Dagger of Symachus Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 LOL :lol: . But I think that Mehrunes Razor is way over rated. It isn't even close to the power that an ancient silver dagger gets. Plus there are 8 of them. Sure they are just enchanted silver daggers... hey stop looking at me like I'm wierd. They're good weapons. Most people just toss them once they find them, since they are an easy 800 gold. But they are pretty good for an assasin and they each wiegh only 1.4 pounds so I don't think they will make a severe dent in your encumbrance. I think they have a damage potential of over 100 (with poison damage). So I'd say they are pretty good. Black Hands Dagger... I only used that a few times when I was clearing out some daedric ruins in the Molag Amur, Red Mountain, and Ashlands regions. But from when I used them, it was insanely powerful, but you only got like fifteen hits before it ran out of charges. After that it is like a light daedric tanto (damage of daedric tanto, wieght and look of daedric dagger). Keening is an all right weapon, but when it comes to a good thief or assasin you have to use a heavy, sixteen pound gauntlet to wear it and not take damage. SIXTEEN pounds. Once I get Tribunal, that will be how much my character will wiegh overall. Keening has the kind of enchantment that you would want on a ring or something. And how can no one mention the Fang of Hynamett (spelling I think as I am too cheap to see how you spell it). With a 100 strength, it has a damage potential of a 100! It weighs five pounds (four less then the Black Hands Dagger). It also has an enchantment that lasts longer (I don't know for 100 enchant skill, but for one in the sixties it had a good twenty or thirty strikes before it ran out). It also has the highest armor points of all shortswords. It has 5000! If you have Tribunal (only know this from the cheating on Tribunal artifacts) the Dagger of Symmachus is pretty good. It wieghs 1.8 pounds which is good for a dagger as powerful as it. I rank this as the most powerful weapon in the game for shortswords. I also read its statistics (namely strike speed). HOLY CRAP. It has a speed of 2.7! That may not seem like much to you, but a daedric dagger (fastest weapon in the original game) has a speed of 2.5. That makes it have the fastest stirkes in the game :D . It also has a damage potential of around 40 with 100 strength. It has 3000 armor points (making it the second longest lasting shortsword in the game). It also has a constant effect enchantment of fortify endurance and shortsword 10 points and I think 10 or 20 point reflect. So it is a good item enchantment wise too. If you are early on in the game, a dwemer jinkblade is really good. I used my old one until level eight or so. And the best weapon for "quick strickers" is the ebony shortsword. It is fast (I think it has a speed of 2.0) and has the highest low damage in the game. Meaning you have 100% chance of getting a good strike in even once you hit fast. I think the best enchantment for it (like everything) is absorb health however many points it can be enchanted with (my estimate is 25 points or around there). So just pick from this list for which one you want. If you are early on in the game, buy a dwemer jinkblade. If you like striking fast then get and ebony shortsword. If you find your new ebony shortsword too weak, then enchant it with absorb health as many points as you can. If you want a dagger that is pretty good and can help you with some good constant effect enchantments, then go with the Dagger of Symmachus. If you like going out into the country for a long time and also want a good dagger, then pick the Fang of Hynemett. If you want a big power item (note: I suggest not making this your main weapon. Pick an ebony shortsword or some other good item and then just use this one when you need ot bring on the pain to your opponents), the pick the Black Hands Dagger. If you want some REALLY good enchantments and don't mind the extra wieght, the pick Keening. If you don't mind carrying around a couple of extra daggers that are pretty strong and are good on werewolves, the pick the ancient silver daggers (note: all of these together only have 800 armor points so carry around some armorer hammers or be prepared to go back to civilization pretty quick). And if you want an item with less power, but lasts longer then the ancient silver daggers (note: Mehrunes Razor does have better physical damage then the ancient silver daggers, so if the ancient silver daggers are out of charge, Mehrunes Razor is MUCH better) then pick Mehtrunes Razo. Hope this helps you on picking your shortsword :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 I'm using a blade I picked up a few days ago... Saint's Black Sword or something like that. It heals me and Fortifies Endurance... Before that I was using an Adamint (sp) Blade of something or other... I picked it off a dead Dark Brotherhood assassin =) It paralyzed and Poisened. But I got irritated with it constantly running out of charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LALALA Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 First i used Last wish then glass jinkblade(i have 6 of them but now they are all in my manor) and now i use daedric wakizashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizok Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Use the Daedric Wakizaski, think it`s good for a thief :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 This thread was defunct. Why try to breathe life into it. Please don't forget these are not debates but answers to questions. Ngh! No more necromancy thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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