Faction system broken--how to fix?

[mecha51]

Some spoilers ahead: I've only played one game so far. I got to the quest with Caesar and decided to side the Legion. I did what he asked in the Mr Houses vault, came out and turned the solar weapon against the NCR.

 

I then decided to hunt down all NCR in my new role as Legion supporter. I killed every NCR I came across--probably about a dozen total.

 

I then went to their base by the lake, I forget what it is called. To my surprise the NCR troopers didn't open fire on me on site. Instead they welcomed me in and told me where the boss was and that I was welcome to go talk to him.

 

I had encountered a few minor bugs prior to this, but this one was a deal-breaker for me. I mean the faction system is such a huge part of the game.

 

I downloaded the latest patch and jumped back into the game thinking maybe they fixed it. No dice. Again I killed NCR all over the place and they still welcomed me in.

 

Has anyone else had this problem? It's a shame because I was really enjoying up until this happened. If I kill guardsmin Oblivion all the guards in the game will attack me on site afterwards. Why can't FNV get this right?

[mecha51]

No one else has faction issues? I'm desperate here. I don't know what to do to make the game playable. It sucks because I'm a huge Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout 3 fan and I really want to play the hell out of New Vegas.

[secksegai]

Some spoilers ahead: I've only played one game so far. I got to the quest with Caesar and decided to side the Legion. I did what he asked in the Mr Houses vault, came out and turned the solar weapon against the NCR.

 

I then decided to hunt down all NCR in my new role as Legion supporter. I killed every NCR I came across--probably about a dozen total.

 

I then went to their base by the lake, I forget what it is called. To my surprise the NCR troopers didn't open fire on me on site. Instead they welcomed me in and told me where the boss was and that I was welcome to go talk to him.

 

I had encountered a few minor bugs prior to this, but this one was a deal-breaker for me. I mean the faction system is such a huge part of the game.

 

I downloaded the latest patch and jumped back into the game thinking maybe they fixed it. No dice. Again I killed NCR all over the place and they still welcomed me in.

 

Has anyone else had this problem? It's a shame because I was really enjoying up until this happened. If I kill guardsmin Oblivion all the guards in the game will attack me on site afterwards. Why can't FNV get this right?

 

Faction issues reported by members have almost (if not always) been mod related.... would you happen to have the Wasteland Defense mod?

[mecha51]

Some spoilers ahead: I've only played one game so far. I got to the quest with Caesar and decided to side the Legion. I did what he asked in the Mr Houses vault, came out and turned the solar weapon against the NCR.

 

I then decided to hunt down all NCR in my new role as Legion supporter. I killed every NCR I came across--probably about a dozen total.

 

I then went to their base by the lake, I forget what it is called. To my surprise the NCR troopers didn't open fire on me on site. Instead they welcomed me in and told me where the boss was and that I was welcome to go talk to him.

 

I had encountered a few minor bugs prior to this, but this one was a deal-breaker for me. I mean the faction system is such a huge part of the game.

 

I downloaded the latest patch and jumped back into the game thinking maybe they fixed it. No dice. Again I killed NCR all over the place and they still welcomed me in.

 

Has anyone else had this problem? It's a shame because I was really enjoying up until this happened. If I kill guardsmin Oblivion all the guards in the game will attack me on site afterwards. Why can't FNV get this right?

 

Faction issues reported by members have almost (if not always) been mod related.... would you happen to have the Wasteland Defense mod?

 

I haven't installed any mods yet. I wanted to try one play through on vanilla.

 

So what happens if you attack members of a faction and become vilified? Am I correct in assuming they should attack you on site after that? NCR greeting me and trading with me after I kill a dozen of them is either incredibly dumb gameplay or broken, I think.

[secksegai]

Honestly never had that much of a problem with Faction mod free (or modded). Glad to hear your initial trial run is vanilla (as it should be).

 

You honestly don't need to be vilified for people to become hostile- by the time you're vilified it's effectively guaranteed.

 

Short of getting amnesty when starting on the final quest lines, you're rep never stops being completely negative as far as I've ever seen. Same goes for positive, as you end up with a mixed rep.

 

Also keep in mind faction armor can affect your rep - there's also a bug that occurs when using jury rig and repairing equipped armor.....

[mecha51]

You honestly don't need to be vilified for people to become hostile- by the time you're vilified it's effectively guaranteed.

 

So I'm correct in assuming I should be attacked on site by all NCR, given my history. The map does indeed show me as "Vilified" in all NCR encampments.

 

The problem, as I have stated, is that when I approach them, they act completely normally towards me. Talking to me and trading with me and everything.

 

I'm honestly surprised more people haven't seen this problem. I'm at a loss as for what to do. I'll probably start a new game at some point and just hope people act the way they are supposed to the second time around.

[BlackCompany]

You honestly don't need to be vilified for people to become hostile- by the time you're vilified it's effectively guaranteed.

 

So I'm correct in assuming I should be attacked on site by all NCR, given my history. The map does indeed show me as "Vilified" in all NCR encampments.

 

The problem, as I have stated, is that when I approach them, they act completely normally towards me. Talking to me and trading with me and everything.

 

I'm honestly surprised more people haven't seen this problem. I'm at a loss as for what to do. I'll probably start a new game at some point and just hope people act the way they are supposed to the second time around.

 

 

It may be that you have reached a stage in your quest lines where you are granted amnesty for whatever crimes you commit against a faction. Try talking with the head honcho they want you to talk to. Then go on your spree AFTER talking to him. This should set things to rights. I saw something like this before removing the game and reinstalling with the new patch.

 

Hope this helps.

[Kenji tiger]

im having a strange problem where im liked by the NRC but every time i come across them in the wasteland they shoot on site. I thought it was because of mods but then i remember i was attacked by an NCR trooper before i even had mods installed. so... i dont know what it is. Maybe theres a consol command to make them non hostile?