TheThirdRace Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Hi, First thing first, I would like to mention that I am a programmer, I know my way around a computer and I don't play with water near the computer case! I am not a dumb one. About a month ago, I had to format my hard drive since my video card's driver upgrade messed everything up. Until then, I was playing Oblivion since the launch day, with at least 75 mods added trough new games, old games, patched oblivion games and so on. Everything was fine. In the last month, I had to format my hard drive 5 times to remove problems with oblivion. I managed to retify almost all of them but there is still two problem I can't resolve. First, there is the uninstall problem where I always get a .cpp dll file missing. Fact: Oblivion has a crappy installation program, everything to manage the game is totally crappy. So everytime I have to test something that need a fresh oblivion installation I have to format my windows partition. If anyone has a solution for the problem listed below, please answer me. >SetupDLL\SetupDLL.cpp (390) PAPP: Oblivion PVENDOR: Bethesda Softworks .... PGUID:35CB6715-41F8-4F99-8881-6FC75BF054B0 $11.0.0.2884 @Windows XP Service Pack2 (2006) BT_OTHER 0.0 The only thing I can have messed up is that the setup installation program of oblivion stalled at a black screen after I clicked the finish button at the end of the setup. But that shouldn't be the problem since it always did that to me and I was running the game just fine. Anyway, I just killed the application since I hope there is no super hyper moron at Bethesda that though it would be super cool to install something after the "Everything have been installed on your computer, please press the finished button" to exit setup. Any answer to that would be greatly appreciated. But here is THE problem I want to solve so bad. Every new game, with or without any mod, with or without obse, with or without alteration from obmm, I get stuck with defect feather's spells. I can cast them, but I just get a ridiculously low effect on my character. Example: I cast "Beast of Burden", 200 feather points or something like that and I get a magnificent 4 points. Every subsequent "Ease Burden", "Lighthen Load" or "Pack Mule" give me a plain 0 feather points. That suck a lot. I tried uninstalling, but as I said, I didn't have much success with that. I tried formatting my hard drive, with no success at all. Even the plain installation of oblivion without anything except the patch give me this behaviour. I even check if my DVD wasn't scratched but it wasn't the case. I don't know what to do to solve this, do you? It can't be my computer, I run the same programs for over a year, I have all the newly patches for Windows, I don't run any untrusty programs and I am paranoid about security, spywares and breaches so it's not a virus or anything else. Oblivion just stop working for an unknown reason. I would be grateful to get an answer or at least an hint to solve this. Right now, the only thing I wanna do is to go to the Bethesda office and burn my oblivion dvd right in front of them and tell them how crappy they programm their stuff. I mean common, have you seen the CS? That is a SHAME. By folks, thanks in advance for the answers. Have a nice day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 ...It can't be my computer, I run the same programs for over a year, I have all the newly patches for Windows, I don't run any untrusty programs and I am paranoid about security, spywares and breaches so it's not a virus or anything else. Oblivion just stop working for an unknown reason....Oooh! A paradox!*Poing!**Poing!**Poing!* Did you try reinstalling Windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThirdRace Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Ahem, Thanks for the efforts, but as I said, I know my way around a computer. If you read carefully my post, I said I formatted my hard drive at least 5 times to test with a fresh oblivion installation. So when you format your hard drive, you have to install first an operating system. Since Oblivion doesn't run on Linux, I had to re-install Windows. And I did it over 5 times, the same way I did the previous, oh at least, 100 times. If the part where I say that I run the same programs for over a year now, I meant I keep the installation program of all program I installed and re-install them as soon as I am finished re-installing Windows XP. So yes, I run the same programs, with the same settings. I know that sounds crazy and repetitive, but that's the way I am around computers and everything is running fine on those I touch, except of course when I try to get Oblivion running properly. And I know where my Oblivion DVD will go if I don't find the problem, right where everything that doesn't work go: GARBAGE. I don't mean to be rude, I appreciate your efforts, but I said I wasn't dumb to avoid those kinds of question. I need real answers, something that will actually get me somewhere. As I said, thanks for your efforts, even if this doesn't help