Fedack Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I have made a petition to show our support for all the modders that left. A letter of apology and plea for forgiveness. To ask the modders, chesko and the others to come back, for all of those who walked away. https://www.change.org/p/chesko-skyrim-modders-chesko-and-skyrim-modders-please-come-back Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noortje Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Not going to beg for forgiveness because I didn't join the hate train. Also Chesko is not gone he is taking a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiries Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'm almost positive you can't make petitions to get people to come back to a community... ..I'm joking though, I understand what you're doing. Still, I think a heartfelt PM could mean a lot more than another change dot org link. Something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasmann Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 You made a petition? Seriously?I don't see much sense in that. Personally I don't blame anyone who wanted to utilize the paid mod system.Even though, being a modder myself, I think it was nonsense.It was an opportunity to make money and they took it.Life is rough and every possibility to make some money is welcome. That being said, I don't think you can make them come back with a petition.If they don't want to, they won't. I'm sure everybody would forgive them this debacle, but lets not forget one thing:They also need to forgive us because in their eyes we ruined this new way of making money. Give it some time, maybe they'll come back eventually. And to the people who want to boycott them:Stop that stupid bullshit! How will anyone benefit from that?It's not that big of a deal.They just wanted to make some money, have a better life. The best thing we can do is leave them alone.Let them process what just went down.If they are ready to come back hopefully this whole mess is over and they can just be a members of a once awesome community again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedack Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 You made a petition? Seriously?I don't see much sense in that. Personally I don't blame anyone who wanted to utilize the paid mod system.Even though, being a modder myself, I think it was nonsense.It was an opportunity to make money and they took it.Life is rough and every possibility to make some money is welcome. That being said, I don't think you can make them come back with a petition.If they don't want to, they won't. I'm sure everybody would forgive them this debacle, but lets not forget one thing:They also need to forgive us because in their eyes we ruined this new way of making money. Give it some time, maybe they'll come back eventually. And to the people who want to boycott them:Stop that stupid bulls***! How will anyone benefit from that?It's not that big of a deal.They just wanted to make some money, have a better life. The best thing we can do is leave them alone.Let them process what just went down.If they are ready to come back hopefully this whole mess is over and they can just be a members of a once awesome community again. I make a petition so that the modders that see it take solace in it and consider that there are people that actually care and want them there. That among all those haters there are some that appreciate them and are glad of all they give to the community. It's aimed at those that left because they got undeserved hate or got some death threats. It's aimed at those that really care but were scared away by all the negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laereal Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I don't think this is the best way of making people stick around. It might make things more complicated than it ought to be if/when they refuse the request for their own sanity's sake. I think we should let them be to decide for themselves if they want to go or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowgirl1776 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) I'm glad I came back to Skyrim a day after this entire thing was over. Personally I see no reason why modders shouldn't have the option to sell their work. They pour hundreds, if not thousands, of hours into their projects. Many of them have created vital contributions to my Skyrim experience such as SkyUI, a mod that I can simply never live without. I don't mind paying a fair price for them. The issue I do take is how Valve handled it. The situation was terrible with people stealing material, no quality control, no price guidelines, and just 25% of the money going to the mod maker(s). We had mods selling for $100 that literally added nothing to the game as a joke. Would I like all mods to stay free? Of course I would, but I also understand it from the modder's perspective. One of my favorite mods, Maids II: Deception, has been in development for years. The guys and girls making the mod have lives of their own. They need to earn a living and when mod development sucks so much of their time up it's a wonder it's even getting finished. Had they been able to earn perhaps $5,000 a year then I could say that said mod would have been finished in half the time with even higher degrees of quality. I fully understand the fear many people have. Mods are an amazing thing and they work. Screwing with a system that works is often an awful idea. I don't feel that that fear constitutes the sheer ugliness directed toward mod authors. It's a damned shame about what happened to Chesko. The poor guy was minding his own business when Bethesda sent him an email offering to let him sell his work on the Workshop. Over 100,000 hours’ worth of service that remained free on the Nexus and in exchange people shat on him. Edited April 29, 2015 by cowgirl1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korodic Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yes, please come back Chesko ... and work for us forever! Free! Forever free!We forgive you./sarcasimWhy should he come back to a community that expects him to work for free and took away a right for all Skyrim modders to charge for their work if they saw fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasmann Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Why should he come back to a community that expects him to work for free and took away a right for all Skyrim modders to charge for their work if they saw fit? That's probably the reason why they left in the first place.They took it personal.I wrote my opinion on the steam forums but I never attacked a modder who used the system.The modders haven't done anything wrong by using it and I'm ashamed of the people who gave them s#*! for it. In my eyes it was just a shady system that rewarded the wrong people with a too high percentage.Also It didn't fit the bethesda-game mod landscape. And it had to go. I don't understand how anybody could attack or threaten a modder for using it in the first place.But that's just the "internet I can say what I want" mentality, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isvenah Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 The modders haven't done anything wrong by using it and I'm ashamed of the people who gave them s*** for it. In my eyes it was just a shady system that rewarded the wrong people with a too high percentage.Also It didn't fit the bethesda-game mod landscape. And it had to go. That kinda conflicts itself...? If they joined up it means they supported it, what means they lowered the value of work of every other modder who may have wanted to sell his work and earn more than measly 25% But I agree with the rest, the threats were childish and undeserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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