It's not fascism when we do it

[SKS]

I don't think that the US is becoming Fascist, as there is no mass basis for it. I think that today, Fascism is largely a political swearword, used against a right-wing person that someone does not like.

 

Has the US been headed in a reactionary direction? Yes, it has. But it is not fascist. In fact, more and more people over here in the US are not happy with the way things are being run. I seriously doubt that they would tolerate Fascism.

[Karasuman]

Fascist? I failed to see the jet plane that crashed into the Reichstag before Hitler began his advance. I definitely don't agree with everything Bush does (or this country in general), but a retaliatory response is not Fascism.

 

Let's say someone wrecks a car into your house attempting to kill you because they don't like you or your past practices. You going to turn the other cheek, or would you rather risk looking "fascist" to go after them?

 

The only other thing I'll add is that I do think the US's stay in the Middle East is way too over-extended.

 

EDIT: To respond to the claim that the Nazis "weren't efficient in anything but killing people," it may interest you to know that for a large portion of Nazi rule, the Germans were the most technologically advanced and highest producing nation in the Western World, and that includes the US. That's why everyone had such a hard time with them. You don't obtain that level of technology and military strength by being inefficient. It was only toward the end of WW2 when the German economy and government really fell apart. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer or anything, those are just facts. I've read a great deal on the subject of WW2.

[FritzDerochebrune]

Fascist? I failed to see the jet plane that crashed into the Reichstag before Hitler began his advance. I definitely don't agree with everything Bush does (or this country in general), but a retaliatory response is not Fascism.

Well, you are right: there was no jet plane that crashed in the Reichstag. But AH did use the 'Fire in the Reichstag' to take full control of Germany, thus beginning his advance. Still, you are right: the US can't be called a fascist state.

EDIT: To respond to the claim that the Nazis "weren't efficient in anything but killing people," it may interest you to know that for a large portion of Nazi rule, the Germans were the most technologically advanced and highest producing nation in the Western World, and that includes the US. That's why everyone had such a hard time with them. You don't obtain that level of technology and military strength by being inefficient. It was only toward the end of WW2 when the German economy and government really fell apart. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer or anything, those are just facts. I've read a great deal on the subject of WW2.

Indeed: Germany had the best weapons of WW2. They were close to creating a rocket called the V4 (or V5, can't remember exactly), which could hit New York. As said above, Germany had the first operational jet fighters. Also, tanks with IR were used at the end of the war, but AT-guns with IR were already used in 1940! The only thing allies had before Germany, was the A-bomb. O, yes, I'm no Nazi sympathizer either, just interested in the German Armed Forces during WWII!

[PaulEmil]

True, true. Definitely not fascist. But to the casual observer, Bush and cronies can be seen as a worryingly rightwing and fundamentalist government. They ain't too big on human rights either (much like the Nazis, but with less executions (probably) and more religion).

[Sativarg]

fascism

Differences and similarities with Nazism

 

Nazism

 

ism: "Formalism, by being an 'ism,' kills form by hugging it to death" (Peter Viereck). :glare:

a distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice: This is the age of isms.

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ism ......n. Informal

A distinctive doctrine, system, or theory: "Formalism, by being an 'ism,' kills form by hugging it to death" (Peter Viereck).

 

Whats my point? Good question. I have no point. Or, more to the point, what's the point?

 

We can put a tag on it and name it; what ever! The fact is, America is not perfect, it's just big and powerful and dangerous as well as young and beautiful and full of potential. The American form of government is a living experiment. If this experiment is not allowed to adapt according to the truth it will fail. The American people are supposed to know the truth and use that knowledge to adapt. If they are kept from the truth how can Americans know how to change. Democracy cannot exist in an environment of lies and secrecy. Niether can it exist in the darkness of ignorance and apathy. So, again what's the point. :closedeyes:

[Kragnor]

This nation (and soon the whole world) is realm of double standards. For instance, I cannot use the "N" word because I'm white, but a black person can because he is black. Didn't we call that Racism? No. The double standard erases those titles on certain people.

 

This "I can do it, but you can't" Idea is one of the reasons most of the world hates us. It all starts with the people. If the people become more moral and realize that there is no color, but only people, then we might be able to restore a good name for the American people to the world.