to, regardless of how little she likes it (unlike *certain* other party members who'll outright betray you or leave you), but she won't hesitate to tell you exactly what she thinks of your decisions and it's pretty clear that she's playing the long game from square one.

 

Now, Flemeth on the other hand... hardcore, manipulative evil. First time through I was seriously expecting her to be revealed as the true Big Bad. Her influence on Morrigan's personality is clear, but if Morrigan is an ice queen then Flemeth spits liquid nitrogen.

Edited December 4, 2010 by Wrath_Of_Deadguy01

[DarkeWolf]

Getting paid tomorrow so it may be a few days with a supposed storm rolling in. I will however cease asking questions and ask that this be closed. I tend to be a bit enthusiastic about new games and sometimes do not catch that I'm annoying anybody until it is too late.

 

We actually have a really good crowd of regulars here at the DA forums, and after reading thru the comments, I can honestly say that they dont seem to be annoyed with you. Thandal sounds like he might be kinda tired, but otherwise everybody seems to be just giving advice that we give to a lot of new players.

So dont worry about that ;)

 

IF you do want to go ahead and get this thread closed, there's a small [ ! ] Report icon under your name information, at the very bottom of your post. You can click on that, and fill out a report that will be sent to us staff members. In the description line, just note that you would like to have your thread closed, and the staffer that gets the report/request will get it taken care of.

OR if you would like to have this moved to the spoilers section where people will be more free with their opinions about both characters, based on in-game situations, you can just request to have that done in the report too ;)

 

That said.... Morrigan. Morrigan is one of those characters that you love her, or you hate her. And sometimes, you have to get thru the game once, twice, thrice, to really pick up on just how deep the nuances of her character really run.

Before I'd played, my opinion of her was much the same as what you're describing, based off of spoilers. However, after actually playing the game, she's one of my favorite characters.

Yes, she disapproves of a lot of your choices, and sometimes that can be aggrivating. But all said she's a very fun character. Especially if you're the type of person that likes to look into the roots and causes of people's behavior.

 

Wynn- I will say that most of us get tired of wynn after a while. Usually around our 3rd playthrough. She has the personality of a buttinsky, a nag, and a know-it-all. She makes you feel like she's preaching you all the time.

 

If anything, I would watch their skillsets more often than their personalities. If you're not playing mods that allow you to choose their skills, their differences in skills can really affect your team. Wynn's vanilla skills are heavily geared towards healing and defense and boosts. Where Morrigan's is geared more towards offense and damage.

Edited December 4, 2010 by DarkeWolf