me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramul Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Ehh, missed that part. The logical next step would be to see if it works normally if installed on a different computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longun Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Ahem, Thanks for the efforts, but as I said, I know my way around a computer. If you read carefully my post, I said I formatted my hard drive at least 5 times to test with a fresh oblivion installation. So when you format your hard drive, you have to install first an operating system. Since Oblivion doesn't run on Linux, I had to re-install Windows. And I did it over 5 times, the same way I did the previous, oh at least, 100 times. If the part where I say that I run the same programs for over a year now, I meant I keep the installation program of all program I installed and re-install them as soon as I am finished re-installing Windows XP. So yes, I run the same programs, with the same settings. I know that sounds crazy and repetitive, but that's the way I am around computers and everything is running fine on those I touch, except of course when I try to get Oblivion running properly. And I know where my Oblivion DVD will go if I don't find the problem, right where everything that doesn't work go: GARBAGE. I don't mean to be rude, I appreciate your efforts, but I said I wasn't dumb to avoid those kinds of question. I need real answers, something that will actually get me somewhere. As I said, thanks for your efforts, even if this doesn't help me at all. ----------- If something bad causing you to format the HDD and reinstall the windows and the game, and still having the SAME problem; There are only 2 things left to be consider or look into for solutions. First, after reinstalled the windows, make sure to give it all of the windows update patches installed + directX + of course video and sound driver, then lastly the game and its (correct version) update patch. (i know you already know all this, but just want to mention them anyway.) Second, like a previous guy have said, install and run the game on a different computer, or if you don't have an extra one, try to install and run the game to a different HDD. And if possible, play on different video card. Even though the game worked for you before, there's a possibility that one of your hardware (video card, hard drive, maybe more?) is the cause. Hope this helps, bro. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tessera Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Ahem, Thanks for the efforts, but as I said, I know my way around a computer. That's good to know, but if you've been having this degree of difficulty, then you've obviously overlooked something. Let's see if we can find it. If you read carefully my post, I said I formatted my hard drive at least 5 times to test with a fresh oblivion installation. So when you format your hard drive, you have to install first an operating system. Since Oblivion doesn't run on Linux, I had to re-install Windows. And I did it over 5 times, the same way I did the previous, oh at least, 100 times. Whoa... this is already excessive. Speaking as a hardware geek, I can tell you that this sounds supiciously like a controller failure or something of that nature. Failing hard drives are another possibility... try running something like Seagate's DiskWizard tools and do a S.M.A.R.T. check to get a status return from the drive itself. A failing or inadequate power supply is often overlooked by most people. If you've recently upgraded to a more powerful video card, for example, your old PS may no longer be able to keep up with the load and all sorts of anomalies can result., throughout your system and because of wildly fluctuating voltages on the main rails. A corrupted system BIOS can sometimes (but not usually) be another place to look. Flashing the BIOS fixes that in most cases, but let's try other things first. For now, deactivate any overclocking or memory acceleration (including "Turbo" mode) that may be enabled in your system BIOS, at least until you can rule out any other causes. If we can assume that your peripherals are in good shape... your drives, your video card, sound card, etc... and yet, you're still having to perform a massive system overhaul like this... hmmm. If you have another computer with a different motherboard, I'd install and test the game on your other machine first and make sure that your problem isn't simply a corrupted installation disk (or a bad CD/DVD drive). Obviously, I'm just tossing out random suggestions to ya... since it's a bit difficult to determine exactly where your problem lies, based upon the info that you've provided. You may simply have something like a software driver problem. On the other hand, I'm a hardware person and I always tend to suspect hardware issues whenever I see people having to repeatedly jump through hoops, the way you've been forced to. Start testing individual hardware components. That's my best advice at this juncture. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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